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To: GladesGuru
Got ideas?

Just what are your ideas, GG? You don't want laws or a government to enforce them regarding child abuse? Huh? All because you have an alleged incident that perhaps was wrongly enforced with unintended consequences? Huh? What are your ideas about child sex abuse and how children can be protected from evil? No laws, no rules, leave it up to citizens? Huh?

170 posted on 08/03/2010 2:18:17 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: vox_freedom

Until the mid 1800’s there were no age of consent laws. They came in as part of a legal response to the factory abuses of child workers in an industrializing society.

As for what I’d like, I would like each child to have two parents who cared about the child and carefully educated their child.

I am not sure how government can participate in child raising. So far, its efforts have been prohibitively expensive and generally counter-productive.

You raised a central question regarding protecting children from evil. Florida (and probably other states) have tried government and it has been an expensive, intrusive failure.

Evil, like liberty must be dealt with with eternal vigilance. Be on the lookout for evil, and be eternally suspicious of all who are your public servants, as it is the nature of servants to steal.

I posed these question because America has a child abuse industry which produces more abuse than it prevents, laws regarding children which clearly do not protect the children the laws were supposed to protect or deter abusers.

In case I didn’t make my self clear, the entire Florida Child Protection System was found to have more abuse being visited upon the children in state custody than when they were not in said state custody.

The failure is systemic and seemingly unfixable. Perhaps we must accept the reality that parents are the only viable option, and accept the possibility that some parents are horrid, destructive people who do horrid and destructive things to children.

I am sorry if I am the bearer of bad news about a failed system, but that is just what is.

Hopefully, the FR community may be able to come up with some ideas. Waiting for government to deal with this issue is like waiting for Godot.

And, I didn’t bring lunch.

At least, I hope the question of what to do about our failed child protection services will grow legs and produce some viable answers.


172 posted on 08/03/2010 3:02:52 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: vox_freedom; GladesGuru
What are your ideas about child sex abuse and how children can be protected from evil? No laws, no rules, leave it up to citizens? Huh?

Read post 122 and be prepared to lose your lunch. This is what he thinks......As madison said, there is NO Constitutional authority for government to do charity. That means, government should keep its hands off the family.

Yes, some children will be beaten, seduced, raped, even killed. But, given that government intervention is worse - perhaps we must rely on family and neighbors, and church members.

Some people think it's better that some children's lives are destroyed that for the government to be able to do anything about it.

174 posted on 08/03/2010 3:45:56 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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