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Zwölftonwerbung - Twelve tone commercial (classical music humor video)
YouTube ^ | April 29, 2008 | uploaded by schoenbergcommercial

Posted on 10/07/2010 10:09:31 AM PDT by EveningStar

Audio: a production, done in 1977 by Robert Conrad, the founder of WCLV classical radio in Cleveland, Ohio, USA. The script was written by conductor Kenneth Jean and Mathias Bamert is said to have had a role in the production.

Video: ascvideo (Arnold Schönberg Center, Wien)

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Humor; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: albanberg; antonwebern; arnoldschoenberg; berg; classicalmusic; schnberg; schoenberg; twelvetone; webern

1 posted on 10/07/2010 10:09:33 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Borges; sitetest

ping


2 posted on 10/07/2010 10:10:32 AM PDT by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: Borges

I think I shared this with you via FReepmail a year or two ago. :)


3 posted on 10/07/2010 10:11:46 AM PDT by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: EveningStar

I don’t know what it’s about but I like it ;-)


4 posted on 10/07/2010 10:16:53 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: EveningStar

Can’t wait for all the “That’s not music” types to show up.


5 posted on 10/07/2010 10:17:31 AM PDT by Borges
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To: EveningStar

LOVE IT !!!!!

Subtract God, the Creator and Arranger of the universe from your world, and all you have is random noise. Master a few ostentatious tricks, and you can be the equal of Alton, Albert, and Igor!


6 posted on 10/07/2010 10:19:07 AM PDT by RJR_fan (Christians need to reclaim and excel in the genre of science fiction.)
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To: Borges

Hello.


7 posted on 10/07/2010 10:50:32 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (Spread the work ethic; the wealth will follow.)
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To: EveningStar; .30Carbine; 1cewolf; 1rudeboy; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 31R1O; ADemocratNoMore; ...
Dear EveningStar,

Thanks for the ping!

Classical Music Ping List ping!

If you want on or off this list, let me know via FR e-mail.

Thanks,


sitetest

8 posted on 10/07/2010 10:55:20 AM PDT by sitetest ( If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: RJR_fan

These composers wrote some great music. You can take lots of stuff out of context and make it sound silly.


9 posted on 10/07/2010 11:00:58 AM PDT by Borges
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To: EveningStar

Thanks for this video. I am reminded how very much I loathed my classes in 12-tone “music.”

(Hated the Prof, too. Mr. “I was at Kent State” elderly hippie.)


10 posted on 10/07/2010 11:03:43 AM PDT by EggsAckley ( There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply!)
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To: EveningStar

12 tone - the delightful music that makes me want to scratch my ears out.


11 posted on 10/07/2010 11:13:54 AM PDT by Flying right
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To: EveningStar

12 tone - the delightful music that makes me want to scratch my ears out.


12 posted on 10/07/2010 11:14:09 AM PDT by Flying right
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To: EveningStar

12-tonally cute...


13 posted on 10/07/2010 11:25:05 AM PDT by Elwood P. Doud
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.


14 posted on 10/07/2010 11:27:29 AM PDT by loungitude ( The truth hurts.)
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To: EveningStar

You just gave me a headache.


15 posted on 10/07/2010 11:39:26 AM PDT by KYGrandma (The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home......)
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To: All

LOL Priceless


16 posted on 10/07/2010 12:21:16 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: EveningStar

Ach! i must Email zat to mine Closet Freinds Immediately!

Zey Vill Appreciate itZo MoocH!


17 posted on 10/07/2010 12:27:49 PM PDT by left that other site (Your MiQ-MaQ Paddy Wacky Bass-Playing Biker Buddy(El Kabong))
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To: sitetest

Thanks, Sitetest! This one cracked me up! Thanks for the Laughs!


18 posted on 10/07/2010 12:40:04 PM PDT by left that other site (Your MiQ-MaQ Paddy Wacky Bass-Playing Biker Buddy(El Kabong))
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To: Borges

Perhaps. But, if Bach were born in, say, 1920, would he have written atonally? I think not...


19 posted on 10/07/2010 12:46:32 PM PDT by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: Pharmboy

Perhaps. But, if Bach were born in, say, 1920, would he have written atonally? I think not...

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Discovery Reveals Bach’s Postmodern Side

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112602288&ft=1&f=1039

apparently, Bach did not need to be born in 1920 to experiment with 12 tone music.


