Skip to comments.Circle of friends The importance of other people in our preparedness plans
Posted on 12/17/2009 6:58:05 PM PST by The Comedian
Hardcore survivalists cherish what I call the "George Romero Scenario." It goes like this: The proverbial poop has hit the propeller. Cities collapse into chaos. But we, the prepared, are...well, we're prepared. We hunker in our rural bunkers, clutching our Super Whiz-Whacker 3000 combat arms, eagle-eyed and ready for any eventuality. We boldly fend off wave after ravenous wave of starving city folk who stagger at us like unstoppable zombies in a Romero horror flick. These zombies crave not our living flesh, but our six-gallon, mylar-lined superpails of dried lentils, our root cellars full of last year's carrots, and our genuine, federally issued Meals Ready to Eat.
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Preparedness is such a daunting task it’s hard to figure where to begin.
The liberal mentality in a survival situation...
Defense, water, food, heat, first aid, commo...
Ive got enough weapons to fight a small civil war...
Need more 223 and more 38 special ammo..got plenty of 9mm and 7.62x39
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You need buddies that can also shoot...
Very informative, and funny.
Dig here for a start:
Remember: Beans, band-aids, and bullets. In that order.
Here in NYC, if TSHTF a lot of people are gonna be screwed and defenseless and hungry and scared. Water will be at an absolute premium. Good luck with waste disposal.
Gotta come to grips with the fact that most of the city dwellers will simply kill each other off, and will not have the wherewithal to seek out the outlying survivalists.
Cities are essentially self-filling mortuaries.
We’ve actually got a few of those six-gallon pails stashed away. And our 72 hour kits are now staged and ready. Even at work, I’m never more than a few minutes from mine.
In our neck of the woods, it’s always been a bad idea for strangers to come up someone’s driveway unannounced. When the SHTF, it’ll be positively suicidal.
Preparedness should match where you live.
Where I live, if we have a meltdown, water will be better than gold.
I’m putting in a well and I’ll barter water for whatever I need.
I’m also laying in a supply of whiskey. I don’t drink, but it has a long shelf life and will work well as a trade good.
Think along the lines of what you can put together that will be in demand.
the reason why i so desparately want to be able to leave...i miss the country terribly
I do need that. Ive got a dad a cousin and one of our employees who would form the Boone County Irregulars.
People tend to assume scenarios of human wave attacks of zombies. But what if the scenario involves one or a few zombies trying to hit you at random times over a period of months? In other words, not the end of the world, but a period of hard times that results in zombies being generated steadily over a long period?
we have two deep wells..Id just need a good pump to get it out if the electricity went out.
Wonder what we would need for that?
And I concur about the booze. People will always want hooch.
I’ll be the guy who pops a flare at the end of your driveway and then stands there with his hands in the air. LOL
Brilliant Claire, one of your best. And badly needed.
(How did you know what was etched on my muzzle break?)
I have been dabbling with the idea of making my own MREs. There are several instructive links I have found.
There is no rioting, no one rebels, hungry beaten down people don't do that kind of stuff. Life goes on, but now it is a reduced life, money for food and clothes takes priority.
The way to prepare is to prepare financially. Wasting money on guns or any of the survival stuff is worse than stupid. Getting a foreign source of income is important.
Then you work on the ones with leadership potential. Next thing you know you've got a cadre. It takes a while, but it's worth it.
I’m doing research for my next book, studying Yugoslavia 1990s, and Beirut 1980s.
If you want a vivid picture of what “failure to cooperate” can lead to, go to Youtube, and just use search words “Sarajevo 1992 sniper.”
After a while looking at video clips of that civil war, it makes you REALLY want to think about how to get along.
You really don’t want to live next to a place called, “Sniper Alley.”
add a little honey and you have a decent cough syrup for colds..
A little shot of the hair of the dog could help one deal with a minor SHTF situation.
We are looking to next spring to start our wine making expedition from a cabelas kit. If our grapes and blueberries come through next year we’ll have the fruit for the wine too..
For some reason I’ve always wanted to make wine.
You bet. Damn right. I also still jog, and it gets me around the ‘hood, eyeballing my male neighbors of a certain ex-military bearing, waving, giving the old hooyah. We kind of know who’s “reliable.” We can put down a field of fire, maybe. I hope we do as well at getting along.
At least, in your own subdivision. You HAVE to be tight. But the problem comes in (historically) when the local/regional/national militia/army rolls in, with orders or an inclination toward ethnic cleansing. And they don’t know or love your neighbors of the wrong background. Nothing breaks up cozy neighborhood camraderie like being ordered to shoot a neighbor, or else you will be shot as a traitor/coward.
Not to mention what happens to your wives and daughters, if the “other” militia/army rolls in.
Cities get REAL ugly when cooperation breaks down and old hatreds flare. There ain’t enough Black Hills match boattails in the world to see you through a decade living along “sniper alley.”
Ammo and No-Doz.
Im working on my debt. Ill be free of credit cards by March at the latest..my other debt is zero. My car is long paid off and so it the house.
