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Posted on 12/17/2010 7:18:44 PM PST by B_Simons

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To: B_Simons

I have a few points of contention with socialized medicine here in the USA and they are:

1) The Federal government isn’t authorized by our consitution to do anything outside of the enumerated powers, and health care as well as other social programs are not on the list. According to our 10th amendment social programs are within the scope of power retained by the states and the people. This is probably difficult for a European to understand, but our founders belived that local governments and society itself were best equipped to deal with micro issues and did not empower the central government to act directly upon the people in order to preserve the idea of liberty and freedom from which our founding documents were conceived.

2) Government intervention in the health care market is what drives prices through the roof by disturbing the natural pricing mechanism and injecting market failure with politics which includes the emergence of monopolies, price fixing, and other kinds of inefficiencies. It’s the primary reason health care becomes unaffordable. Providing even more subsidies with tax dollars only drives more waste and inefficiency, and puts people at the mercy of politicians and bureaucrats instead of having the power of the market.

3) Single-payer destroys the market based system all together which also destroys the incentive to provide the best possible care at the best possible price. You get what they feel like giving you when they feel like giving it to you, and if you don’t like that there’s nowhere to go.

4) It gives too much control over what care is provided and under what circumstance to the government and takes it away from the individual.

5) The subject of ‘fairness’ is a red herring. Prior to the government dabbling in our health care system, there were thousands of charity hospitals in the United States that operated on a low to no cost basis. Today, the number of existing charity hosiptals is in the low hundreds and declining. Our government responded to the lack of low cost health care by making treatment necessary when people just show up at an emergency room, and the cost is shifted to those who can pay, either with insurance or out of pocket, making us all unwitting philanthorpists just by purchasing health insurance or services at inflated prices. No one went without care because of inability to pay, not before the government started messing around with the system, and not now.


51 posted on 12/17/2010 8:48:03 PM PST by dajeeps
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To: B_Simons
The answer is, well, blowin' in the wind:

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52 posted on 12/17/2010 8:48:56 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: 50mm
It sure was nice of Brendan to sign up today just to post something so he could see the conservatives get all worked up. He is sitting in his underwear chatting with his DU buddies about how easy it is to waste the time of Freepers.

Notice not one single reply by Mr. Simon to any post on this thread. He's not genuine.

53 posted on 12/17/2010 8:49:07 PM PST by Defiant (There is no line on the march towards marxism that Democrats won't cross. Democrat=CPUSA)
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To: B_Simons
N00b, you look like a homo loving troll playing apologetics at FR:

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Supposedly, according to homosexual sex loving leftist researchers there are 'homosexual' penguins -does this imply that penguins that engage in homosexual sex are suitable for military service?

Are heterosexual penguins more suitable than homosexual penguins?
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54 posted on 12/17/2010 8:51:45 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: B_Simons
What, exactly is the problem with nationalized/socialized healthcare?

I didn't ASK for it.

55 posted on 12/17/2010 8:52:22 PM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

there you are!


56 posted on 12/17/2010 8:57:58 PM PST by Vendome
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To: Vendome

geez... howd that get in there?


57 posted on 12/17/2010 8:58:24 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: markomalley; B_Simons; 50mm
(FYI, take a look at the n00b’s other two posts)

I just did. Kitties need some extra play time, to work out pent up aggression..


58 posted on 12/17/2010 9:00:57 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: A Satanically Transmitted Disease spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus)
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To: Vendome

Hi Vendome! I can’t believe this troll hasn’t gotten ZOT yet....


59 posted on 12/17/2010 9:00:57 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR to pimp your blog!)
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To: MHGinTN; B_Simons

60 posted on 12/17/2010 9:03:16 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Just waiting for his whiny offensive remark and then “ZOT’O!”


