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Cattle mutilations baffle Colorado ranchers
latimes.com ^ | December 14, 2009 | By DeeDee Correll

Posted on 12/14/2009 9:52:32 PM PST by BlueDragon

Reporting from Denver - Manuel A. Sanchez has ruled out every logical explanation for the fate that has befallen the calves on his ranch in southern Colorado.

Over the past month, he's found four calves dead in a way that he cannot reconcile with anything in his 50 years of raising cattle: eyes and ears missing, tongues and genitals excised in what appeared to be a series of fine cuts.

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TOPICS: Agriculture; Miscellaneous; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: chupacabra; corruptcontractors; cowabunga; mmmmmmmmmbeef; mutilations; ufo
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1 posted on 12/14/2009 9:52:33 PM PST by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon

I’m thinking its other animals on them.


2 posted on 12/14/2009 9:55:48 PM PST by valkyry1
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To: BlueDragon

Must be the aliens released from the failed Russian missle launch.


3 posted on 12/14/2009 9:56:27 PM PST by HerrBlucher (Jail Al Gore and the Climate Frauds!)
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To: BlueDragon

I recall the same thing happening back in the 70s. Strange.


4 posted on 12/14/2009 9:57:18 PM PST by WVNan
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To: HerrBlucher

It’s the Chupacabras...


5 posted on 12/14/2009 9:58:30 PM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: TigersEye

Strange


6 posted on 12/14/2009 9:59:14 PM PST by pandoraou812 (time to dump tar & feathers on DC)
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To: BlueDragon

Andrew Zimmern?


7 posted on 12/14/2009 10:00:24 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: valkyry1

Vultures? If the animals were dead or dying already. Black vultures will attack living newborn calves, but these were six moonths old or so, pretty big.


8 posted on 12/14/2009 10:00:55 PM PST by heartwood
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To: Cyropaedia

see keywords...


9 posted on 12/14/2009 10:02:52 PM PST by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to both variation & deviation)
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To: BlueDragon

George Noory please pick up the red courtesy phone. But seriesly, I’d say it’s cougars IMO.
http://wildlife.state.co.us/Research/Mammal/CougarPumaMountainLion/


10 posted on 12/14/2009 10:03:34 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: BlueDragon
see keywords...

My favorite is "cowabunga".

11 posted on 12/14/2009 10:05:02 PM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: rdl6989
Over the past month, he's found four calves dead in a way that he cannot reconcile with anything in his 50 years of raising cattle: eyes and ears missing, tongues and genitals excised in what appeared to be a series of fine cuts.

But seriesly, I’d say it’s cougars IMO.

But seriesly, I’d say no, IMO.

12 posted on 12/14/2009 10:07:36 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: goseminoles
Well, uh, I was under the impression he likes to leave the gathering and cooking, to others...

Sounds like good work --- if you can get it! 8^-)

He-ee-eeres Andrew


13 posted on 12/14/2009 10:11:04 PM PST by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to both variation & deviation)
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To: BlueDragon

Any Chinese restaurants open in the neighborhood recently?


14 posted on 12/14/2009 10:13:29 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: BlueDragon

I always thought it was rats eating on the carcass.

I heard one report though that they were alive but it was one of the alien theory pushers saying it.


15 posted on 12/14/2009 10:20:17 PM PST by dila813
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To: SIDENET
Somebody posted a link to this site the other day; with the hint, make sure one 'scrolls over' the grazing cow on the home page...

I particularly enjoy the "evidence' photos showing nothing but cowbells remaining. Reminds me of those old joker stories always involving a fence, or a piece of string, etc.,
At the end of the story, the teller would say, "and if you don't believe that, then here's the string" or "right there is the fence", while pointing at it.

16 posted on 12/14/2009 10:22:27 PM PST by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to both variation & deviation)
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To: Quix; JoeProBono; Las Vegas Dave

>>> Ping <<<


17 posted on 12/14/2009 10:22:48 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: mountn man

What else could it be?


18 posted on 12/14/2009 10:23:02 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: rdl6989
I don't know. But a cat isn't going to just eat a tongue. Or just eyes. Or cut offf genitalia. A cats claws are sharp, but would never be described as making fine cuts. They slash and rip.

Ranchers are familiar with cat attacks, and one would be pretty obvious. This has got ranchers puzzled, so I'd say not a cat.

19 posted on 12/14/2009 10:27:56 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: dila813

Nah, 'rats have welfare, or goobermint jobs, or live in mom's basement, or are tenured academics...

wait, you meant rat rats. Oh, now I get it! Sorry, got mixed up there for a sec... Well maybe. But if the cuts are straight and precise, man I don't know. 'Rats most likely wouldn't be so neat about it, and rat rats wouldn't either.

