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Stepping up from my Browning 9mm (FReeper advice needed for higher caliber pistol)
vanity ^ | 8-5-10 | wac3rd

Posted on 08/05/2010 12:13:58 AM PDT by wac3rd

I bought a 9mm and love using it, but am debating what to get for home protection at a higher caliber.

I like the looks of the 1911 45's and I also like the idea of a 40 caliber Glock or 10mm Glock. I think I want a semi-automatic, so the revolver is out...

Finally, should I get a shorter barrel (4" or less) or stick with the standard 4.5 - 5" barrel?

Your advice would be very much appreciated...


TOPICS: Hobbies; Military/Veterans; Reference; Sports
KEYWORDS: 10mm; 40cal; 45sw; banglist; handgun; homedefense
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I MISS K-BAY!!!!


61 posted on 08/05/2010 6:28:19 AM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: wac3rd
If you are shooting a Browning High Power in 9mm (great gun!) then the 1911 type .45 is going to be a natural fit for you. And despite all the mucking about with modern pistol design it doesn't get much better then the 1911. As you have already show remarkable taste in handguns I might also suggest the Sig 220. I prefer the 1911 but the 220 is deserving of an honorable mention.

There will come a time when you realize that both your pistol and your shotgun are only designed to fight your way to your rifle. When you reach this point you will be ready to join the fellowship of the AR.

62 posted on 08/05/2010 6:32:04 AM PDT by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: wac3rd

THe best advice you an usually get around here is:

Go to a range that rents.
Try them out.
Pick the one you like the best.

I’ll add: 45 is great, and 40 is great too, and gives you a few more shots per magazine.

Give consideration to the models that are DA/SA, so that the first shot is a heavy pull, and rest are fast. It is essentially a safety-less auto (but it has a safety if you want.)

Don’t agonize over cost. Good guns cost money. Consider the top brands like Sig, HK, etc. Buy the one your heart thinks is coolest, because you’ll feel better practicing with it.


63 posted on 08/05/2010 6:35:51 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Anything worth doing, is worth doing badly at first.)
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To: Bottom_Gun

If you like the DPX ammo take a look at the new Critical Defense from Hornady.


Amen to Critical Defense. Those guys in Nebraska are geniuses at designing ammo.


64 posted on 08/05/2010 6:38:09 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Anything worth doing, is worth doing badly at first.)
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To: Joe Brower

You know....the JBTs love them too.


65 posted on 08/05/2010 7:08:55 AM PDT by BenLurkin (Will must be the harder, courage the bolder, spirit must be the more, as our might lessens.)
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To: SirFishalot

since i bought a glock 27 and use corbon 135gr i havent had to buy another gun......it shoots well......it conceals well..just an all round good gun


66 posted on 08/05/2010 7:09:49 AM PDT by riverChief
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To: wac3rd

As others have said, a shotgun is the best in terms of firepower.

As for handguns, the 125gr JHP .357 magnum is the #1 round for one shot one kill. Get one with a 6+ inch barrel and it becomes very controllable.

As for a semi-auto, a .45, .40 and 9mm, 10mm are all just about as effective. People will argue statistics but in actual shootings the difference is very small.

Keep in mind, it’s about the indian not the arrow. One shot center mass is better than 10 misses or grazes.


67 posted on 08/05/2010 7:12:38 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: wac3rd

cartridge: .357 Sig Delivery system: many options. Find one that works best for you. I prefer the Sig P226


68 posted on 08/05/2010 7:17:57 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: IamConservative

It may blow up a watermelon but when I can get a roughly 90% one shop stop percentage with garden variety 9MM HP rounds I’m not sure I see the advantage, especially considering the weight and handling characteristics of the gun.

Plus, the load your talking about is a specialty round - one specialty round. Which means it will be expensive if you intend to practice, assuming you can find it. I can go into any gun shop in America and will have multiple choices of effective 9mm loads that wont break the bank.