61 posted on 12/17/2010 9:04:15 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: Safrguns

LOL


62 posted on 12/17/2010 9:05:13 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis; B_Simons
 

63 posted on 12/17/2010 9:06:45 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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64 posted on 12/17/2010 9:13:00 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Safrguns
Firstly I'd like to apologise if the formatting's messed up, I'm not used to this and it's really late here (first night of the holidays! :D ) Sorry if I came across as a troll, but it's interesting to me that the Right in America is so loudly opposed to it while the majority of the Conservatives in the UK oppose cuts to it. Also none of you answered my questions directly :S Sorry if I'm asking for too much :P

-You are about to see the greatest healthcare system of all time for any nation in this world’s history crash and burn under socialism, and your asking us what’s wrong with it???

I’ll tell you what’s wrong with it...

there won’t be ANYWHERE for ANYONE in the world to go now.

You like your socialized medicine??? Great... Now try to find a doctor worth a damb.

Good luck.

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None of the doctors here are bad, the 'worst' thing is that a lot are from India/nearby countries and have quite strong accents that are difficult to understand :P
I've got a long list of medical issues so I've had a lot of interactions with doctors and none of been bad.
43% of doctors polled in the US have stated that they WILL leave the practice if Obamacare is implemented. That doesn't sound good :S Don't really know what to say to that, where will they go? New private hospitals?

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I’d start by reading this story:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2642404/posts

- So the family could get the treatment but instead opted to pay a large amount for it in the US? I know the NHS messed up but this is much more unlikely to happen when it's not the hospital but the person paying. How many people have paid in America and had the treatment fail?
-should be posted in bloggers&personal or general/chat
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Brendan, please stick around and read around. May I ask why you chose to post this in the GOP section?
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Sorry, didn't realise this was the wrong section. I thought this was for general political themed threads.

-cat picture
- meow! :P

-Socialized medicine and most healthcare insurance programs are unsustainable because they simply cover too much.
...
Imagine what car insurance would costs if it included all of your gas and oil changes.
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So you're saying that it would be sustainable if it covered basic ailments, like common cold, flu, broken bones, easily treatable cancers etc?

I don't like this car analogy, cars aren't a necessity of life, healthcare is


-Liver transplants and the direction of medical research
I would argue that transplants were researched because a) they were special, involved a large amount of skill, and because it was a new and innovative approach to a problem; and b) was a profitable treatment (though necessary). I agree that the research needs to be somewhat independent and we do have our own highly profitable research industry here in the UK. Do these American businesses, or would and unregulated business, go more for what the people want or for what earns them the most money?

NHS/Charity, politicians and taxes.
'People survive because they pay into their own healthcare.'
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But wouldn't more survive if they paid through taxes?

-[exDemMom]
Sorry to hear about your friend's father. My uncle had a minor stroke and wasn't completely happy with his treatment either, though this was nearly 15 years ago now. I wonder why nobody asked for him to be moved in that time though? Usually with enough nagging you can find a doctor who will listen, I don't see how this is a problem with the UK's system, it would have happened if we were private too.

1: I won't argue that the brilliant doctors are more likely to work in a competitive market, but these skilled doctors won't evaporate if it's socialised
2: In America you're paying into for-profit business, in the UK the NHS's budget is spent completely on the NHS. Like you said, you get what you pay for, but why pay 10x the price if it's not 10x as good?

-I’m 54 and was diagnosed with terminal cancer 7 years ago. Medicare took care of my treatment. I am in remission now - and not dead [only God knows why].

If I was on the Obama plan, my oncologist says that I would have been denied treatment altogether - due to the classification of “terminal”.
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Wow, I'm happy to hear that you're recovering! Cancer is common in my family so I'm expecting a diagnosis as I get older, hopefully if I am diagnosed (hopefully not!) I can tell a similar story!

In the UK you still receive treatment regardless of the severity of your cancer. Also, you can pay for private treatment too if you feel it is worth it.

I don't fully know the circumsatnaces of Obama's plan, but I agree that that kind of cost-reward system is wholly wrong.

