3,000 RUSSIANS DIE AS FINNS BEAT OFF KARELIAN ATTACKS (12/30/39)

Microfiche-New York Times archives, Cabrillo College Library | 12/30/39 | K.J. Eskelund, Raymond Daniell, P.J. Philip

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[Homer_J_Simpson]

Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime”.)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile.

[Homer_J_Simpson]

[Homer_J_Simpson]

3,000 Russians Die as Finns Beat Off Karelian Attacks – 2-3
The International Situation – 3
Finns Say Russians Bomb Own Troops – 4
Roosevelt Widens Bid to Churchmen – 5
Finns Assert Reds Urged an Armistice – 5
Hoover Asks Respite For Finland on Debt – 5
Germans Describe Defeat in Air Fight – 6
600 German Exiles Join French Foreign Legion – 6
British Battleship Is Torpedoed; Reaches Port With Four Missing – 7-8
Merchant Ships Sunk in War – 8
Students Reject Attack on Soviet – 8
British Trawler Day’s War Victim – 9
Europe Must Unite, Daladier Asserts – 10
Silver Shirt Group Gets Prison Term – 10
Incidents in European Conflict – 11
Finnish Relief Fund Expands Quarters – 11

[ColdSteelTalon]

Funny how the students voted not to condemn Russia as the aggressor with Finland.

[Vanders9]

The “winter war” is one of the most heroic and little known conflicts of 39/40. How the finns held them off for so long is mind boggling.

[Homer_J_Simpson]

I just noticed a familiar name in that article.

Joseph Lash of New York, executive director of the union, and Molly Yard, Chicago, national chairman, both urged passage of the amendment.

National Association of Gals press rellease, 9/21/05

[Bringbackthedraft]

The “winter war” is one of the most heroic and little known conflicts of 39/40. .......................... Not if you are Finnish or Russian. I had an Uncle through marriage who was in it, he didn’t hold back describing how they left the Russians after the battles.

[Brugmansian]

The American Finnish Workers Federation, a adjunct of the Communist Party USA, had many members emigrate from America to the Karelian peninsula. They encouraged other lefties to go as well. Many were executed by Stalin and are buried in a mass grave at Sandamokh.

[Vanders9]

Not if you are finnish Im sure. I was referring to the rest of the world. Its a conflict that deserves more recognition.

[9422WMR]

Yes, and the students are from Madison WI!
Still a bastion of liberal stupidity. It is amazing how the cold weather in Wisconsin causes liberal brain damage. A good friend once described their mental problem as being caused by oxygen deprevation during youth caused by indoor heaters.
How else to explain the continued stupidity from the North Land!!!!

[sticker]

What's so funny, at that time the only thing that mattered to the left was the advancement of communism. They even were against aid to Britain and France, until hitler invaded the ussr. Now they have to side with the islamists, at least until putin brings back the soviet union

[PzLdr]

I see Harvard Law professor James Landis, working for the Feds, finds Harry Bridges isn’t a communist,which Bridges, in fact, was [and an agent to boot]; proving that EVEN 70 years ago, a Harvard trained gov’t gnome couldn’t spot a communist.

And, God bless the university system in Wisconsin. Turning out Red students as early as 1939.

[BroJoeK]

"It is amazing how the cold weather in Wisconsin causes liberal brain damage."

I will be in Wisconsin this weekend and next -- and the forecast is for below zero temperatures. So, if I start babbling liberal nonsense here, can I suppose everyone will understand why? ;-)

Actually, Wisconsiners I know are all independent and tough as nails. So maybe something happens when they get into their college classrooms -- as you said, possibly windows closed too tight, air gets stale, carbon monoxide builds up? Who knows... ;-)

[magslinger]

The Finns did have a lot of Russian help. Stalins purges and see the headline above "Finns Say Russians Bomb Own Troops" to name just two factors.

The second may be a result of the first. It takes time to make a good artillery officer. A good artillery officer being defined as one who does not shell his own troops unintentionally.

[sharkhawk]

I’m really surprised Molly Yard was on the right side of the issue. Most Reds at the time still considered Stalin as kindly old Uncle Joe. Also, even though the convention was held in Madison it appears to have been a national meeting of students, but I do believe that Madison did elect a commie as mayor around that time, obviously helped by the student population.

[CougarGA7]

Day 31 of the Winter War, December 30, 1939

The Finnish force at Hulkonniemi captures large amounts of enemy materiel, including 25 artillery pieces, 11 tanks, 150 lorries and 250 horses.
Photo: SA-KUVA

Soviet 163rd Division loses 6,500 men

• Northern Finland: Colonel Siilasvuo is ordered to destroy the Russian 44th Division grouped along the Raate road. Finnish troops continue to pursue the retreating enemy across the frozen Lake Kianta.

• The enemy's 163rd Division loses around 6,500 men, approximately 35% of its strength.

• The Finnish force at Hulkonniemi captures large amounts of enemy materiel, including 25 artillery pieces, 11 tanks, 150 lorries and 250 horses.

• Finnish losses are 350 dead and 600 wounded.

• Lake Ladoga: Finnish troops repel an exploratory offensive by the enemy across the newly-frozen Lake Ladoga.

[abb]

http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1939/dec39/f30dec39.htm

Chinese lose air battle to Japanese
Saturday, December 30, 1939 www.onwar.com

In China... The revived Nationalist Chinese air force suffers a crushing defeat over Liuchow (Lanchow). Forty fighters challenge 13 Japanese Type-96 aircraft. In the ensuing air battle 14 of the Chinese planes are shot down without a Japanese loss.

In Hanoi... A breakaway group of Chinese Nationalists led by the former foreign minister of the Kuomintang, Wang Chingwei, signs an agreement with Japanese representatives to set up a rival Nationalist government under Japanese protection. Wang Chingwei is Tokyo-educated and was the main rival to Chiang Kai-shek for the leadership of the Kuomintang. Since the loss of Wuhan, he has become convinced that the war against Japan cannot be won.
In the Winter War... Finnish offensives against the Soviet 8th and 9th Armies continue. General Stern, formerly in command of the Soviet Far Eastern Army, is assigned to direct operations north of Lake Ladoga. Some 60 bombs are dropped by Soviet aircraft on Hango.

On the Western Front... Allied and German patrols are active between Moselle and Saar, despite intense cold.

[abb]

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.etherington/month/thismonth/30.htm

December 30th, 1939

UNITED KINGDOM: Corvette HMS Marguerite laid down. (Dave Shiraw)
FINLAND: The Soviet leadership decides to re-evaluate the war-effort against Finland. All attacks are to cease for the time. (Mikko Härmeinen)

FRENCH INDOCHINA: Hanoi: A breakway group of Chinese Nationalists led by the Kuomintang’s ex foreign minister, Wang Chingwei, appears to have finalised agreement with Japan to set up a rival Nationalist government under Japanese protection. The Tokyo educated Wang Chingwei, once Chiang Kai-shek’s main rival for the Kuomintang leadership, fled to Hanoi a year ago to start a peace movement in response to Japan’s call for a “new order in Asia”. Since the loss of Wuhan he has become convinced that the war against Japan was unwinnable.

U.S.A.: An order for ten modified North American NA-50A fighters is received from the government of Siam. (Craig Paffhausen)

[CougarGA7]

The universities were great recruiting grounds for communists...still are I think. Remember that in the early 30s the Ring of Five was recruited out of Cambridge University in the UK.

[abb]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Student_Federation_of_America
National Student Federation of America