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Bob Dylan concert review - October 5, 2009, Seattle, WA
PA Times | 10/6/09 | pissant

Posted on 10/06/2009 11:41:42 AM PDT by pissant

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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I met Dylan once at a party and he is completely opaque. He loves that image and says he wants to be known through his music and lyrics. I take him at his word.

I wish more rock stars would take this route.

Jack White seems the most intent on following the template. Taking his wife's last name and tacking III on the end. Sticking to the story that they are brother and sister even though the real back story is known.

Is it any wonder that Jack and Bob get along?
51 posted on 10/06/2009 4:30:25 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: dennisw
The comment you quote by Wexler is harmless. I don't decry anyone's denying what I believe to be true. It's their prerogative.

I did mind the nasty way Wexler referenced Christianity in Schaffer's book. It just doesn't seem to be a two-way street.

52 posted on 10/06/2009 4:38:15 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

My interpretation of Wexler’s “he really believes this shit” is Jerry Wexler is saying it is just a passing phase. And truth be told Dylan has in fact oscillated a few times between Judaism and Christianity

When I see a Jew has become Christian I hope he does return to Judaism. Jerry might also have been thinking that. Wexler should not have used the word “shit”...you can substitute malarkey, jive or nonsense for that. You must remember Wexler was an atheist


53 posted on 10/06/2009 4:46:30 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
I don't mind Wexler saying it (although I doubt he'd take kindly to the comment in reverse.)

It's the fact Schaffer put it in his book in the chapter on Dylan which seems to conclude with Schaffer's (faulty) opinion that Dylan has returned to Orthodox Judaism. I don't think he has, but that's not what Schaffer (and 90% of the music world) wants us to believe.

And truth be told Dylan has in fact oscillated a few times between Judaism and Christianity

His sons were bar mitzvahed long ago. He has a heritage just like we all do that should be honored and cherished. But I haven't seen any evidence he has returned to his Jewish faith. (And all evidence regarding Dylan should begin and end with his music which seems to be the only place he truly reveals himself, by careful intent.) All Christians could benefit from talking Scripture with Jewish rabbis. That doesn't mean they're all converting.

When I see a Jew has become Christian I hope he does return to Judaism.

If you're Jewish, I can understand that. And you spoke those words without rancor or insult. As my Calvinist husband reminds me, Jews don't organize and murder entire populations of men and women.

Jews argue. And I like to argue. 8~)

54 posted on 10/06/2009 4:56:53 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I don’t mind Wexler saying it (although I doubt he’d take kindly to the comment in reverse.) .....................

You could not be more wrong. Wexler called himself a 62 year old Jewish atheist. If you said to him “What do you think of all that Old Testament shit” I think he would have said “It is comforting nonsense to many. I was brought up believing it”


55 posted on 10/06/2009 5:55:33 PM PDT by dennisw (It's not called the Wheel. It's called the Carousel.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
When I see a Jew has become Christian I hope he does return to Judaism.

If you're Jewish, I can understand that. And you spoke those words without rancor or insult. As my Calvinist husband reminds me, Jews don't organize and murder entire populations of men and women.

Yep I'm Jewish
The general attitude among Jews  is "the Jewish population is small so it's a shame to lose one to Christianity because we need all the Jews we can get"

Plus when guys say "shit" they don't have to literally mean "shit". It can mean nonsense or stuff

Guys say "Get your shit out of here" means remove your belongings. It does not necessarily denigrate those belongings

56 posted on 10/06/2009 6:02:46 PM PDT by dennisw (It's not called the Wheel. It's called the Carousel.)
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To: dennisw

lol. I know DOZENS of "62 year old Jewish atheists." Maybe tens of dozens. And they all happily joke among themselves about Judaism. But let a goy make a remark and they bleed just like Shakespeare said.

I don't blame them. I think that's understandable.

57 posted on 10/06/2009 6:07:16 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: dennisw
The general attitude among Jews is "the Jewish population is small so it's a shame to lose one to Christianity because we need all the Jews we can get"

I can understand that. Much of the world conspires to finish what Hitler nearly accomplished. Every Christian and every Jew should be on guard against that evil. It's all around us.

Plus when guys say "shit" they don't have to literally mean "shit". It can mean nonsense or stuff

Having had a father whose every other word was just as you write, I understand your point. I just think if the comment went the other way Jews would likewise take offense. I think that just comes with being in the minority.

58 posted on 10/06/2009 6:11:24 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: pissant

Excellent review pissant. Thanks for the post.


59 posted on 10/06/2009 6:24:57 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

There must be some Jewish tribalism otherwise Jews would have ceased to exist long ago. Plus with only 14 million Jews in the world .....so I think (logically) you act a bit defensive. The big Jewish mistake is being defensive about Christianity when it must be Islam. The Israeli Jews know this better than the hot house flower Jews of America.

This country is so big and wealthy that you can stake out any absurd position and you will find thousands or millions that agree with you. So here you will find the leftist Jews saying the worst things about Israel. I would like to fly them over the West Bank and kick them out of the helicopter


60 posted on 10/06/2009 6:46:39 PM PDT by dennisw (It's not called the Wheel. It's called the Carousel.)
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To: dennisw
The big Jewish mistake is being defensive about Christianity when it must be Islam.

I agree. Christians' roots are Jewish. A Christian might even say a Jew's roots are Christ so there is an inextricable, God-ordained connection in the minds and hearts of most Christians.

The Israeli Jews know this better than the hot house flower Jews of America.

lol. As difficult as these times are, Americans still have it easy compared to much of the world. These days there is a growing list of people I'd like to "fly over the West Bank and kick out of the helicopter."

Taking reservations? 8~)

61 posted on 10/06/2009 7:36:18 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: pissant; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP

Our friend here from Hibbing
said Bob Zimmerman in those days
"would serenade us in the auditorium
playing the piano and it was not what you would expect"

She retired unloading semi trailers
Her son came home from Iraq
And--Are you getting this Mister Hussein?

That poor, poor young man
put a bullet
where it should not go

So, Hey, Mister Teleprompter Man
Play a song for me
Mister Obama Hussein Buh-loke
Mr. mmm mmm mmm
How is it you don't choke

You've been with Professor Brzezinski
And Franklin Davis, too
You just need a little blow
to know just what to do

You've been through all
of Billy Ayer's books
All your slimy friends
are tax cheats, thieves and crooks

You can't get to the Watchtower
it's all Rush Limb-beau's fault
but Mister Soros
got your pay day in his vault

You're a fake, Jake
Y'better read the news
Y'never get by the Bouncer
Unless you pay His dues


62 posted on 10/06/2009 8:56:51 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo; devolve; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; dixiechick2000
[You can't get to the Watchtower - it's all Rush Limb-beau's fault]

Lol, you have the gift of words! Here is a neat interactive site;

DESOLATION ROW

63 posted on 10/07/2009 4:01:45 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: potlatch

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Bump

Dylan keeps on singing


64 posted on 10/07/2009 6:33:42 PM PDT by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . . Barack Hussein Obama mmm mmm mmm . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: devolve

You need to check out my link, it is very neat.
I was never very familiar with Dylan for some reason.


65 posted on 10/07/2009 6:35:27 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: pissant

Well.....the recording of the show finally showed up.
Its a pretty good audience—I made you a copy of it and the 10/4 Moore Theater show.
PM me with the addy and I’ll drop them in the mail.

Peace!


66 posted on 10/22/2009 7:48:07 AM PDT by scott says
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