-So you and your family haven’t been denied a medication yet (that you know of) because it’s expensive. You haven’t had to stand before the death panel yet? Er, I mean Medical Advisory Board..?-

My late grandmother had Alzheimers and MS, I kind of have. However, she was extremely ill and we were hoping that she would pass sooner rather than later as she was in a great deal of pain. She was in a private nursing home where was seen by a GP and my grandfather paid for her medicines. It is possible for 'private' healthcare here, but as the NHS exists there is a standard that those who cannot pay are able to receive adequate treatment without needing to take out loans (the 'death panel' in America I guess is the bank :P )


-EQAndyBuzz's post-

I don't understand, sorry.

-Have you ever been to local office of the Department of Motor Vehicles in the U.S.?-

Not personally but I've seen it on TV shows. Do you really think that it would be that mad? Surely those who already administer it would after it was nationalized?

-Look Brendan. Let me address your asthma. Your inhalers are “free”.

I have asthma too, Brendan. My medicine costs $130 per MONTH that I have to pay for myself, and I am on a fixed income. That is because I and my fellow Americans have to pay for the Research and Development of this wonderful stuff that keeps you and me breathing right. WE here in the States pay for the R&D so you folks in the UK can have it for free. Is that fair?
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I'd say it's a fair trade for penicillin ;) We also have a multibillion dollar medical research industry in the UK. Should our research not be used to help Americans? I'd hate to develop a medicine to cure sick people and it be restricted to only those who come from the country it was made in.

-[Suicidal friend/Waiting list and Bad doctor stories -
Unfortunately this is a genuine problem, however is kind of misrepresented. Suicidal people aren't common, and unless you're looking for a specialist then most things will be seen to quickly. A GP visit is usually in a day or two and you can also often ring for an emergeancy appointment the same day. However, if people are suicidal then the police can be called and they will send the person to some place where they aren't a threat to themselves (even if this is a police prison cell). Glad to hear your friend is OK now, depression is horrible :(
Bad doctors also are around everywhere, however I don't understand what you mean by 'different provider'? You can ask to see a different doctor here, in fact it's common to see a different one from your GP. (This isn't a problem, as all your records and symptoms and stuff are all kept on a computer and can be accessed by any doctor).

-That's an extremely lazy assumption.-
Not really, according to http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/271467.html (not the greatest source, but whatever) then it'd cost at least (!) $1/4million for a transplant. My family couldn't afford that or insurance costs.


-buh bye

(FYI, take a look at the n00b’s other two posts)
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I've two gay friends gay, sorry if I find homophobia offensive.
65 posted on 12/17/2010 9:13:41 PM PST by B_Simons
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To: B_Simons

I have replied guys, it’s just in the pipes at the moment


66 posted on 12/17/2010 9:13:58 PM PST by B_Simons
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To: B_Simons; Vendome
My radar is picking something up!


67 posted on 12/17/2010 9:16:42 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR to pimp your blog!)
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To: B_Simons
I've two gay friends gay, sorry if I find homophobia offensive.

And just like all the other deviants and perverts and their supporters, you lie and dissemble when you label those who from a Moral perspective will not support homosexuality as Homophobic.

Homosexuality is a mental, pychological, and spiritual disease.

You're on the wrong site Troll.
68 posted on 12/17/2010 9:21:12 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Defiant
He is sitting in his underwear chatting with his DU buddies about how easy it is to waste the time of Freepers.

Not worked up or wasting my time. My post was formatted and is saved to a word.doc file. I'm always glad to re-post it to show how much I hate communism and how evil I think it is to rob people of their individual freedoms. IMO the main purpose of 0-Kommie Kare is to replace individual rights with collective rights.

Five snot encrusted DUers may be giggling about this thread but for every one of them 20 lurkers will find a collection of posts with a wealth of information and sound reasoning to repeal 0-Kommie Kare completely.

