Posted on 05/31/2010 8:14:20 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
He can't. It never happened.
What nonsense is this? Apple included other browsers with equal billing until MS decided to quit developing IE for Mac. There are zero blocks or other hindrances to a long list of browsers from operating freely on OS X. This isn't the case when MS was hammered for predatory practices that actually built in FORCED use of IE - it was made inseparable from the OS, and blocks were actually placed within Windows that prevented other browsers from fully functioning.
If there is some other "forced buying of their software", then PLEASE point it out.
Because Windows users seem to be hell-bent on throwing insults and accusations at Mac users on a regular basis. As has been pointed out right here on FR on many occasions - attacks by Apple users on Windows/Microsoft and their users are very hard to find. Yet direct attacks ON Apple and their users are quite easy to find (this thread is an example of such). I have been called gay, childish, and many other "names" simply for being an Apple fan. Yet I have never used such terminology towards Windows users.
You could use a basic two button + wheel mouse without installing anything on 9.0.4. Probably earlier, but that was the only Mac I ever got to try it on...the (considerably!) older ones didn’t have USB ports.
I have both..
The first generation of microcomputers were based on 8-bit chips originally devised for traffic-light controllers and the like. Intel came out with the first 16-bit microprocessor in 78 but the segmented-memory architecture was so fubar that the entire community of OEM microcomputer makers out in Silicon Valley looked at it and looked at the specs for the 68000 and said thanks but no thanks, we'd rather wait the two years and if Intel had been a Japanese company at the time the board of directors and owners would have committed sepuku at that point since that clearly would have been more shame than they could have lived with.
Thus the natural decision of the 300 or so companies making microcomputers at the time was to let Intel die. IBM then stepped in with the PC and reversed the entire natural market decision and the one company which was in a position to make any sort of a mass market computer using 68000 chips and challenge IBM on the point was Apple, which thereupon produced two 68000 computers (Lisa and toaster-mac) which were so pathetic they convinced most of the world that the 68000 chip itself was a bad idea. In fact both computers used the 68000 chip itself to generate graphics, remnant compute power being less than a 2mh trash-80. Decent memory and disk capacity were conspicuous by their absences, the two joke machines having only one very slow floppy disk.
Then, in 1985, Atari came out with a totally gorgeous microcomputer, the 520ST, which was what the PC should have been from day one: an 8mh 68000 chip, a real graphics card, a real color monitor, the GEM GUI environment, a fast floppy and a good hard disk available at realistic price.
Apple, realizing that they would need four years starting from then to produce anything similar, hauled Atari's reps into their offices in Cupertino and demanded both money and a list of crippling changes to the GEM environment, threatening to tie the thing up in courtrooms for ten years otherwise, and Atari and DRI caved, i.e. the consumer never got to see anything like the full capability of the ST.
This was similar to Msoft's tactics in shutting down the good version of OS-2 in 93. The problem of course is that the next time the United States needs to wait four years for Apple or Microsoft to catch up, it might be somebody in India or China who catches up.
But the thing that gets to me is Apple playing games like that and then calling themselves the 'counter-culture' computer or 'the computer for the rest of us(TM)'... What do they mean by the 'rest of us'? The Cosa Nostra??
Buying Apple is a total rip-off for many computer users and I have a good example. I have a friend who has been wanting to get on the internet for a while and do other basic things such as email, writing a letter then printing it and mailing it
So this week we are going to Staples where there is a $300 Compaq desktop. Has 3GB memory and will easily handle whatever he does
He wants a big LCD monitor so we are probably going to get him an Acer 23" LCD for $157
Total bill is $457 and no way Apple can compare to this. What you malign as cheesy is good enuff for most people
Actually his total bill will be $257 because via his credit card he has $200 in Staples gift cards
Apple will never accept gift cards because they are the world's premier floggers of over priced schlock, not Compaq
The anemic MacMini comes with no keyboard, no mouse, no monitor. So if you bought one + an LCD monitor you would be out $800-$900 or so
“that Apple is now the “Big Brother” they once decried. Which is exactly what’s happened”
.......thereby validating that cliche’ as truth.
Ok, I'll bite: what makes you say that? I went to Apple's website and built an iMac. It cost $2000 with no upgrades. I went to HP's site and built an similar computer. $1,149.98, including HP's overpriced monitor that I could buy elsewhere for less. Oh, and I got a free upgrade in RAM, so the HP actually has better specs. And HP's optical drive is faster.
I think Apple makes some slick computers, but I'm just not sure how you can say they are comparably priced. Heck, with an iMac, you have to buy the most expensive one before you even get a quad core processor. That is seriously lame. I bought my "bargain basement" HP, as you call it, for something like $650 and I got a quad core processor.
With the popularity of Apple retail stores it is unsurprising that Best Buy would not sell a ton of Apple stuff. As far as I know the student discount is only available at Apple stores, and so it is likely that anyone who knows anyone with a student ID would buy from there.
With the popularity of the iPhone and iPod it is getting harder and harder to find people who aren’t previous Apple owners.
A few years ago you would have been correct in stating there is a difference but 180 degrees off as to which way the difference lies - as Intel Processors are Little Endian and PPC processors Big Endian. Now that Macs use Intel processors, you’re wrong in a different way because they’re all Little Endian.
Not so anemic. The reason it comes with no keyboard, mouse, or monitor is because it was designed for people whose computer went out and still had a functional keyboard, mouse, and monitor. >>>>>>>>>>
Yeah their 6 year old Dell died and they will use the same 15” square aspect (CRT?) monitor with Mac Mini. Riiiiiight! Plus I was not aware that Mac Mini came with two PS2 ports
Amusing how you are describing Apple’s typical parasitism here.
Microsoft is like the USSR and Apple is like People’s Republic of China. By that I mean disliking one doesn’t mean you have to like the other or the other way round.
I don’t happen to like either company, although I do admit to using both of their products.
As a very happy Mac Mini user I can assure you it’s not “anemic” in anyway, shape or form. I do pro sound/studio recording via Logic Express with mine and have never had a problem with it. I just released a CD of Faith-based music earlier this year which was recorded, mixed & mastered on my Mini.
I also play a fun 3d mmorpg called Warhammer on my mini and have a blast doing so. I have a very nice Logitech keyboard, HP wireless mouse & an inexpensive LCD monitor I’ve had for a few years from my pc days connected to it. I am VERY happy with it.
All those themes are true plus the one about Apple marketing to an urban, female, gay, hip, artistic, younger demographic.
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Ain’t capitalism great!!!!
Find and exploit (in the economic sense) a market better and faster than your competition.
Are Apple haters anti capitalist?!?!
And Apple’s software isn’t exceedingly protective? As a matter of fact Apple Corp likes it that way so they can charge more for it. And that isn’t predatory?
They created a mystique about a product through superior public relations, get enough people to buy into it, then price gouge them.
A full OS X license is $129. A Home Premium Windows 7 license is $199. The more similar Windows Ultimate is $319. Who is price gouging on their more expensive software?
Also, there is no serial number to enter with OS X. If you were so inclined you could buy the single user license and install it on as many computers as you want.
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