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(Vanity) Do the Iranians or their proxies currently have a 'scientific' satellite in a polar orbit?
In The News about the 11th of Feb ^ | 2/9/10 | Blueflag

Posted on 02/09/2010 5:33:58 AM PST by Blueflag

For the FReeper national security community --

Whereas the Iranians have promised/threatened something big on the 11th, and

Whereas polar orbit satellites pass over the CONUS repeatedly, and

Whereas satellite orbits can be willfully decayed to reach a given altitude at a given Long/Lat., and

Whereas the US has no defense against or ability to recover from an EMP attack from near space, and

Whereas the TOTUS is a FNG/REMF when it comes to serious national security;

Do the Iranians or their proxies have a satellite in low-earth/ polar orbit at the present time?


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans; Science
KEYWORDS: emp; february11; february11th; globaljihad; iran; iraniannukes; iranians; punch; satellite; stunningpunch
For the FReeper national security community --

Whereas the Iranians have promised/threatened something big on the 11th, and

Whereas polar orbit satellites pass over the CONUS repeatedly, and

Whereas satellite orbits can be willfully decayed to reach a given altitude at a given Long/Lat., and

Whereas the US has no defense against or ability to recover from an EMP attack from near space, and

Whereas the TOTUS is a FNG/REMF when it comes to serious national security;

Do the Iranians or their proxies have a satellite in low-earth/ polar orbit at the present time?

NET: do we face a credible threat (perhaps not likely) of a near-space detonation of an Iranian-sponsored nuclear device

1 posted on 02/09/2010 5:33:58 AM PST by Blueflag
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To: Blueflag

I think the possibility is very remote, but it’s extremely unsettling that we do not have much of a defense.

Unfortunately, you raise a very good point, for now and the future.


2 posted on 02/09/2010 5:37:45 AM PST by cvq3842 (A fool and his liberty are soon parted.)
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To: Blueflag

Lets hope we’re not the only ones exploring this possibility.

It would need to be at least a 1 megaton device, exploded at an optimum altitude to do the trick, IIRC. Although test have been done with smaller ones.


3 posted on 02/09/2010 5:39:39 AM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: cvq3842; Blueflag

We do have a defense and would hope we and others have been tracking this payload since it was launched.

IMO, we should blow it up, just in case.


4 posted on 02/09/2010 5:41:56 AM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Blueflag

Ummm, we would see the launch. You don’t put up anything that high into orbit without the world knowing about it.

Besides, you are giving far too much credit to the Muslims; they have very little desire for technology, for the only book worth studying is the Koran. Educators are not held in high esteem. They purchase technology, they do not develop their own.

That said, while they might ‘buy’ intelligence from a spy satellite; no one wants the US destroyed. China has too much of their money loaned to Pres. Zero to risk loosing the debt.

If there is an attack, I suspect it will be either an invastion, a missle launch or some terroristic activity that will blow up in their face in a Wiley C.Coyote sort of fiasco. Muslims aren’t very good at waging an offensive war, that requires bravery, thought, intelligence, and a grasp of the fundamentals of techology - things that have always been their weak point.


5 posted on 02/09/2010 5:42:27 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: wolfcreek

500 Kilotons shuts down at least half the US if exploded at 400 - 500 KM AGL. LEO detonation can cripple VA - MA.


6 posted on 02/09/2010 5:42:53 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Blueflag

We face a threat from Iranian or NoKo or both in my view. I don’t believe we are in any danger from orbital attack any time soon though, I just don’t believe either Country is anywhere close to the technology to pull something like that off.

Last year I read several articles at different sources that described earlier Iranian missile tests as appearing to resemble at test of an EMP attack profile.

There is an enormous difference between achieving orbital velocity and just launching a rocket straight up. For orbit you have to accelerate the payload to 17,500 MPH. For a successful EMP attack you need 200-300 miles straight up.

The other thing is that complex and difficult to build high-yield thermonuclear devices damp out EMP. A simple uranium bomb detonation at altitude would produce a destructive EMP pulse that would be amplified by the atmosphere and make it more effective (The Compton Effect).

