Posted on 01/13/2010 1:08:11 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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Berg vs Orly? Was chief wala wala from African Press International the judge? LOL
Phil Berg calls Lucas Smith to testify against Orly Taitz in Rivernider vs US Bank
[Thanks, Seizethecarp.]
Editor Korir to you, sir. (And that "whitey tape" will be released any day now, really -- count on it, honest.)
In the next 24hrs!
Ping to an Orly Taitz whack-a-mole thread.
The love spat between Orly and Lincoln may make for some interesting court drama overtime.
The link goes to the Lucas Smith site but I could not locate the article in order to be able to read the rest of it.
Fair to Orly or not, Judge Carter admonished Orly Taitz in his ruling clearly based in part on Smith's affidavit alleging wrongdoing by Taitz. Carter was fully aware that Smith had also placed before the court the Kenya BC. Carter did not consider Smith's well-publicized background and claims about the BC to have impeached him as a witness.
A second federal court validation of Smith, by extension, can only enhance the credibility of Lucas Smith's representations regarding how he came to acquire Obama’s Kenya BC.
If Smith was actually a fraudster, the last and most foolish thing he would be expected to do would be to expose himself to a felony charge of making false statements or giving false testimony in federal court.
Yes, stranger things have happened, but I have read Smith's affidavits, viewed his videos, and read his blog in which he defends the authenticity of the Kenya BC and I have found him to appear to be extremely careful of what he says about it.
If Taitz is found to have lied in this case based on the preponderance of the evidence, including Smith's testimony, it will be the second federal court where her honesty has been called into question. A loss in this case by Taitz would seem to threaten her CA Bar membership even more than it is threatened already.
Any shortcomings of Orly Taitz have no bearing on what the original HI vital records of Obama show, whether or not Obama was actually born in Kenya, or whether SCOTUS would find him to be an NBC despite having a Kenyan national as his father. It will fall to others to try to litigate these matters.
He is a convicted FELON. Iowa is just the tip of the iceberg.
People used to say Ted Bundy was such a nice young man,.
Convicted felons give testimony in court that is deemed credible by the triers of fact every day. Of course, Smith deserves some extra scrutiny, and his BC has certainly received that, as would any such serious claim about presidential eligibility regardless of the source.
Whether Smith is a convicted felon has no bearing on the authenticity of the BC which, under the FRE, can only ultimately be authenticated by Kenyan officials.
I believe this can only happen if/when the protection Obama is getting in both the US and Kenya is lifted.
Just meant as a friendly word of caution
Oh that's the BC with the administrator's name misspelled on the stamp and signature, isn't it?
What a cast of characters! It’s all way too convoluted for me. Isn’t Taitz suing Berg, or vice versa?
It bothers me that they have, among them, made their act into a three-ring circus when there is a serious underlying Constitutional question with which they have come to be identified. Their antics distract from that serious question and cast those who DO recognize a Constitutional issue as being as nutty as they are. We can only hope that some of the saner attorneys who have had quieter cases that focus on the legal issues will eventually prevail.
Despite the relentless hectoring of Great Kim aka Mik Taerg and others reading from the anti-birther script claiming a misspelling, I saw no convincing evidence of misspelling when I looked into it. I believe even Kim had to admit to InspectorSmith on his YouTube site that his claims of a misspelling were wrong when Smith backed Kim into a corner. I'm not going back over it, absent new evidence.
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