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Apple dominates PC Mag Readers' Choice Awards: Wins notebooks, desktops, phones, PMPs, Wi-Fi
Mac Daily News ^ | Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 03:48 PM EDT

Posted on 09/09/2010 4:54:47 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: PA Engineer

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41 posted on 09/10/2010 7:36:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: dennisw
The difference is who is going to make charitable donations to Jobs and Company

The difference is paying for service. You can technically build your own Aston Martin. People usually buy them though.

I prefer to build an excellent functional PC

I saw the hardware you suggested. That can in no way be called "excellent." You do apparently know how to build an ultra-cheap bottom-of-the-line PC though. Thanks, but I don't play down there.

They'll just have to get along without me

They're crying all the way to the bank over that.

42 posted on 09/11/2010 6:55:02 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: dennisw
OK so Apple was first with DVI and USB ...I knew about USB

Apple wasn't first with USB, as PC motherboards had it before the iMac. Apple was the first to see the future and fully commit to USB, dropping all of the legacy connectors. That Windows had spotty compatibility for USB didn't help its adoption on that side either.

Now Apple repeats, seeing the future in DisplayPort.

43 posted on 09/11/2010 7:06:31 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Mind-numbed Robot; dennisw
Envy is a terrible thing.

You know when I was a kid, looooong time ago, we could never afford something like a Corvette, but we made our old cars go as fast as we could with engine transplants and the like. We could get that sort of get speedy feel at a tenth of the cost, even drag race some of the stock high dollar cars and win, but somehow it just didn't feel the same.

Thunderbird buy Ford, became a luxury car, because it looked so bad at the drag races, against the small block Chevies, let alone Corvettes.

Then Mopar woke up, but that is another story.....

44 posted on 09/13/2010 3:27:04 PM PDT by itsahoot (We the people allowed Republican leadership to get us here, only God's Grace can get us out.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

I saw the hardware you suggested. That can in no way be called “excellent.” >>>>>>>>

It is very excellent. Much more excellent than than faux excellence you buy into whenever you donate to the Cupertino mafia clan ....and buy one of their flimsy aluminum peasant machines. You buy faux excellent. I assemble verified excellence. You should have read the New Egg reviews for the components I mentioned. Just about everyone was happy. Here’s another excellent component I saw going very cheap last week...$19.99 DVD burners that cover everything from DL on down. One was Samsung, the other was LG. New Egg and CompUSA were selling them. Meanwhile duped/hypnotized/gypped/conned Apple buyers pay $100 for a DVD unit in their Mac desktops. That’s not excellence. That’s being ripped off by the Steve Jobs Albanian gangster mafia

This is why all this Apple hoopla is really charitable donations to Steve Jobs and Company. It makes the fanbois & fangirlz feel good when they donate. Nothing else can explain it. It’s like a guy buying a Prius to make an ecological statement. He is donating to Toyota to feel good and so he can brag how ecological he is at cocktail parties and family get togethers. Toyota is happy to take his money and the Cupertino cabal is the same


45 posted on 09/13/2010 4:04:45 PM PDT by dennisw (-He who will not economize will have to agonize----- Confucius)
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To: antiRepublicrat

DiplayPork sounds good but who needs all that video bandwidth? Some clown hooking up his laptop to a 52” LCD TV? On NewEgg there are zero monitors that have a DisplayPork connector. So no great demand


46 posted on 09/13/2010 4:07:11 PM PDT by dennisw (-He who will not economize will have to agonize----- Confucius)
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To: dennisw
DiplayPork sounds good but who needs all that video bandwidth?

Funny. Who needs more than 640K RAM? Who needs more than 1 GB hard drive space? Who needs more than 56 Kb data transfer speeds? People thought DVI was all they needed, until monitors got high-resolution enough that a single DVI link couldn't drive them, requiring the hack of a dual-DVI link.

And it's not just the bandwidth, but the flexibility and cost that make DisplayPort the best standard today. You can even daisy-chain multiple monitors off of one port on your computer.