Iran and NoKo are not stupid. They know that if either one of them dared to try a missile attack on CONUS, we would wipe them off the map, and in spades. Why would they shoot one missile at us if they know the response would be hundred if not thousands of shots in return??

The whole idea of an EMP attack is to technologically incapacitate the target country and “level the field” so to speak. William Forstchen’s book “One Second After”, in which he deals with the aftermath of an EMP attack on the US, goes into this line of reasoning, and it is scary how badly such an attack would hurt us. In the book, the attackers load enhanced Scud missiles and launchers into cargo containers, and fire them from the Gulf of Mexico. Only minutes to do anything and there is little to do but hunker down and see what’s left afterwards.


7 posted on 02/09/2010 5:52:21 AM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts...)
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To: Blueflag

They have what is essentially an ICBM in low orbit. It could have something to do with the promised hard blow against the West for 11 February. Maybe Iran already has a warhead or two and this is the way they will demonstrate that capability- with an EMP shot at the US and an ultimatum of some sort or just an over-ocean blast. At any rate they have promised some sort of bad action and I am loading up gas cans for what I
kind of expect will be a large spike in the price of oil and thus gas. If it happens I will be riding my scooter with the car parked for a while, at least. I got the scoot when the price of gas passed $4. I figure, considering the expected life of the scoot and regular expense differences between it and my car, it is cost effective to ride the two wheeler when regular gas at the pump is over $2.60.


8 posted on 02/09/2010 5:53:05 AM PST by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Blueflag
Do the Iranians or their proxies have a satellite in low-earth/ polar orbit at the present time?

No, they do not.

9 posted on 02/09/2010 5:54:38 AM PST by iowamark
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To: Blueflag

That’s what I thought.

This is assuming the Iranians have the technology to both build a sufficiently powerful device and explode it at the perfect altitude/position over the US or other target area.

If they can or get lucky, those animal onboard are toast.


10 posted on 02/09/2010 5:54:38 AM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Bean Counter

Unless Iran has received help from Russia?China? and they’re planning an invasion of the US after we’re in a weakened state.


11 posted on 02/09/2010 5:58:01 AM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Quix

Ping!


12 posted on 02/09/2010 5:59:16 AM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Blueflag

an emp will not affect the nuclear subs stationed around the world . An Iranian EMP would hopefully be met by turning Iran into glass.


13 posted on 02/09/2010 6:09:51 AM PST by Renegade ("Bring it on while I still don't need glasses to shoot your eye out ")
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To: wolfcreek

Thanks.


14 posted on 02/09/2010 6:16:42 AM PST by cvq3842 (A fool and his liberty are soon parted.)
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To: wolfcreek

If we were hit by an EMP attack, the last thing anyone would do is invade us, at least for a year, to give the food riots a chance to dampen out, and to take advantage of the millions of deaths such an attack would cause.

No need to invade. Iran doesn’t want our country, they want it destroyed.


15 posted on 02/09/2010 6:18:46 AM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts...)
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To: wolfcreek

I’m fairly confident that we

COULD

laser it or something similar

from space or from earth or from various . . . craft in between or in space.

However, if the oligarchy has decreed for Iran to succeed at it, then they would insure that our forces would allow it . . . however treasonously.

imho


16 posted on 02/09/2010 7:30:33 AM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Bean Counter

MORE THAN A LITTLE SOBERING.


17 posted on 02/09/2010 7:35:37 AM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: arthurus

Sounds like wisdom.


18 posted on 02/09/2010 7:36:55 AM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: iowamark

I gather that you are 100% certain.

Good.

Thx.


19 posted on 02/09/2010 7:37:28 AM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: wolfcreek

I think Dimitru Duduman’s visions answsered that question rather emphatically, imho.


20 posted on 02/09/2010 7:38:15 AM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: iowamark

I trust you are correct. If nothing is ‘up’, we’re good.


21 posted on 02/09/2010 12:29:37 PM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Bean Counter

“Iran doesn’t want our country”

But their handlers would love to own us.


22 posted on 02/09/2010 1:05:27 PM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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