Astronomy Picture of the Day

They rode that ship almost half a million miles in that condition. Amazing.

Yep. Those astronauts were undoubtedly some of the luckiest men ever.

Talk about being far from home without a spare.

Sig, I hope you don’t mind if I Ping all the Prayer Warriors for Jerusalem to that picture, to demonstrate the POWER OF PRAYER!

Thank you SO MUCH for posting that photo to remind us all!

INCREDIBLE.

And a charade that was totally unnecessary, if many sources are to be believed.

. . . the charade being . . . that we needed such primative craft, at all.

God has carried me quite a distance, but wow...

“INCREDIBLE.

And a charade that was totally unnecessary, if many sources are to be believed.”

Do you mean because the lunar landings were faked?

Not at all.

. . . just that we purportedly had far more advanced vehicles traveling to and from already.

What were these more advanced vehicles called? Nomenclature please, specifics if you don’t mind and even if you do mind. When you give vague answers or hints to some up to now unknown(to most of us) equipment you had better be prepared to give evidence of some kind.

better be prepared . . .

or what?

I know what my relative said who worked around such vehicles. I know his trustworthiness.

There are lots of other sources all over the web.

Help yourself.

Houston we have a problem.

“Chance favors only the prepared mind.”

If that happened today with the NASA we have now...

I was giving Quix a little jab. He’s funny, and he can take a joke. He believes that the government has advanced space technology, I don’t, but there is no reason to get surly about it.

Thanks for the ping!

No, not help myself. If someone makes a claim on FR they are supposed to back it up with facts or links to sources. Don’t give a link then your statements are BS. Period.

Thanks for your kind reply.

BTW, I’d avoided bothering about Hoagland’s last book. I get tired of such stuff, actually. It’s more of a somewhat dreary duty to keep tabs on it for BIBLICAL END TIMES prophecy correlation reasons.

HOWEVER, I just finished Paola Harris’

EXOPOLITICS: ALL THE ABOVE

and her

CONNECTING THE DOTS: Making Sense of the UFO Phenomenon

after hearing her speak and meeting her at the recent March AZTEC library’s 2010 UFO SYMPOSIUM.

She interviews a long list of well knowns in the field—including Hoagland.

Even though she seems to have been seduced into believing a lot of the lies from hell via the critters . . . she’s still a very impressive, solid, serious, skilled, bright researcher and a VERY gifted interviewer and author.

She mostly resists offering her own opinions though they can be discerned somewhat between the lines.

Anyway—it sounds like Hoagland is much more alert to the globalist oligarchy and their . . . connections with all the above, than I realized. That was an interesting tidbit I hadn’t known before.

In the excerpts below, I believe there are some very sobering hints at globalist and even Anti-Christ . . . portents.

She quotes Victor Viggiani MEd from 2008:
pp214-223 in EXOPOLITICS

p215
“We also have a UFO research community in chaos. Attempts by some to create consensus and achieve a realistic evolution of research methodologies are thwarted at every turn by reactionaries, unwilling to risk speaking of the obvious. Internal dissent, vitriol disguised as debate, e-mail crossing the vastness of cyberspace at light speed dinegrates the work of this ufologist or that exopolitician or this researcher or that government witness. A community in disarray, reflecting the general anarchy [Designed anarchy per my sense—Quix] in which the planet finds itself in 2008.” [More so now—Quix]

p. 216
“We also have a so-called monolith to deal with - an ‘elected government’ whose sole objective appears to be to prevaricate, obfuscate and turn a once cherished value called democracy into the biggest sham since the lead nickel or the dumping of grain into the ocean to keep the price of bread out of reach of third world children. Does any of this make sense?”

“A pathetic lot we are as we sit to watch the parade pass - hoping for that one really nice float at the end of the procession that will ease our conscience because we’ve sat on our hands for so long, covering our eyes and ears in the hope - ‘there must be something good coming soon.’ Good things come to those who wait, or, he who hesitates is lost? A layer of indolence or a layer of action? We become inert. An enigmatic lot we are indeed.”

. . .

“Let’s start with a siimple lie, misdirection or truth depending on your perspective or one’s reactionary tendency to disbelieve the written word. As we all know it’s hard to tell the difference these days.”