20 posted on 10/07/2010 12:57:53 PM PDT by dmz
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To: EveningStar
About ten tears ago, Robert Conrad, as owner of WCLV, Cleveland's classical radio station and radio home of the Cleveland Orchestra established a foundation that ensures that WCLV will remain a classical station in perpetuity, as a way to prevent the inevitable fate of so many classical radio stations across the country that have been bought out and forced to change format. Kudos to him.

Also, its a real good listen on the net...

http://www.wclv.com/

21 posted on 10/07/2010 1:20:54 PM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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To: EveningStar
Somebody observed that all the modern composers that would have carried on in the traditional classical formats, (symphonies, concertos etc.) are all writing music for films. Some of the stuff here might make good film music.

I create experimental electronic music every bit as odd (or as bad) as this stuff and I have been told that some of it would be good in a film soundtrack.

22 posted on 10/07/2010 1:27:27 PM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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To: Pharmboy

Bach’s music often verged on atonality. Especially the later stuff.


23 posted on 10/07/2010 1:46:00 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

I’m partial to the fugue.


24 posted on 10/07/2010 1:47:41 PM PDT by dfwgator (Texas Rangers - AL West Champions)
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To: Borges

I have a music degree, and I have to say, I was never able to warm up to 12 tone music.....


25 posted on 10/07/2010 3:33:29 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: KYGrandma

Try THIS for a headache: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfBVYhyXU8o


26 posted on 10/07/2010 3:34:32 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Born Conservative

I think you are right. That was the worst “music”??? I have ever heard.


27 posted on 10/07/2010 5:32:54 PM PDT by KYGrandma (The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home......)
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To: Pharmboy

He would not have. Because Bach believed in a Creator who made order from chaos, not chaos. So he, too, wrote in an orderly and harmonic manner.


28 posted on 10/07/2010 8:57:58 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Born Conservative
Well, that was... different.
29 posted on 10/08/2010 2:26:20 AM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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To: dmz
A few bars of atonal music does not an atonal composer make. In Beethoven's last piano sonata, there's a passage that sounds incredibly like boogie-woogie. Big deal...would Beethoven have been a boogie woogie composer if he were born in 1895?

AFAIC, art needs to be enjoyed, and that enjoyment is personal. I have never enjoyed atonal music (and I sure did try); I also tried to enjoy abstract art and cubism, but failed there too.

30 posted on 10/08/2010 7:18:11 AM PDT by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: bboop
Excellent point. The author of this book makes, essentially, the same one but in a more complex manner.


31 posted on 10/08/2010 7:24:25 AM PDT by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: EveningStar

I’m not generally a fan of 12 tone music - had to learn my comp professor’s Piano Sonata in college.

There are examples of listenable serial music however. Keith Emerson (of Emerson Lake & Palmer) wrote a Piano Concerto, the first movement of which is based on a tone row.


32 posted on 10/08/2010 7:40:19 AM PDT by InternetTuffGuy
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To: EveningStar

It’s actually not too bad with the sound turned off...;-)

(That said, I do own the Speakers Corner re-issue 3 LP box set of the Mercury Living Presence recordings of just these composers. They sure made great recordings (technically) back in those days. Puts all the current digicrap to shame.)


33 posted on 10/08/2010 10:46:19 AM PDT by Moltke (panem et circenses)
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To: Born Conservative

I do too. And I hate 12-tone music too. Intellectually they can explain it, theoretically. But it is NOT pleasing and it is NOT beautiful and it is not orderly. Chaotic/ existentialist/ intellectual and theoretical.

Who needs that? Christ in urine is theoretical too.

And???


34 posted on 10/08/2010 1:15:44 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Born Conservative

I do too. And I hate 12-tone music too. Intellectually they can explain it, theoretically. But it is NOT pleasing and it is NOT beautiful and it is not orderly. Chaotic/ existentialist/ intellectual and theoretical.

Who needs that? Christ in urine is theoretical too.

And???


35 posted on 10/08/2010 1:15:48 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Pharmboy

A few bars of atonal music does not an atonal composer make. In Beethoven’s last piano sonata, there’s a passage that sounds incredibly like boogie-woogie. Big deal...would Beethoven have been a boogie woogie composer if he were born in 1895?
AFAIC, art needs to be enjoyed, and that enjoyment is personal. I have never enjoyed atonal music (and I sure did try); I also tried to enjoy abstract art and cubism, but failed there too.

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Could not possibly agree with you more as to the subjective nature of appreciation for the arts.


36 posted on 10/11/2010 7:48:07 AM PDT by dmz
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