I guess will just disagree on this one.


69 posted on 08/05/2010 7:22:41 AM PDT by Radio_Silence
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To: Jim Noble

Hi, Jim, thanks for reminding me that to give up
one’s position is not smart. In reality, I most likely
would have thrown a shell into the chamber well before
I see him. (s)

But... thanks again.

Lee Davis


70 posted on 08/05/2010 7:31:58 AM PDT by Razmataz
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To: wac3rd

There is no ‘stepping up’ from a Browning Hi Power.


71 posted on 08/05/2010 7:38:55 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: wac3rd

Don’t buy a Glock without thoroughly testing it first.

Nothing wrong with Glocks; they’re great guns.

The problem is that they don’t feel right in everybody’s hands. Mine for instance. Could never get used to their feel, sold my .40 cal. Seems like my hands prefer 1911’s.


72 posted on 08/05/2010 7:50:26 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: wac3rd
If you really think you need a bigger pistol caliber, but also really like your Browning (Hi-Power, right?) be aware that Browning also makes the Hi-Power in .40 cal. Standard magazines are 10 rds instead of 13 ... not a bad trade.

I really dislike the 1911; I really like the Hi-Power, whether in 9x19 or .40.

73 posted on 08/05/2010 7:55:04 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Radio_Silence

That is not correct. I know of a guy who shot a perp with the .410 Bond Arms .45/.410 round. The perp dropped to the ground and died within two minutes.

The penetration of the .410 round from the Taurus in ballistic gelatin is 15 inches by test. Four 000 buckshot rounds in the body is quite lethal.

As to the difference between the Taurus and the Derringers the question I have been asked is: “Well, just how many triple ought buckshot rounds do you need?.” Answer: One.

Cobra has just come out with a .45/.410 derringer and it looks quite nice. These are very legitimate defense guns.

.410s are used in many states for deer and they work quite well.


74 posted on 08/05/2010 8:01:15 AM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: Durus
If you are shooting a Browning High Power in 9mm (great gun!) then the 1911 type .45 is going to be a natural fit for you.

Not necessarily. Angle between barrel and grip is very similar, but the shape of the grip is very different. 1911 is relatively long and skinny, HiPower is short and fat.

For me, at least, it's the difference between feeling "right" in my hand, and not. I greatly prefer the HP.

75 posted on 08/05/2010 8:02:25 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: BenLurkin
"the JBTs love them too."

I agree that one must be careful of the information one divulges on open forums such as this; I know I am. But one cannot deny that a lot of useful information can be exchanged without revealing too much.

That rule goes for any internet forums, not just this one.

76 posted on 08/05/2010 8:07:32 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: wac3rd
I was going to go with 10mm Glock... but went with a .45 Glock because you can get a 10mm drop in barrel (with the same outer diameter as a .45 so no new slide) and have both
77 posted on 08/05/2010 8:20:06 AM PDT by tophat9000 (.............................. BP + BO = BS ...........................Formula for a disaster...)
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To: Wooly
Plus the fact that a shotgun will be less likely to harm your neighbors property.

Or your neighbors, for that matter.

78 posted on 08/05/2010 8:37:38 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: IamConservative

Which round is that? I hadn’t heard of it. I do know about the new Federal .410 handgun round that seems to shoot better than the normal shotgun round, but the description you gave is a new one for me.


79 posted on 08/05/2010 8:39:45 AM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: wac3rd
Exchanging one thoroughly capable pistol for another doesn't make much sense to me, especially since your Browning High Power is one of the best 9mm pistols ever invented.

I think you should keep your 9mm since you're already imprinting your muscle memory into your brain by using it, and you're best off adding a shotgun to your home defense plan.

If you want to talk defensive shotguns, I like Benelli M1 Super 90s with Surefire tactical forearms containing a 110 lumen LED spotlight.

80 posted on 08/05/2010 8:39:59 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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