“In a 1952 CIA document entitled ‘Flying Saucers’ it states, ‘Pursuant to your request for overal evaluation of the ‘flying saucers’ and associated reports, the following is pertinent. Notwithstanding the foregoing . . . facts, so long as a series of reports remains ‘unexplainable’ (interplanetary aspects and alien origin not being thoroughly excluded from consideration) caution requires that intelligence continue coverage of the subject. It is recommended that CIA surveillance of the subject matter, in coordination with proper authorities . . . be continued. [italics:] It is strongly urged, however, that no indication of CIA interest or concern reach the press or public, in view of their probable alarmist tendencies to accept such interest as confirmatory of the soundness of ‘unpublished facts’ in the hands of the U.S. government.’ [EDWARD TAUS]” [/italics]

“Choose to accept it or not, but as part of the American CIA web site in 2008 it must be considered. Many documents like it exist. . . . “

p.217
“Are we to believe that since 1952 we have been so well manipulated [Qx: YES!] that anything said about the UFO issue would be so soaked in doubt and tainted by disinformation that we disregard it outright because nothing, no-thing, can be trusted as a representation of reality when it comes to reaching some understanding that we may be being visited by off-world civilizations? Or, in an even more lenient way, ignoring what may become part of a subtle and complex puzzle leading to a clearer picture of what the truth may hold.”

“Any UFO researcher or media journalist who cannot see that this CIA memo clearly indicates there is a very good reason to believe that a recommendation was put in place by the [CIA] to obfuscate the UFO issue decades ago, and who fails to investigate it in public, is either stupid (in the true sense of the word . . . or is part of the same obfuscation process which originated the memo int he first place. Thsi type of information must be viewed as at least part of the truth-puzzle; a layer to be examined not cast away in the winds of distrust. These kinds of conversations were and still are rampant but few pay heed.”

“It is not surprising then that many of us feel we have been so cleverly lied to for so long that as a community we do not know what to believe any more. This has been the success of the body politic - [italics] to keep us thoroughly confused about the UFO/ET issue and yet keep it cleverly hidden in the ilght of day under a canvas of secrecy. [/italics] Like a tarpaulin covering a car, it yields to the open mind a silhouette that tells us it’s a vehicle. We see it before our eyes yet we are unable to discern details of its year, make, colour and model or whether it can be driven forwards or backwards; a very frustrating situation to our purportedly sophisticated intellectual human acuity. Especially when we are being told it’s an elephant.”

. . .

p218
“ . . . the Pentagon alone had about 10,000 classification compartments . . . We number our classified documents by the trillion, and the number continues to grow.”

. . .

“The failure of media to question government secrecy in 2008 at all levels contradicts the role of media as a public guardian. Besides lies by government - the media’s flaccid presence is the greatest crime against a humanity the press was once inaugurated to serve.”

“Media has become indolent. Media has become a tool of a political slight of hand; a public deception, a manufacturer or madness witnessed on the nightly news and then again on Oscar night for the truly media-insane. If media were to ever wake up from its self-induced coma or choose to shed the drug administered to it by government intell-agencies, the fourth estate would awaken thoroughly embarrassed, unshaven as it peers into the morning mirror. Not recognizing itself, it will run and hide in the nearest forest of lies of its own making. Hearing whispers of secrecy it neglects to confront, those in the media may need to find a comfortable rock under which to hide when ET comes knocking. Explanations of weather balloons will collapse like a cheap inflatable latex doll.”

p220
“When will a leader emerge in journalism or in political life who is not fearful of high risk in order to tell the truth by breaking the cycle of silence and infectiously mundane issues to engage and link the ET issue to the enormous energy problems we face, the catastrophic environmental decay and a dysfunctional and immoral political agenda that keeps the poor, poor and the rich very, very rich?”

“Maybe that’s the way things ought to be in a world run by a corporate elite status quo. The world-wide onslaught of daily news has become a pernicious veil of mendacious pseudo-reality. This veil screens an indolent but needy citizenry from ‘behind-the-scenes geo-politics’ that refuses to acknowledge not only its own mendacity but the blatant evidence of ethical [Qx disagrees about ethical] off-world civilizations. The current path says: remain complicit. But a new path takes us to a new morality. [Qx disagrees].

What a silly standard.

Enjoy your assumptions.

Sure, it’s nice when folks back stuff up.

However, there are MANY VALID reasons not to.

Ignorance of that fact is . . . welllll . . . unimpressive ignorance.

Thanks for the ping.

Always ready to go along with a little ribbing, however I wasn’t being surly, I was being truthful. Either put up a link, put up a sarcasm tag or don’t say it:). It is very difficult, if not impossible, for anyone to tell if any other person is kidding or being sarcastic without a written indication of it. So, if someone gets “surly” then you only have yourself to blame.