SHOW UP!!!!!!
Posted on 02/08/2010 10:07:18 PM PST by libh8er
You often hear women, especially feminists and sluts, complaining about how it’s such an unfair double standard that men are called studs when they sleep around, yet women are called sluts. It’s really not a double standard though, because both scenarios are pretty different in terms of circumstances and consequences. I can think of at least three crucial differences.
First, sleeping around is easier for women. Regardless of how you feel about promiscuity, we can all agree that a guy who manages to rack up a lot of sexual partners has to have some skills. It’s challenging for men to rack up partners, even for men with low standards. It requires a certain amount of social intelligence, interpersonal skills, persistence, thick skin, and plain old dumb luck. For women to rack up a lot of partners, however, it pretty much only requires a vagina and a pulse. So a man whoring it up and a woman whoring it up are hardly the same thing because for a woman to get a lot of partners is absolutely no challenge, hence no one respects it. It’s just viewed as a lack of self-discipline when women indulge in lots of sex partners because they can get new ones whenever they want. When men get lots of sex partners, it’s respected more because getting lots of sex partners, for men, is a challenge. This is just human nature: people gain respect for those who accomplish challenging feats while they consider those who overindulge in easily obtained vices as weak or flawed.
Second, women do more harm by sleeping around than men do. Say a man sleeps around with a bunch of different women. He is definitely doing harm to these women if he pretends to be monogamous while sleeping around with these multiple partners. He may cause them emotional pain by his promiscuity. He may cause unwanted pregnancy. He may spread venereal diseases. When women sleep around, however, they can cause not only these same ill effects but one additional crucial ill effect: the risk of unknown parentage. If one guy sleeps around with five women, each of whom is monogamous to him, and they all get pregnant, it’s a safe bet as to who the father is. If one woman sleeps around with five men and gets pregnant, it could be anybody’s baby. And if a man is tricked into raising a baby that isn’t his, he is basically investing his time, money, estate and property to provide for a child that is not carrying on his DNA into the next generations, which is a costly mistake from an evolutionary standpoint. Our two basic primal drives are to survive and to reproduce, and promiscuous women traditionally make it hard for a man to know for sure whether he is truly reproducing or simply raising another man’s child. Men stand a lot more to lose from promiscuous women than the other way around. And it’s no picnic for the child to not know who his real father is either. And it’s a mess for the women carrying on the deception as well. Or just look at any random episode of the Maury show if you don’t believe me. Considering that the DNA test and the birth control pill had not existed for most of human history, meaning that there were no reliable ways to prevent pregnancy or prove parentage, society for many centuries had a vested interest in preventing promiscuity among women and society accomplished this by creating the slut stigma. And even though the creation of birth control and DNA tests have made this less of a risk than the past, longstanding traditions and customs are not easy for society to break.
Third, men have evolutionary reasons to be programmed to sleep around. A lot of women roll their eyes when they hear that men are “hard-wired” to sleep around. But from an evolutionary standpoint, it makes total sense. If the two primal drives of humans are to survive and to reproduce, nothing leads to maximum reproduction like one man sleeping with multiple women. If one women slept with many men, in a nine month period, she would still only get pregnant just once. Nine months of rampant promiscuity would give the same result as nine months of highly sexed monogamy: one pregnancy. Now if one man sleeps with many women, you can get many pregnancies. The more women he sleeps with, the more pregnancies. So from an evolutionary standpoint, there are concrete advantages to men sleeping around with multiple partners rather than women.
These three reasons are probably why the longstanding tradition came about of men being rewarded for multiple partners while women get socially punished for similar promiscuity. Of course all this is gradually changing, but we’re up against centuries of tradition here, so don’t expect any dramatic reversals or anything.
Now a lot of people are going to read all this and dismissively think Oh this guy is just being a typical man and trying to justify every man’s dream: cheating and polygamy. But believe it or not, I don’t really think male polygamy is all it’s cracked up to be. Despite what most people assume, polygamy actually may benefit women more than men. Most dudes think a society of widespread polygamy (specifically polygyny, where one man can have several women) would just be a utopia of every guy sleeping with every woman under the sun. Some economists think otherwise though. The basic argument is that in a world where po
lygamy was acceptable, most of the women would be hoarded by the most successful men. As explained in this Psychology Today article:
The history of western civilization aside, humans are naturally polygamous. Polyandry (a marriage of one woman to many men) is very rare, but polygyny (the marriage of one man to many women) is widely practiced in human societies, even though Judeo-Christian traditions hold that monogamy is the only natural form of marriage…..Relative to monogamy, polygyny creates greater fitness variance (the distance between the “winners” and the “losers” in the reproductive game) among males than among females because it allows a few males to monopolize all the females in the group. The greater fitness variance among males creates greater pressure for men to compete with each other for mates. Only big and tall males can win mating opportunities. Among pair-bonding species like humans, in which males and females stay together to raise their children, females also prefer to mate with big and tall males because they can provide better physical protection against predators and other males.
