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'Mad Men' gets an 'A' for awkward
CNN.com ^ | 08/23/2010 | Jennifer Smith

Posted on 08/24/2010 9:10:11 AM PDT by OldDeckHand

Is it just me, or were there some capital “A” for "Awkward" moments on last night’s ”Mad Men”?

SCDP found itself vying for a lucrative Honda contract with competing firm Cutler Gleason Chaough. CGC poached the Clearasil and Jai Alai accounts from SCDP and agency partner Ted Chaough was a particular thorn in Don’s side, so it was important that our boys at SCDP won the account.

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Now, let’s all grab our blankies, go to our respective happy places and talk about Sally Draper for a minute. What else can you really say about last night other than, “poor Sally”? Ten-years-old and shuttled between an absent parent and a terrible one, Sally began acting out in earnest.

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Betty was infuriated with Don and slapped Sally upon seeing her butchered locks. Henry acted as the voice of reason and told Betty that grounding Sally would only make her act out further. Then at a sleepover later in the episode, Sally indulged in a little self-exploration and was caught by her friend’s mother. Oh, Sally, I’m mortified on your behalf!

Horrified, the girl’s mother brought Sally home in the middle of the night and told Betty what had transpired. Betty, the clear frontrunner for 1965’s Mother of the Year, shamed and threatened Sally and decided that she needed to see a therapist. Ugh. She really is just awful.

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This was one of the most uncomfortable scenes I have ever watched on a television show. First, the subject-matter is just uncomfortable, but second - and most importantly - I couldn't help but think what was going through the mind of this YOUNG actress while she's being given direction on this "act" by some middle-aged man director on a sound-stage surrounded by teamsters. What kind of parent puts their kid through this?

The "actress", Kiernan Shipka, was born November 10, 1999

1 posted on 08/24/2010 9:10:15 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand
Well, I had to giggle when it turns out that Sally was "aroused" by the tied and bound image of "Ilya Kuriakin" from Man from Uncle. One of the reasons I watch the show is the jarring nostalgia, the way I'd forgotten about so many things from my childhood--the chain-smoking, the fashions, the attitudes.

We know a little bit more about the writer of this show, don't we? A little bondage, maybe? Like getting turned on by the effeminate character from a sixties spy show?

2 posted on 08/24/2010 9:14:30 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Cameras, cameras--never forget to bring your cameras)
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To: OldDeckHand

I find the show philosophically Nihilist.

I can’t watch.


3 posted on 08/24/2010 9:17:18 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why are 100% of Rape / Assaults in Oslo, Norway, committed by Muslims?)
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To: OldDeckHand

I am seriously considering not watching that show anymore. At least when Peter Weir directed “Witness” he told the child actor playing the Amish boy viewing the crime just to look through a door; the rest of the scene showing the murder was filmed separately and not mentioned to that juvenile thespian. But this most recent episode was despicable and at the very least I am complaining. It is one thing to have an adult actress portraying self-gratification, but showing a little girl is, well, child pornography. Unsurprisingly some men lust for this subject. (I turned off the sound during those scenes once I realized what was going on...ugh.)


4 posted on 08/24/2010 9:21:08 AM PDT by Andrea19
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To: Uncle Miltie

Ahhhh I DVDr’d it watching it tonight.


5 posted on 08/24/2010 9:21:35 AM PDT by exist
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To: Uncle Miltie

After merely reading about this inane show, I feel a need to watch “Conagher” or “Zulu” or something.


6 posted on 08/24/2010 9:22:30 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Mamzelle
"One of the reasons I watch the show is the jarring nostalgia, the way I'd forgotten about so many things from my childhood--the chain-smoking, the fashions, the attitudes. "

Me too. I'm roughly the age of Drapper's second oldest, so I saw those days through that same prism. But, while the artifacts of nostalgia bring back long-forgotten memories, the family dynamic that is being portrayed is COMPLETELY foreign to me. I'm not saying there weren't families just like this, but I grew up in a loud, Catholic Italian family with an entirely different dynamic.

