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FReeper Help Needed - Looking for WWII images of General Chase in Manila or original Great Raid pics
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Posted on 06/21/2010 5:42:06 PM PDT by mnehring

Good evening fellow FReeps. I am doing a little history research and Google/Bing is not working out well. My grandmother, parents and I have been digging through some of my late grandfather's old commendation records and have learned some very interesting things about his history in WWII. He never would talk about it, but apparently he was part of the group that was depicted in the movie "The Great Raid" and was the second person to enter the recently liberated Manila right behind General Chase. He was the squad leader of the fifth Cav division.

We never knew much about what he did as he refused to talk about anything from the war but the more we dig, the more treasures we are finding.

I am hoping to find some images online, specifically around the 5th Cav in the Philippines and later Japan to start to put his the whole history together.


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: firstcav; greatraid; manila; wwii
We know he has several photo albums somewhere in their old house but it has been impossible to find them. I just remember seeing them when I was very young.
1 posted on 06/21/2010 5:42:07 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

...forgot to add, he was also part of the last mounted cavalry regiment (other than symbolic) in the Army.


2 posted on 06/21/2010 5:45:18 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: SandRat

Ping to see if you know any Pacific theater vets or other resources.


3 posted on 06/21/2010 5:45:57 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

That is very cool! I would love to hear the rest of this story!


4 posted on 06/21/2010 5:54:52 PM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: mnehring

http://www.nhi.gov.ph//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=36&Itemid=3

start here.


5 posted on 06/21/2010 5:56:53 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: mnehring

http://www.google.com.ph/images?q=The%20pangatian%20raid&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi

Assuming it is the Pangatian raid.


6 posted on 06/21/2010 5:59:29 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: caver

The story is the strange part. He would never talk about it, but apparently, he refused a Silver Star. One of the letters we found was from General Chase disappointed in his refusal of the commendation. That is the confusing part, especially considering he had pretty good career for the next decade, from Tokyo to Austria. Even my grandmother doesn’t know the story, there are a lot of mysteries around it. It may just be the kind of person he was, but I really would like to start filling in the blanks. (plus I’m a nut for this type of stuff).


7 posted on 06/21/2010 6:05:38 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

http://www.insigne.org/alamo-scouts.htm


8 posted on 06/21/2010 6:05:41 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1
Thanks, we did find this:


9 posted on 06/21/2010 6:10:25 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

There’s a picture here of Chase and his men
http://www.1cda.org/santo_tomas_raid.htm


10 posted on 06/21/2010 6:12:57 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: bushpilot1

Thanks, one of the mysteries is he was recommended for a commendation for the liberation but I can’t find anything that says the 5th Cav was part of the Alamo Scouts although records show they were right there at the same time. .


11 posted on 06/21/2010 6:13:58 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

That it realy interesting stuff, I think. I’m a WWII buff and all of it is interesting.

To make an extremely long story short, My Mother had bought a house from a long time friend of hers. For whatever reason, after the woman’s husband died, she became estranged from his family. Then, myMother died, I got boxes of stuff of the woman’s husband’s brother who was a Marine killed in the intial invasion of Saipan. There was a Purple Heart and numerous other medals. I tarcked down the remaing family and returned the stuff to them. I don’t know whether they appreciated it or not but I felt relieved.


12 posted on 06/21/2010 6:14:59 PM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: mnehring

If he was involved in the Cabanatuan raid, he would have been in the 6th Ranger Battalion. Perhaps he was in the covering/reception force to which the 6th Rangers returned ? I don’t think the 6th Rangers were sent to Manila.

The 1st Cavalry Division was heavily involved in the liberation of Manila. It consisted of the 5th, 7th, 8th and 12th Cavalry Regiments plus supporting units.

Brigadier-General Chase was the commander of the 8th Cavalry Regiment, and led the “flying column”, which was a mixture of units of the 1st Cavalry Division including parts of the 5th and 8th Cavalry Regiments plus other units as well, that liberated the Santo Tomas internment camp where the Japanese had imprisoned thousands of Allied civilians.

Perhaps he was referring to the Santo Tomas incident, which was very similar to that of Cabanatuan, and for that matter also the simultaneous Bilibid raid and the later raid on Los Banos.

He could have belonged to quite a few of the 1st Cavalry Division units and credibly claimed to have been first into Manila, or one part or another of Manila, as there was something of a general surge into the city by the 1st Cavalry.

This is a very good short article on the Santo Tomas raid -

http://www.1cda.org/santo_tomas_raid.htm

Some interesting pictures -

http://www.cnac.org/emilscott/santotomas01.htm

There is quite a large literature on the Santo Tomas incident, including lots of memoirs by the internees.

As for the 1st Cavalry, they were all involved in the subsequent and very bloody Battle of Manila. An uncle of mine, a Filipino guerilla, “attached” himself to I think the 5th Cavalry Regiment, which had many Spainsh-speaking soldiers from New Mexico, so he preferred their company as he could understand them better ! If your grandfather was in the 5th, they may have run across each other ! My uncle was with the regiment in the attack on the Rizal Memorial stadium, and for a few months later -

http://baseballinwartime.blogspot.com/2010/01/battle-for-rizal-stadium.html

This is an excellent short history, including a good section on the Santo Tomas raid -

The Battle for Manila - Richard Connaughton


13 posted on 06/21/2010 6:40:33 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: buwaya

Great info, thanks. I am just collecting right now to see what comes up.


14 posted on 06/21/2010 7:44:11 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: buwaya

Great info, thanks. I am just collecting right now to see what comes up.


15 posted on 06/21/2010 7:44:55 PM PDT by mnehring
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