Weird, man. Weird.

20 posted on 12/14/2009 10:29:01 PM PST by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to both variation & deviation)
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To: BlueDragon

I have never seen any of these cuts up close, but I have seen rats cut what looks like laser precise lines in flesh when there is something that is attracting them to it.

Sometimes like a hormone or it is just the part they like.

The tongue they liked and any of the soft spots.

Like, they didn’t go for the ears because they were hard.

They go for the soft juicy flesh.


21 posted on 12/14/2009 10:32:33 PM PST by dila813
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To: BlueDragon

I’ve seen a lot of cattle carcasses that have been worked over by scavengers. Don’t really know that I ever lost any due to predators. Coyotes and vultures usually post-death. The type of cuts he’s describing don’t sound at all like scavengers. They’re always very messy, a lot of ripping and tearing.

I have no idea what it could be


22 posted on 12/14/2009 10:35:08 PM PST by bereanway (Sarah get your gun)
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To: pissant

ok, ok, i know this one's old hat. but it's still pretty funny.

23 posted on 12/14/2009 10:37:00 PM PST by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to both variation & deviation)
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To: Bon mots

24 posted on 12/14/2009 10:43:07 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: bereanway
If the reports are accurate, then I couldn't imagine what it could be, either. UFo's? Chupacabras probably would be as neat about it as a two-yr-old in a highchair, with his oatmeal.

i used to have a bumper sticker that read

fwiw
25 posted on 12/14/2009 10:43:16 PM PST by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to both variation & deviation)
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To: rdl6989

Manbearpig.


26 posted on 12/14/2009 10:48:36 PM PST by gigster
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To: JoeProBono
We gots 'chur cowbell... hangin'
27 posted on 12/14/2009 10:52:32 PM PST by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to both variation & deviation)
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To: BlueDragon

Bush’s fault.


28 posted on 12/14/2009 10:53:01 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Cyropaedia
It’s the Chupacabras...

Actually I have a Chupacabra. Display it in my traveling museum. Got it after a rancher hit it with his pick up trcuk out in Bandera County. TX back in the summer of 2005. Pretty ugly critters...

29 posted on 12/14/2009 10:54:10 PM PST by abigkahuna (Step on up folks and see the "Strange Thing" only a thin dollar, babies free)
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To: BlueDragon

The stories of strangely mutilated cattle are developed and disseminated during each severe economic recession. ...more publications about UFOs during such times, too.

When certain individuals with more power than they should have become afraid, they smother certain truths with lots of lies (wilder conspiracy stories). That tactic tends to have the effect of making those truths untouchable. Well, it has in the past.

Become more self-sufficient, and don’t buy anything that you don’t need. Show disgust and contempt toward corrupt politics. Become anti-political in general, until you see some honest, pro-American candidates with voting records in favor of pro-American trade.


30 posted on 12/14/2009 10:56:14 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: abigkahuna
Traveling museum? Ok, I guess it's tough nowadays to set up Burma Shave-like, "wampum trading post" signs.

Aah, for the good 'ole days...

31 posted on 12/14/2009 10:57:23 PM PST by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to both variation & deviation)
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To: BlueDragon

Maybe they are under a new health care program.


32 posted on 12/14/2009 10:58:39 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: BlueDragon

Wolves excise the the genitals and eat the other soft parts of cattle, BTW. The parts of stories about surgical cuts and the like are probably embellishments for the distraction propaganda used during depressions.


33 posted on 12/14/2009 11:02:33 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: familyop
making those truths untouchable

Why hide truths - what is their gain?
34 posted on 12/14/2009 11:03:18 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: familyop
...and remember to keep your powder dry. Beared repeating! ;^)

More seriously, the distraction thesis may sound far-fetched, but upon reflection has some plausibility.

Would like to follow the newswriter around for a bit, just to see if I could figure out what she's made of. Or if she exists at all. The article did come through AP after all.

35 posted on 12/14/2009 11:05:50 PM PST by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to both variation & deviation)
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To: BlueDragon

She has another article in April about spring water in CO.


36 posted on 12/14/2009 11:11:55 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: dila813

I’ve never seen a rat chew a ‘razor straight line’. What chu’ smokin’ Willis?


37 posted on 12/14/2009 11:15:13 PM PST by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to both variation & deviation)
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To: presently no screen name
It's one of many methods that they hope will serve to prevent much attention to the details of their collaboration in globalism. Handing our manufacturing base to antagonistic, foreign, communist nations is very bad for our national security.