69 posted on 12/17/2010 9:26:27 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: B_Simons
sorry if I find homophobia offensive.

OP

70 posted on 12/17/2010 9:27:02 PM PST by death2tyrants
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To: 50mm

IBTZ


71 posted on 12/17/2010 9:29:29 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward with Confidence!)
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To: Vendome
awesome
72 posted on 12/17/2010 9:29:31 PM PST by death2tyrants
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To: B_Simons

There is a tragic misconception about the availability of healthcare in America, even among Americans—and it is propagated by the Left.

The fact is that no one is denied healthcare —even expensive healthcare—or turned away from hospitals because they don’t have an insurance policy.

Every local county government (or sometimes cities) has taxpayer-funded hospitals for the poor where treatments are given and costs are based on the ability to pay. No ability, no pay or at most a token payment.

So while many have no insurance policy, they still get their medical needs taken care of through their local taxing authoriity.

Start with that premise and the house of cards of a need for a federal nationwide system funded by additional taxes comes tumbling down.


73 posted on 12/17/2010 9:30:30 PM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: B_Simons

74 posted on 12/17/2010 9:31:10 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward with Confidence!)
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To: vox_freedom

LOL


75 posted on 12/17/2010 9:33:16 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward with Confidence!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
My radar is picking something up!

I think you mean "GAYDAR", in Brenda(n)'s case.

76 posted on 12/17/2010 9:35:45 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: B_Simons
I've two gay friends gay, sorry if I find homophobia offensive.

Bye bye. cherrie oh and that...

77 posted on 12/17/2010 9:36:56 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward with Confidence!)
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To: death2tyrants

I look better than Mark Hamill and Princess Laid Up.


78 posted on 12/17/2010 9:37:04 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: B_Simons
Apparently you have not done much research on the subject of Socialized Medicine and the overall complete and utter failure that it is:

Let's start with the across the board much higher rates of premature deaths as a result of such systems:

Start your reading here for proof.
79 posted on 12/17/2010 9:37:21 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: B_Simons

MadisonChristian, is that you? Where have you been? Haven’t seen you around here for quite some time. Whatcha been up to lately?


80 posted on 12/17/2010 9:38:33 PM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: B_Simons
You won't be lasting much longer I'm sure!

Cheerio old chap!

81 posted on 12/17/2010 9:40:28 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR to pimp your blog!)
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To: Flycatcher
Yeah, I guess so! :)

Man, what is holding up this zot?

82 posted on 12/17/2010 9:41:28 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR to pimp your blog!)
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To: B_Simons

I really liked the reply to your post that suggested that were it not for free market medicine in the US, the technology for your liver transplant would not have even been available.

So I guess quality is relative. Who would you have had to blame if free market medicine never existed?... nobody. You would be dead.

Before you trumpet socialized medicine as acceptable, maybe you should spend some time in a free market. (what’s left of it)

Or, at least spend some time talking with those who have actually lived to see the difference first hand.

I would suggest speaking with Canadians... we get them here all the time and they are apparently more ticked off about this than we are.


83 posted on 12/17/2010 9:44:15 PM PST by Safrguns
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Hey, that was seerious!

Good to see you RedMDer.

84 posted on 12/17/2010 9:53:10 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: B_Simons

Oh Yea, I see Americans just scrambling accross the border to get Socialist Canada Care (sarc). Jackass! Ours works just fine with the free market and no one is turned down. No death panels here idiot. Your whole idea is just to tear down the free market and freedom itself. You are just too stupid to realise that it is also your freedom that you are losing.


85 posted on 12/17/2010 9:55:31 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward with Confidence!)
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To: B_Simons
I've two gay friends gay, sorry if I find homophobia offensive.

Just how offensive do you find it?
And how do you find it?