On NewEgg there are zero monitors that have a DisplayPork connector.

Really? Are you sure about that? Right now I'm looking at an HP ZR24w at Newegg that comes with DisplayPort (not DisplayPork). You need to get your brain checked. The hatred of anything relating to Apple is blinding you.

47 posted on 09/13/2010 9:16:51 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: dennisw
It is very excellent.

A bottom-of-the-line, very inefficient power supply is your definition of "excellent"? A 65% efficient PSU that's loud, hot and has a wildly fluctuating power output? Puhleeeeze!

You just lost any credibility here as a system builder. Any talk of "I can build my own..." is from now on simply laughable. We know what you build -- cheap crap. That in itself isn't bad when that's the goal. The problem is that you think the cheap crap is excellent. You don't even know the difference between quality and cheap parts.

48 posted on 09/13/2010 9:24:15 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

http://www.newegg.com/Product/PowerSearch.aspx?N=100007617&IsNodeId=1&SubCategory=20&GASearch=3 Displayport is not searchable on this newegg monitor search page

When I go to google I find a few displayport monitors at Newegg....but not searchable within newegg. No monitor will show up


49 posted on 09/14/2010 1:32:46 AM PDT by dennisw (-He who will not economize will have to agonize----- Confucius)
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To: antiRepublicrat

That PS is not loud, I own two of them in the real world, not the Mac fantasy world. The reviews are excellent. 65% efficiency is good enuff. Anyway in this thread is a link to a PS that is 85% efficient....was 30-$40 at newegg. So get that one instead

More fake Jobsian “excellence” flies out the window to be exposed as pathetic snobism and one-upmanship. Various bruised egos donating thousands to the Cupertino communist cabal in vain searches for self validation

Apple...home of the $100 DVD writer lol lol lol By the time the dust settles this is how much the fanbois donate to uncle Stevie for a DVD player in their mac desktop


50 posted on 09/14/2010 1:40:59 AM PDT by dennisw (-He who will not economize will have to agonize----- Confucius)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Here is typical stuff the Mac consumer is missing out on-—>>

http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail/sep-0-2010/48hour8gn2/index-landing.html?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL091410&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL091410-_-EMC-091410-Index-_-E0-_-PromoWord

You might notice the Antec 650w Earthwatts at $57


51 posted on 09/14/2010 1:56:07 AM PDT by dennisw (-He who will not economize will have to agonize----- Confucius)
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To: dennisw
but not searchable within newegg. No monitor will show up

Obviously you don't know much about DisplayPort. You aren't qualified to discuss, certainly not qualified to make snide insulting word plays. Come back when you've learned more.

52 posted on 09/14/2010 6:10:29 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: dennisw
That PS is not loud, I own two of them in the real world, not the Mac fantasy world. The reviews are excellent. 65% efficiency is good enuff.

It is louder than equivalents. That you own two is no good evidence since we know your standards are low. And yes a Yugo was good enough for some people too. I said I wouldn't use a $25 PSU. You quoted a $30 PSU that was far below my standards, but apparently fine for you. Good for you, as long as you quit deluding yourself into thinking you're buying quality. At least Yugo buyers weren't hallucinating, thinking they were driving Mercedes.

Apple...home of the $100 DVD writer lol lol lol By the time the dust settles this is how much the fanbois donate to uncle Stevie for a DVD player in their mac desktop

Anybody who knows Apple knows you buy the base system and upgrade from other sources such as Newegg. It's not a "fanboi" issue, it's smart shopping as you'd do from any source.

53 posted on 09/14/2010 6:14:26 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: dennisw

Because I mainly use Macs now, I somehow miss out on monitor, HDTV, memory, hard drive, GPS and SD cards?

But thanks for the heads-up. I needed a larger external USB drive (since I upgraded the one in my iMac to 1.5 TB) for Time Machine backups (oh yeah, you don’t have that on the PC, sorry). I was wanting to put an extra GB of RAM in the iMac too.