In societies where rich men are much richer than poor men, women (and their children) are better off sharing the few wealthy men; one-half, one-quarter, or even one-tenth of a wealthy man is still better than an entire poor man. As George Bernard Shaw puts it, “The maternal instinct leads a woman to prefer a tenth share in a first-rate man to the exclusive possession of a third-rate one.” Despite the fact that humans are naturally polygynous, most industrial societies are monogamous because men tend to be more or less equal in their resources compared with their ancestors in medieval times. (Inequality tends to increase as society advances in complexity from hunter-gatherer to advanced agrarian societies. Industrialization tends to decrease the level of inequality.)
When there is resource inequality among men?the case in every human society?most women benefit from polygyny: women can share a wealthy man. Under monogamy, they are stuck with marrying a poorer man.
The only exceptions are extremely desirable women. Under monogamy, they can monopolize the wealthiest men; under polygyny, they must share the men with other, less desirable women. However, the situation is exactly opposite for men. Monogamy guarantees that every man can find a wife. True, less desirable men can marry only less desirable women, but that’s much better than not marrying anyone at all.
Men in monogamous societies imagine they would be better off under polygyny. What they don’t realize is that, for most men who are not extremely desirable, polygyny means no wife at all, or, if they are lucky, a wife who is much less desirable than one they could get under monogamy.
So basically, women complain about how men are allowed to sleep around and they aren’t. Meanwhile men wish polygamy had widespread acceptance. And the truth may actually be that male polygamy benefits the average women more than the average man. Who’da thunk?
oh pure BS
we don;t need to label women to feel superior
any man who loves women doesn’t need to feel superior....we are superior in some ways but not in others...but that is for a purpse..God’s....what we really need is to feel needed or better yet wanted
u married son?
women are fickle creatures let me warn ya
you can tell the ones here with zero experience with gals can;t ya?
“Not true. A slut sleeps with everyone. A bitch sleeps with everyone but you. “
And an angel sleeps with no one but you, I guess.
that is the key to this...they get pregnant and they are more “invaded” in sex and are more vulnerable
it’s just different.....like puppies and kittens
the graphic image of a slutty woman is more like Last Exit to Brooklyn than a manslut is to Shampoo
anyone seen LATB knows what I mean...whew
lol..big lol...damn...
Bump (does anyone still say that?)
that was actually a decent allegory spetz
Now that Sanford’s wife is writing a book in direct contrast to wanting to be left alone for the kids (her claim) and she doesn’t need the money I am starting to understand him maybe wanting someone else.
Edwards....Elizabeth is as nasty as he is. But Edwards sucks for denying his child....
Woods....now he is a real dog. A jerk.
SHOW UP!!!!!!
Interesting except for a certain type of woman. This is one you think you have your bond for life and we both fart and let our hair down. Well that’s gross but over years where you feel comfortable and much $$$$$ is invested in that which seems to be what many others lack.
It was an illusion. For she was cultivating another arrangement. Same old stuff. I do this too much or that. Sell this house or buy me that. Never good enough because it was time for her to jump on another-which i hope is just what she needed.
It is difficult to put in one post but I’m getting old and those days where i was accused of “looking at someone”-as in extreme jealousy mode, were just a coverup.
That’s what I’m getting to, the duplicity.
There is another level where you never hate the woman and have so much invested in her and hers you don’t want her to die. It’s just eventually you realise that you were just a step and was played bigtime.
I talked to a guy recently that i’d seen before and he was working this one young lady real good at the bar.
The guy was honest with me at some point and said he hated all these bitches and was going to get whatever he could out of them. I believe I told him they are just going to be crazy but it doesn’t matter now.
All a man needs is a bunch of sweet one-liners and a wad of spendable cash in his pocket, and he's all set to "score" (of course, alcohol helps to move the process along). It really doesn't take much in the way of skills for a man to get sexual favors from a woman he's just met.
What do I think? I think you should pay your bar tab and go home.
“It was more like she was less than discriminating when it came to allowing gentlemen reproductive access to her lady parts.”
lady parts????
They start with...no they don’t. Who taught you that? i think we always expect more from our complement and get it in many ways. Their eyes, their smile, their wisdom and the things they do etc,etc etc,etc but the origional point was true. You gotta beat your way in before the others and find a decent woman to have a child with. Marry her. Love her to pieces where there is no thought in her mind that there will be another to help her defend and protect what you build together as good as you can. Equal but different.
I took it another way,what you said that men start out thinking they are less moral and that fine young lass is waiting for us at the end of the journey. But maybe she isn’t or you’re killed. Perhaps this feeds into what you’ve explained further. I disagree. There are all manner of men who do not have to penetrate a warm substance for they have higher goals ahead. Many do not return or not the same and i shant go into that now. it is that MEN do not have to cheat or act like dogs and if women chose to ignore them then it is their loss ultimately.
There is truth in jest....
Like your attitude Wardaddy....and there is still something favorable to be said for the gals who choose not to sleep around...the gals comfortable with herslf for making that decision....no concerns of pregnancy or fathers of....and though guys might not like it they still do respect her.
and you said.....”It really doesn’t take much in the way of skills for a man to get sexual favors from a woman he’s just met.”
Which tells much of the woman you are after.
Men have lost the “skill” of the hunt becuase they don’t have to. Now The deer walk up to the barrel and say shoot me.
Until he meets the real prize...then he finds within himself the “skill” he never had before...she will bring that out of him because she knows how to. That my friend is what seperates the men from the boys.
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