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Winged migration (Lockheed Constellation EC121)
Helena Independent ^ | December 11, 2009 | ANGELA BRANDT

Posted on 12/17/2009 8:45:12 PM PST by This_far

Nearly 30 years ago, a Lockheed Constellation flew to its current location at a Helena college. If all goes as planned, the 1958 plane will do the same to its new home at an Oregon museum next year.

After mechanics restore the plane, it will be flown to Evergreen Aviation and Space Museum in McMinnville, Ore., where it will be on display alongside the famed Spruce Goose, the wood-resin plane billionaire Howard Hughes developed for use in World War II but which never lifted off past its initial prototype.

“What an awesome looking machine,” University of Montana-Helena College of Technology Dean Daniel Bingham said of the Constellation while watching the process of moving it from the college to the Helena Regional Airport. “It’sgoing to a really great home.”

(Excerpt) Read more at helenair.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: connie; helenamt
Have driven past this plane with its nose against the fence many times and wondered what it was.

More info here, second paragraph... http://www.conniesurvivors.com/1-connie_news.htm

1 posted on 12/17/2009 8:45:12 PM PST by This_far
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To: This_far
Have driven past this plane with its nose against the fence many times and wondered what it was.

You have to see the tail. In its day it was the iconic airliner. Mad Magazine did a bit on "updated" constellation names, and Cygnus the Swan became Constellation the Constellation ... very witty.

2 posted on 12/17/2009 8:53:22 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew
You have to see the tail.

I wish I had! Never thought to stop and walk back to the pad. For it's size, black nose and lack of activity, I thought it might have been a T33.

You're right though about the tail, would have known right away even though I didn't know of the 'Baby Connies'.

3 posted on 12/17/2009 9:03:10 PM PST by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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To: This_far

I put in many hours on Connies during the Vietnam War. We had EC 121’s, electronic countermeasures, with a bunch of spooks on board. It was not pressurized so rarely went above 12,000 feet but it was very, very comfortable to fly on. We had a galley with a cook, best food I ate in VN. Our missions were 8 1/2 hours each and I flew nearly every day out of Danang Air Base. P-3’s replaced the Connies but were a lousy replacement from a comfort point of view.


4 posted on 12/17/2009 9:06:48 PM PST by Rembrandt
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To: This_far
Connie


5 posted on 12/17/2009 9:07:39 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (<I>)
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To: This_far

It will make the trip just fine; it was built when America was still American.


6 posted on 12/17/2009 9:09:47 PM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: This_far
My first plane ride - San Francisco to Denver to Kansas City aboard one of these beautiful aircraft. I'm glad to know they're still around.
7 posted on 12/17/2009 9:17:26 PM PST by stormer
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To: This_far
You have to see the tail. I wish I had!

It takes one hell of a man to handle three pieces of tail at once.---Attributed to an unknown Connie pilot, 1996 . . .

8 posted on 12/17/2009 9:23:10 PM PST by BluesDuke (A stitch in time saves a surgeon from a malpractise suit.)
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To: Rembrandt

We used to listen for your Mig calls on 243.0

Thanks for being there.

Danang 1965


9 posted on 12/17/2009 11:52:56 PM PST by Former War Criminal (My senior Senator (who served in Vietnam) said so.)
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To: This_far

When I returned stateside from Japan and was separated from active duty in the Regular Army in July 1961, I flew home to Pennsyltucky from Oakland, CA in a Super-G Constellation. In its day, a very fine aircraft. One of my favorites, however, for aesthetic external beauty and for flight comfort is the Lockheed
L-1011 wide body.

The new Boeing 787 Dreamliner that debutted on Tuesday is a sweet-looking aircraft, as well.


10 posted on 12/17/2009 11:58:52 PM PST by Tucker39 (I Tim. 1:15b " .....Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.")
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To: stormer
My first plane ride - San Francisco to Denver to Kansas City aboard one of these beautiful aircraft. I'm glad to know they're still around.

I too am glad to know that this bird has been preserved (probably more to the dry climate here).

Sad that no flights will be available (like the Warbird tours).

11 posted on 12/17/2009 11:59:58 PM PST by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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To: Tucker39

Saw the Dreamliner landing... DAMM what a lot of wing flex!
(That’s been covered in other threads)

Not sure how it compares to my first time seeing the ground through the control access slots in the floor of a Piper Cub though.


12 posted on 12/18/2009 12:16:23 AM PST by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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To: Rembrandt; BIGLOOK

I was there as well from April 68 to December 68. I was one of the spooks from NCS Philippines Det Bravo Danang. I flew BL-23 and BL26 the most. One of the A3’s as well. Don’t remember the tail nr. I think BL-23 was the one shot down over Korea right after I left. Were you with VQ1 Atsugi?


13 posted on 12/18/2009 6:06:34 AM PST by CTOCS (...and man will live forever more, because of Christmas Day.....)
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To: Tucker39

First time I flew in one was January 1960 from Florida to MCRD San Diego for Sea School. I was comfortably asleep - until we made the approach to the San Diego airport in downtown. Straight down with a flair at the last minute. Wow!


14 posted on 12/18/2009 10:18:33 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: CTOCS; Rembrandt


It was PR-21 that was shot down by the KORCOMS over the Sea of Japan in 1969 and PR-26 was lost when it crashed on landing at DaNang.

Rembrandt and I were both I-Beats, also from San Miguel but later, when my 18 months were up, I got my PCS right back to Det Bravo, DaNang.

Thanks for the ping, Chief! And I appreciate that you kept the racket down this time.

(That's a photo of PR-22, repainted and fitted with wing tanks, most likely out of Atsugi for patroling the friendly skies over the Sea of Japan.)
15 posted on 12/18/2009 6:14:29 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: This_far

The Constellation has to be one of the best looking airplanes ever built. Just gorgeous lines and curves.

That museum in McMinnville is really shaping up as something pretty spectacular. It’s becoming like the Smithsonian of the West.


16 posted on 12/18/2009 6:20:59 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: BIGLOOK

tks for the pic. Good looking bird when she’s got fresh makeup on. Don’t remember the wing tanks. Don’t see why they need them. We stayed up almost 17 hrs once when we had to bug out to Korat, Thailand. The only thing different about that flight I remember was they filled the belly tanks and we could not smoke until they were empty.


17 posted on 12/18/2009 9:32:25 PM PST by CTOCS (...and man will live forever more, because of Christmas Day.....)
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To: Ramius

Agree about the Connie. Of course the tri tail was obvious in all of the advertisements that the airlines had ‘back when’.

I traveled the country a couple years back without a destination. Air museums were one of things that I did try to visit as I saw them either on a map or road sign. Most were out of the way, small, privately run with curious and sometimes one of kind displays.

Further back, I’d seen the Spruce Goose in Long Beach (& Queen Mary). Seems that I’ll have to make plans to visit the McMinnville museum per your post. (I haven’t been to the Smithsonian AM, but did spend three days at the Air Force Museum in Dayton (which wasn’t long enough).


18 posted on 12/19/2009 6:54:52 PM PST by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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