54 posted on 09/14/2010 6:30:10 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Anybody who knows Apple knows you buy the base system and upgrade from other sources such as Newegg. It's not a "fanboi" issue, it's smart shopping as you'd do from any source.

When I see today's Macs (laptops and desktops) they all come with something called a super multi-culti drive. What other folks call a DVD writer/player. It comes standard. You can't opt out and save $$$

55 posted on 09/14/2010 6:35:05 AM PDT by dennisw (-He who will not economize will have to agonize----- Confucius)
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To: dennisw
When I see today's Macs (laptops and desktops) they all come with something called a super multi-culti drive.

First, they don't all come with DVD burners. The MacBook Air is too small for an optical drive to fit.

Yes, Apple had the FIRST line of computers that shipped with DVD burners as standard equipment. This was actually a mistake of Apple's, because they didn't also offer just CD burners like most PC makers. They misjudged by a few years how fast people would think CD-only wasn't good enough.

It comes standard. You can't opt out and save $$$

You don't pay $100 for the standard ones. You pay $100 for the additional ones. Like many companies, Apple makes mad profit off of the lazy and ill-informed. And by the way you bragged about your cheap system, you also assume that one DVD drive is standard and shouldn't be omitted, so don't go double-standard on Apple.

56 posted on 09/14/2010 7:20:24 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

My Intelligentsia™ computer has one DVD drive which is all one needs these days. In the old days when DVD writers were expensive you had a DVD writer and a DVD player that was used to play DVDs so as not wear out your writer prematurely by using it as a player


57 posted on 09/14/2010 12:55:37 PM PDT by dennisw (-He who will not economize will have to agonize----- Confucius)
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To: antiRepublicrat
You don't pay $100 for the standard ones. You pay $100 for the additional ones. Like many companies, Apple makes mad profit off of the lazy and ill-informed. And by the way you bragged about your cheap system, you also assume that one DVD drive is standard and shouldn't be omitted, so don't go double-standard on Apple.

Going by how much Jobs&Co charge for Mac desktops my estimate is they are getting $100 for the DVD super drive it ships with

58 posted on 09/14/2010 12:58:34 PM PDT by dennisw (-He who will not economize will have to agonize----- Confucius)
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To: dennisw
Going by how much Jobs&Co charge for Mac desktops

First, you need to compare apples to apples. The iMac is an all-in-one, which are necessarily more expensive than the standard cheap box-o-parts. Let's check out some of the differences between an HP 200xt all-in-one vs. the lowest iMac. I'll build them close where I can and note where they aren't equal.

Wow, the price just got very close to the iMac's. This doesn't count I'm not spending $100+ for HP help setting things up or transfering files where Apple will do it for free at any Apple Store. I also don't get Firewire on the HP and can only upgrade the memory to 8 GB (16 GB for the iMac). You also are missing the unwanted shovelware on the iMac, a "feature" you normally have to pay to not have on a PC. I could have missed some things, but you get the picture. The iMac is a good value when stacked up against the competition.

Now if we're talking desktops, you have to compare the Mac Pro to Xeon workstation specs, not home PCs. Generally it fares well against the competition, coming in at a lower price. And, no, you cannot build one yourself to your standards when one of the two chips in the system goes for over $1,000 at Newegg.

59 posted on 09/14/2010 2:23:53 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Few people need such fancy schmancy over priced computers. In the Sunday paper one of the office supply mega-store had an HP all-one for $479. Had 4gb memory/Athlon X2-215 dual core/18.5 inch LCD

Enough computer for 80% of computer users....they have no need for fantasy Macs at twice the price. If gullible people want to pay more and buy Mac.... Steve Jobs is the PT Barnum of today - “There’s a sucker born every minute”


60 posted on 09/14/2010 5:47:34 PM PDT by dennisw (-He who will not economize will have to agonize----- Confucius)
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