I don't know if Betty Draper is a caricature of Matt Weiner's (the Producer and show-runner) own mother, but she doesn't remind me of anyone in my own childhood.

7 posted on 08/24/2010 9:22:52 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: exist

One of the best written, best acted shows on tv.


8 posted on 08/24/2010 9:22:59 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Mamzelle

“Ilya Kuriakin” effeminate character ???!!!


9 posted on 08/24/2010 9:23:16 AM PDT by tophat9000 (.............................. BP + BO = BS ...........................Formula for a disaster...)
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One of the best written, best acted shows on tv.

Which ain't sayin much.

10 posted on 08/24/2010 9:24:47 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: OldDeckHand

I was wondering what they told her. It’s entirely possible they directed her to act more ‘sneaky’ than ‘naughty’. Clever editing takes care of the rest.


11 posted on 08/24/2010 9:25:04 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: OldDeckHand

Mad Men is fiction. On cable. Don’t like it? Don’t watch it. You seem to be advocating censorship, yes?


12 posted on 08/24/2010 9:25:04 AM PDT by pabianice
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"Mad Men is fiction. On cable. Don’t like it? Don’t watch it. You seem to be advocating censorship, yes?"

I'm not advocating anything. I'm merely questioning what this very young actress was told do on camera, and the wisdom of the parents to have their child simulate such an act and in front of so many people no less.

13 posted on 08/24/2010 9:27:45 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Uncle Miltie

I watched part of one episode and I don’t get what the allure of the show is.

The acting, particularly that of the protagonist, is marginal, and the subject matter is so...irrelevant.

The only good reason I can think of to watch the show is Christina Hendricks, and even I’m not that desperate.


14 posted on 08/24/2010 9:28:39 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: OldDeckHand

I watch the show with a one week lag, but I don’t mind the spoiler.

The best scene in the previous episode was when Draper asked his secretary to type her own letter of resignation. They had developed his passive-aggressiveness well.

As for the most recent episode, sexual awakening occurred then for many of us who read FR. I hope they used a double for this little girl.

The era was most interesting, but much of the liberal disease that afflicts us can be traced to 1963-1969. I love the details: the wall hangings, lamps, buzzer to the secretary, typewriters with ribbons, liquor in the office, chain smoking, dead from lung cancer at age 52 etc.


15 posted on 08/24/2010 9:29:33 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Retired Greyhound
The only good reason I can think of to watch the show is Christina Hendricks

You mean the only two good reasons. ;)

16 posted on 08/24/2010 9:29:43 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: OldDeckHand

She was sitting on the couch, fully clothed. The only direction would have been, “Sit there and stare into space”. Nothing was shown. It was all covered in the reaction of the friend’s mother and the subsequent conversation with Betty.

Criticize the subject matter, but don’t imply that Miss Shipka was somehow shown on-screen ‘in the act’.


17 posted on 08/24/2010 9:34:22 AM PDT by Textide
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I like how they juxtapose real events with plot, like Peggy finding about the Kennedy assassination in the middle of a ‘nooner’.
18 posted on 08/24/2010 9:36:05 AM PDT by AU72
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To: OldDeckHand

I was enjoying the precise art direction. However, I got to the place where the characters were so nauseating, that I couldn’t care about them any more.


19 posted on 08/24/2010 9:36:44 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think." Adolph Hitler)
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To: Retired Greyhound
"I watched part of one episode and I don’t get what the allure of the show is."

Perhaps that was the problem - you only watched part of one episode. Broadcast television shows tells stories in 40 minute packages - micro plays. This show, like some of the other better cable dramas, tells several stories over a season(s), like the Sapranos or Deadwood.

I would think if you only watched a few minutes of a heady drama like Mad Men, you probably wouldn't be too impressed except for the set decoration and costuming perhaps. I might also think if you only watched a few minutes of Lawrence of Arabia, or Gone With the Wind, you might wonder what all the hubbub was about there, as well.

20 posted on 08/24/2010 9:38:28 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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