Arming Goldman With Pistols Against Public: Alice Schroeder
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=ahD2WoDAL9h0
[Title and link only, as no content from Bloomberg is allowed to be posted at FR.]


Intelligent Investing Panel
Going Great Guns
Forbes
David Serchuk, 04.23.09
"Thomas:...But, you know, you could always find another job that would pay all right, and pay slightly above minimum wage, could allow you to at least live and have a home in most communities. And I think that's slowly changed."

"Sonders:...we have gone from a couple decades ago being a manufacturing economy to more of a service-oriented, information economy. That has just displaced permanently a lot of workers,..."


...kinda sad and pathetic, really.


38 posted on 12/14/2009 11:15:52 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: presently no screen name

You’re quick.


39 posted on 12/14/2009 11:16:14 PM PST by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to both variation & deviation)
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To: BlueDragon
"More seriously, the distraction thesis may sound far-fetched, but upon reflection has some plausibility."

I should probably have written terms other than the word, distraction. The effort is actually to cause readers and listeners to reject information about how our business, political and academic leaders have betrayed their own Nation.

Carried further, though, embellishments to stories about efforts like those of, say, the Club of Rome, for example, can amount to floods of information that seem like a sort of white noise to listeners and readers. ...or saturations of publications with headlines shouting about celebrities and politicians. ...also the use of neo-Nazi, UFO and chem-trail nut groups to further the rejections of information about real efforts.


40 posted on 12/14/2009 11:25:31 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: presently no screen name
Aw, I left out the good part.

Going Great Guns (Forbes)
"Forbes: I was in Colorado, and I knew people who had 200, 300 guns. And they'd stash them in various hidden places around their compound. This wasn't all that uncommon out west."

Most of us middle/working class men don't collect "200, 300 guns" for the sole purpose of family security. What are they going to do with hundreds of firearms each, obviously for personal defense--arm their foreign slaves (illegals) to defend them against the hordes of unemployed zombies? Many of us have and use firearms. We even prepare for disasters, try to become more independent, and so on. But, IMO, some of our wealthiest, most politically correct leaders have become more than a little kooky and unrealistic.


41 posted on 12/14/2009 11:36:31 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: JoeProBono

42 posted on 12/14/2009 11:44:49 PM PST by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to both variation & deviation)
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To: BlueDragon
On the other hand it may be even simpler: Washington County (Arkansas) Sheriff's Department placed a dead cow in a field and had observers watch what happened over the next 48 hours. When they reported that bloating led to incision-like tears in the skin and that blowflies and maggots had cleaned out the soft tissue so that the carcass looked exactly like those that had been attributed to aliens or satanic cultists, they were generally ignored by the community of true believers. http://www.skepdic.com/cattle.html
43 posted on 12/14/2009 11:50:36 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: rdl6989

Oops http://www.skepdic.com/cattle.html


44 posted on 12/14/2009 11:51:19 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: familyop

I read the article - interesting. Thanks. BHO gets elected, gun arms sales climb!


45 posted on 12/14/2009 11:57:50 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: BlueDragon

That’s a good idea on your part—to look for more work by such writers.


46 posted on 12/15/2009 12:00:10 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: BlueDragon

I just jumped on YOUR idea. LOL!


47 posted on 12/15/2009 12:02:09 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: valkyry1
I’m thinking its other animals on them.

This rancher has been raising cattle for 50 years. Don't you think he would recognize normal predation if he saw it?

From the article:

"...he's found four calves dead in a way that he cannot reconcile with anything in his 50 years of raising cattle: eyes and ears missing, tongues and genitals excised in what appeared to be a series of fine cuts.

Mountain lions, bears or coyotes would leave messier marks, he said. And Sanchez found no tire tracks or footprints that would suggest a human invader -- nor even bloodstains he'd expect to find around the carcasses if someone had butchered them."

I'm not advancing any theories as to who or what did this, but it's definitely not four-legged critters chowing down.

48 posted on 12/15/2009 12:09:32 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: BlueDragon

It’s aliens.


49 posted on 12/15/2009 12:10:17 AM PST by BigCinBigD (")
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To: presently no screen name

You’re welcome. And yes, Obama and the Democrats getting into office probably contributed more than anything else to the trend toward fear of more regulations, stocking-up on ammunition for some and hoarding for others. The outrageous prices are tough for rural people except for those of us who handload. Our more immediate concerns are for livestock, pets and the like. Over the past couple of decades, animal predator/pest populations have really grown.


50 posted on 12/15/2009 12:14:16 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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