When the credit cards are paid off Ill feel much freer.
the thing is, a dozen country boys with hunting rifles and good boots wouldnt make it easy for a bunch of weekend warriors.
Sooner or later youde see people on street corners in the country wearing Canadian army boots.
That's one way to look at it. Another way is to consciously take notes one of what you use and how much, and just incrementally prepare as you are able.
3. Escape plan (if you're in the city)
4. Medicine and hygine items
etc. etc. etc.
You know, that sort of thing.
Prayer, first and foremost, for inspiration as to what you'll need in your particular situation.
And secondly, remind yourself that you'll be fine. This isn't a fear thing. It's a self-empowerment thing.
OK, I was following you right up until you said we don’t need guns or “survival stuff,” what we really need is A FOREIGN SOURCE OF INCOME?........
I am a cynic, and think that most people will lie down and take whatever misery is forced on them. BUT, I think more people in the United States will be willing to get creative and resist than in countries with cultures of submission. What was that quote about “a rifle behind every blade of grass.” That isn’t so in our cities, but it sure IS so in flyover country.
Secondly, a foreign source of income is likely to be less than useless in a serious meltdown. Doesn’t it make more sense to have a piece of land on which you can find, grow and hunt what you need to eat? They are available all over the country for practically nothing. I have one. Beats the heck out of a foreign source of income! LOL!
Precisely. When you are in debt you are a slave.
Youtube search Beirut and Sarajevo. See it in dying color.
I live at my bug out site...so Im most of the way there..
And prayer is the only thing keeping me going these days.
I just want to be able to get water and have enough power to run a shower and small fridge if the electric goes out for any period of time.
In the past years, every time a deer broke wind, the power went out for 2-4 days. I discovered that the main comfort factor is being able to have a drink of water, wash your hands and go to the bathroom.
If you have that, the other things arent so daunting..
The point that I am trying to make is that there won't be an uprising. Who are we going to 'uprise' against? Are you going to shoot the local Sheriff? He will be in the same boat as us, no paycheck and no savings. The country will simply be bankrupt.
Secondly, a foreign source of income is likely to be less than useless in a serious meltdown. Doesnt it make more sense to have a piece of land on which you can find, grow and hunt what you need to eat? They are available all over the country for practically nothing. I have one. Beats the heck out of a foreign source of income! LOL!
Are you going to become a farmer? Having access to a real currency could make you comparatively wealthy. I am just trying to apply lessons that people from those other collapsed countries learned the hard way.
I discovered my priorities during an ice storm when we were without power for 8 days and couldn’t get out because the road was blocked. In this order (1) hot coffee (2) hot shower (3) everything else.
My new house is equipped to provide both without electricity. Propane tankless water heater with a gravity-fed tank when the electricity goes out to the well pump. Hand pump to replenish tank from rain-fed cistern. Works great.
Am currently all set for the up-coming winter ice-storm with a kerosene space heater, butane stove, and water tank with siphon. This won’t provide a hot shower (I’m not moved into my new house yet), but if you have all the other stuff having dirty hair isn’t that bad.
our family harvested seven deer this past two weeks on this property.
three bucks, four does.
One of the relatives is even working on his skill with a bow and arrow and a muzzleloader. I could never do anything with a bow except lose expensive arrows.
I will conquer my 50 cal hawken this year..
As far as some out of the area militia rolling in, well we've got some contingency plans for those folks. They'll find easier pickings someplace else.
We also don't have a whole lot of 'ethnic' to 'cleanse' around here. And anybody ordering anyone to shoot a neighbor is going to find themselves on their back with a couple of smoking holes in their chest wondering what the hell just happened.
The Mrs. and I have been working on our little group for almost a decade now. I'm not dumb enough to imagine it's perfect, but it'll hold for a while. Long enough for us to get our own private Plan B into operation.
Plan B is mostly getting the hell out of Dodge. LOL So in the last 10 years or so we've put together a little cadre of 10 families all of whom have put back what we call the "Basic Load". That list is a bit long to go into here. Maybe I'll post it someday.
It seems like a lot but it's really not too difficult to put together over the span of a couple of years.
The result is that we can put 20 people on the street all with a common set of weapons, ammo, aid kits, food, fuel, comm gear, etc to last us a couple of months without too much trouble.
We're also fortunate in that we all live on the high ground overlooking the major four lanes going through the area. When we inspected our roofs we spent a little extra time glassing things out, marking routes and points on maps, that sort of thing.
If we really have to deal with Mutant Zombie Bikers we'll make 'em pay for every yard, believe me.
Like I said, it ain't perfect but it's a damn good start and we work on it.
Claires got some good advice here. Other Freepers of like mind would do well to heed it.
Best to you my friend.
I see what you’re saying, but in my opinion, having everything you need for food, clothing and shelter makes you “relatively wealthy” no matter what. You don’t have to become a farmer to raise enough to eat — it doesn’t take that much time. I guess I’m just not that into being plugged into a system — I would rather just fend for myself. But I realize not everyone thinks that way.
Oh, and since you mention it, there are plenty of good ol’ boys in this area who would just LOVE an excuse to shoot the law, but I live in a fairly lawless part of the country. Again, LOL!