Public school indoctrination at its “finest”.
The VA is quite effective now days. Most of its patients have died off. Most doctors are effective with dead patients. (WWII vets, the bulk of patients in the VA, are dying of old age).
More safer? Really a bright kid!
Re: Advice - Wise men don’t need it; and fools won’t heed it.
Drop this conversation like a bad habit !
Three deep breaths, and move on !
I work for the VA - the “improvements,” such as they are, have nothing to do with Obama but the agency head under President Bush. Obama has done absolutely nothing for the VA, and the fact is, I still would’nt want to be a patient there.
Do you really think you’ll win this battle with your niece? If not then why in the world would you get yourself so flusterated over something that in the long run you aren’t going to prevail. Life is made up of choices and this is one you can make and live with the outcome.
I’m so sorry you have to deal w/this! I can tell you the VA is still a disaster regardless of what your niece thinks. Ask her how she thinks VA doctors feel about not being allowed to refer their patients to a specialist which they are desperately in need of. Or how those patients feel about the outcome. She fails to realize that life isn’t all about her or her boyfriend (who doesn’t seem to mind abusing the system!).
You have much more patience than I do. I’m afraid I would have already, “eaten her lunch”. My best to you in your efforts:)
Don’t even think you can reason with these people. I have a brother just like this. Under George Bush all our taxes were going to the military. I just received an email from him today that said all our tax dollars now is going for infrastructure and we should be happy (even though he’s moaning about no jobs to be found). You can show them all the facts and figures and they still won’t believe you.
As far as the tea partiers, I’m tired of these stupid people denograting the Tea Party movement and I’m proud to stand with them. I’d ask her what’s wrong with lowering taxes or going to a fair tax structure? It doesn’t make any difference if they weren’t organized under George Bush. Does she think her taxes are too low? If she does ask her when she will send a donation to the US Treasury.
The abortion analogy she used was absolutely appalling and betrayed a sinister indifference to human life. The little gem that I posted above is about the most ignorant and stupid thing I've read in along time.
This one needs a lot of guidance but if she were my niece she'd have to get it somewhere else. I'd have to cut her off to preserve my sanity.
see my tagline. Can i tell you a big secret??? Obama has nothing to do with the way the VA is run.
Another....tea partiers have had nothing to say because that’s not our focus, just like we don’t speak up about breast cancer or how our libraries might not have the books we want.
and do you love this niece or pity her? Because she’s a fool.
It’s an unfortunate fact of Nature.: You can’t fix stupid.
I looked at the other replies and have to agree that this is a losing proposition. How old is this person? Her email doesn’t show that she’s had much of an education. She can spout talking points to a degree but if she thinks the VA has improved this much in what? a month - she’s not even thinking for herself. I believe they all learn the pat answers and that ends it for them.
I really wouldn’t waste my time - niece or no niece. I have sisters like that and we don’t even mention the word politics in our conversations - all phone conversations as I’m safely 1000 miles away from them.
You can pray that she gets it together before it’s too late. That’s about all we can hope and pray for at this point. I wouldn’t want to be around when these kids (I’m assuming that from her writing) learn what kind of a country they bought - and what they helped to destroy!
Write her off. I have a nephew like that. I don’t communicate with him anymore. My advice to him (and your niece) “Piss Off. Someday you will know what I’m talking about, and by then, it’ll be too late. Start sleeping in the bed you made. When someone (or your children) asks 20 years from now “WHO PUT US IN THIS MESS?”, you can raise your hand and say I DID, because sure as shoot’n, God willing, I’ll be there to tell your kids “YOUR MOM DID””
The response? (already, an acknowledgment of guilt)
“YOU WOULDN’T DARE!”
heheheh
(Oh yeah, I would)
‘’’The next big 15 Superpowers’’. 15 Superpowers? And who might they be, these ‘’15 Superpowers?
Tell her she’s a walking DNC cliche. Then tell her she would prefer her Healthcare was decided by a corrupt gummit than her doctor but you prefer just the opposite.
Pray for America
I have a VA story.
At an American Legion almost a year ago we were informed of a program that would aid World War 2 veterans who have become inform and pay some toward medical care in the home.
My Uncle had Alzheimers and my Aunt is caring for him at home, so I gave her this information. her daughter is usually very good with paperwork, so she filed the papers for the money. She was beseiged with paperwork to prove he was eligible. She filled it all out. In fact she was asked for the same informations twice and handle it both times. She has written , spopken to representative , she has a file of paperwork 2 inches thick of all of her documentation.
My Uncle hasnt received a dime. The last time she went to the VA lady the lady told her it couls take upwards of two years.the only thing we can assume when VA takes two years to help an Alzheimer patient is that VA works this way hoping the recipient will die before they have to send any money.
I completely understand your frustration. However, at some point you will need to accept that beating your head against a brick wall is a complete waste of your time and energy...and, should you want to remain friendly with her (or, in my case...friendly with family members), you will have to agree to disagree and change the subject. It’s what I had to do when my sister, who supports single-payer and Obama, told me it’s time for a “change” to socialism because capitalism got us into this mess and, she added, communism isn’t a bad thing either, it just needs to be done right.
It’s just not worth the effort.
The one gov. program I have personally seen work better and more efficiently (since Obama got in) Is the VA.
Ask her:Who is the head of the VA? When were they appointed and by whom?
Michaels meds come in the mail, well before he is out, and he has mentioned (jokingly) that all he has to do is feign an illness and he could get whatever med he wanted.
Ask her: Do you honestly believe that this is a sign of efficiency?
As for gov. funded abortions, That isn't happening.
Ask her: What do you base this belief on? Have you read the bill?
However insurance funded abortions are a real thing. The premiums I pay to United Health Care are going to cover some womans abortion
Ask her:Do you pay premiums of your own free will?
(they would rather her have an abortion cuz it's cheaper for them then having her carry full term, not to mention delivery, pre natal care, etc...)
Ask her: Where did you get this info? Can you prove it?
Kinda like how 1 trillion of our tax dollars go to military spending (mostly mercenarys or contractors) I don't like the idea of my money being used to pay the $950 a day salary of a Blackwater mercenary who is killing Iraqi civilians...
Ask her: Where did you get this and can you prove any of it?
BTW how come I don't hear the tea party mention that?
Ask her: Do you know what T(axed)E(nough)A(lready) stands for? Do you know anything about the Tea Party?
We spend more on defense then the next big 15 superpowers combined
Ask her: Who are the 15 super powers?