86 posted on 12/17/2010 9:58:16 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: vox_freedom
Merry Christmas vox! Woo Hoo! We are winning.
87 posted on 12/17/2010 9:59:41 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward with Confidence!)
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To: B_Simons

IBTZ


88 posted on 12/17/2010 10:01:53 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
Man, what is holding up this zot?

The seriousness of penguin homosexuality is, well, serious.

The mods need to consider the seriousness of this issue before zotting.

Please respect the seriousness of penguin homosexuality.

89 posted on 12/17/2010 10:02:49 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: B_Simons
In the UK you still receive treatment regardless of the severity of your cancer. Also, you can pay for private treatment too if you feel it is worth it.

Under Obamacare, if you are not covered by employer's insurance [or buying it on your own] by date certain - you go into the puplic insurance pool. If your employer drops health insurance in the future - go directly into the pool. Same if your insurance carrier goes bankrupt. Once in, if your circumstances improve, you are not allowed to get out. Eventually, everyone will be in the public insurance pool.

That is, all except the unions that gave money to the Democrats, and government employees - they are exempt ...

90 posted on 12/17/2010 10:08:49 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...</i><p>)
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To: TigersEye

You should prepare threads for the people you mention instead of responding to DU day raiders.


91 posted on 12/17/2010 10:30:15 PM PST by Defiant (There is no line on the march towards marxism that Democrats won't cross. Democrat=CPUSA)
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To: B_Simons; Lmo56

Dont forget McDonalds and a whole bunch more entities, over 200 of them have been exempted. Obamacare is so great of a solution to the trumped-up healthcare crisis that even the federal employees are exempt from it. Dumbasses dont realise that the end game is a one payer system and that there will be nothing to be exempt from.


92 posted on 12/17/2010 10:35:32 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward with Confidence!)
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To: Vendome
I look better than Mark Hamill and Princess Laid Up.

Oh yeah, well I look better than Anakin Skywalker....or at least the deformed-looking Anakin at the end of Jedi. ;-)

93 posted on 12/17/2010 10:53:32 PM PST by death2tyrants
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To: death2tyrants

LOL


94 posted on 12/17/2010 11:06:14 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: Defiant

I put my posts on relevant threads all the time. But thanks for the free advice.


95 posted on 12/17/2010 11:16:40 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

Don’t get me wrong, I like what you wrote, but I hate feeding trolls. I’d rather see you do the same thing on a legitimate thread. Otherwise, we just encourage more annoyances.


96 posted on 12/17/2010 11:27:41 PM PST by Defiant (There is no line on the march towards marxism that Democrats won't cross. Democrat=CPUSA)
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To: Defiant

Zot threads are illegitimate? You’re posting on it how is that any different?


97 posted on 12/17/2010 11:42:45 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: B_Simons

What’s wrong with nationalized HC?

http://www.moonbattery.com/cuban_hospital_02.jpg

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/cuba-hospital.jpg

http://cubamatinal.es/__oneclick_uploads/2009/10/hospital-cuba.jpg

That said, I believe the OP to be a DailyKos troll.


98 posted on 12/18/2010 12:29:09 AM PST by Strk321
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To: TigersEye
You are confusing two different things, that I post on a thread, and whether a thread created by a troll to distract or disrupt is "legitimate". My post on the thread does not legitimate it. I think it is fine to post about the coming zot, and sometimes we leave such threads up because they become funny, but to engage a troll who doesn't even bother to come back to the thread to debate is to simply encourage future trolls to come back and do the same. An 80 post thread where the troll doesn't even come back for the discussion means that we have been distracted from other pursuits, to the joy of the troll. If you have something to say that is important, and which other Freepers need to hear, you have better places to provide that information than in a troll thread. IMO.
99 posted on 12/18/2010 12:38:09 AM PST by Defiant (There is no line on the march towards marxism that Democrats won't cross. Democrat=CPUSA)
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To: Defiant

You’re entitled to your opinion. BTW he did come back to the thread.


100 posted on 12/18/2010 12:43:59 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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