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M4 or Other Suggestions Requested
11/11/11 | Camerican

Posted on 11/11/2010 7:47:45 PM PST by Camerican

Looking for advice on M4 alternatives


TOPICS: Hobbies
KEYWORDS: banglist; carbine; emcha; m4
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I'm giving serious thought to purchasing an M4 (civilian). Lot's of manufacturers out there - Colt and Bushmaster, among others. I'd appreciate suggestions as to which manufacturer and model is best, and why. It's been 20+ years since I trained with an M-16 in the Canadian Army Reserve (we called it the C-7). So the M4 seems like a good fit in terms of similar operation and parts. With that said, I'm open to other suggestions in the carbine field. Thanks.
1 posted on 11/11/2010 7:47:50 PM PST by Camerican
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2 posted on 11/11/2010 7:51:59 PM PST by ExGeeEye (Freedom: to say "No!" fearlessly to the Feds, and get away with it.)
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To: Camerican

They’re all pretty good. Buy a lower receiver and parts then assemble the lower yourself. Save money by buying off brand parts. Then splurge on the upper already assembled.


3 posted on 11/11/2010 7:53:02 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre

Sig 556


4 posted on 11/11/2010 7:56:38 PM PST by crghill (You can't put a condom on your soul. Viva Arizona!)
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To: mamelukesabre

Sig 556


5 posted on 11/11/2010 7:58:58 PM PST by crghill (You can't put a condom on your soul. Viva Arizona!)
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To: Camerican

“11/11/11 | Camerican”

I must have been abducted by aliens. I lost a whole year.:)


6 posted on 11/11/2010 8:00:03 PM PST by cajuncow
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To: ExGeeEye

I like Daniel Defense, LaRue and Noveske.

If you want to build your own, check out http://www.bravocompanyusa.com

I’ve heard rumors that Wilson Combat may come out with an upper in 30 Remington (30RAR) which would be great for hunting.

http://blog.wilsoncombat.com/1911/notes-from-bill-another-successful-hunt-hog-hunting-with-the-30-rar-and-45-wilson-custom-ammunition/


7 posted on 11/11/2010 8:00:16 PM PST by smokingfrog (Because you don't live near a bakery doesn't mean you have to go without cheesecake.)
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To: Camerican

Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range. Works for me.


8 posted on 11/11/2010 8:01:45 PM PST by Perdogg (What Would Aqua Buddha do?)
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To: Perdogg

“Hey pal - what you see is what I got.”

- Terminator


9 posted on 11/11/2010 8:05:37 PM PST by FormerRep
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To: Camerican
I think this thread is a PERFECT place for an AK vs AR debate!

(ducks and runs away)

10 posted on 11/11/2010 8:09:30 PM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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Might as well throw Glock v 1911 in there too.


11 posted on 11/11/2010 8:15:27 PM PST by smokingfrog (Because you don't live near a bakery doesn't mean you have to go without cheesecake.)
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To: Camerican

12 posted on 11/11/2010 8:17:14 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Camerican

Ill take a M4 any day I just love them ole Sherman tanks!


13 posted on 11/11/2010 8:17:40 PM PST by crazydad
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To: crghill

The SIG 556 has come down in price so it is a good choice. It provides AR 15 accuracy with AK 47 ruggedness and reliability

The SIG 516 is a great gas piston adaptation of the AR 15

If you are looking for a AR style clone the Spike’s Tactical is a high quality AR for the price as is the Smith and Wesson MP15

Best of all is the new FN SCAR 16s but it is a bit expensive at around $2K

In 7.62 the FN FAL or DSA SA58 FAL replica is hard to beat and highly recommended


14 posted on 11/11/2010 8:18:21 PM PST by rdcbn
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Purpose of having rifle? Hunting? Self Defense?

Where would it be used, especially for self defense? Rural? ‘Burbs? Urban?

Range to probable targets?

Your skills and weapon familiarity?


15 posted on 11/11/2010 8:19:13 PM PST by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR since 1998.)
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To: Camerican

Purpose of having rifle? Hunting? Self Defense?

Where would it be used, especially for self defense? Rural? ‘Burbs? Urban?

Defending house? Appartment? Other?

Range to probable targets?

Your skills and weapon familiarity?


16 posted on 11/11/2010 8:19:58 PM PST by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR since 1998.)
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To: Camerican

Mine is a Bushmaster, M-faux. :-)

I love it. I think Bushmaster makes a quality rifle. But others do, too. The Sig 556 is catching my eye lately.

But be ready for the sticker shock... it’s not just the rifle, but its the optics. The optics will cost more than the rifle. Count on it. I have the Leupold CQ/T on mine and I love it. That lighted reticle, corrected for .223 ballistics... just rocks. But... I also love the Trijicon ACOG. I’m considering getting one.


17 posted on 11/11/2010 8:24:36 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: smokingfrog
Might as well throw Glock v 1911 in there too.

LOL.

For the record, I'm a Glock and AK guy.

18 posted on 11/11/2010 8:25:03 PM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Camerican

Now is a great time to buy an AR rifle. Prices have come down to pre-obama times and even lower. I’ll just throw out a few thoughts.

If you want an M4 style, the mid-length gas system is worth looking at. It improves extraction reliability somewhat by starting the extraction cycle slightly later and thus at a lower pressure. Also, a bayonet will fit properly on a mid length upper, if that matters to you.

I think Bushmaster is slightly overpriced but not really “bad”. Noveske and LaRue seem to be the hot items nowadays. I believe Colt still has the large pins in their lowers so they won’t interchange with anything else. Quality is good though.

I would recommend a wolff extractor spring and rubber O-ring upgrade. A cheap way to add reliability.

Without naming companies, I would avoid going to the bottom of the price tier, unless this is just a plinking rifle. Chrome lined barrels are nice too...

Carry on :)


19 posted on 11/11/2010 8:25:58 PM PST by kamikaze2000 (You can lead a liberal to truth, but you can't make him think.)
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For the record, I'm a Glock and AK guy.

U Da Man

20 posted on 11/11/2010 8:26:15 PM PST by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR since 1998.)
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