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Obamacare Rips Doctor-Patient Relationship Apart
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Posted on 03/27/2010 11:13:42 PM PDT by Chet 99

Updated March 25, 2010

Obamacare Rips Doctor-Patient Relationship Apart

By C.L. Gray, M.D. - FOXNews.com

Unless this legislation is repealed and replaced with fiscally responsible, patient-centered policy, the relationship between patients and their physicians will never be the same.

Ensnared by mountains of detail and overwhelmed by months of endless rhetoric, America never fully understood the profound historical context of the current health care debate. The untold story is that on Tuesday, with the stroke of a pen, President Obama ushered America into an age of post-Hippocratic medicine. Unless this legislation is repealed and replaced with fiscally responsible, patient-centered policy, the relationship between patients and their physicians will never be the same.

With disturbing consistency, the sweep of history reveals that physicians have served one of only two possible roles in society—there is no third alternative. Physicians either follow Hippocrates, remaining free to serve the well-being of the individual patient, or they follow Plato and become servants of the State, compelled to guard the “greater good” of society. This is the battle of our time.

Government compassion sounds so noble, but we cannot escape the fact that whoever pays holds the power to choose. It is here that Washington’s utopian plan falls short. When Washington gains control over the American health care dollar, physicians become employees of the State. When the “collective good” trumps the well-being of the individual patient, the physician’ loyalties become divided.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; healthcare; obama; obamacare; socialism; socialisthealthcare

1 posted on 03/27/2010 11:13:42 PM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99

save for later!


2 posted on 03/27/2010 11:20:01 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: Chet 99

“When Washington gains control over the American health care dollar, physicians become employees of the State”...physicians will be employed at new salary cap valuations. Connecting a few dots results with this not unthinkable scenario:

Individual slaves had and have in todays’world-wide black-market slave markets an assigned market value. Dems believvable can think “Why not assign work values salary caps based on job descriptions to all employees also? After-all, self-employment should be destroyed”...as it is being for solo MDs now. All of the rest of us will follow that model. Labor unions, so valued in marxist systems are so valued by this administration and stand ready as regualtors of such a labor commoditized market. Salary caps are the same function as slave commodity market valuations, and, in our society will be a way of commoditizing all human labor value. Such labor can be securitized too, just like prime and subprime mortgages. Will Gore, Obama and allies form a Chicago Labor Securitization Exchange also? It is possible that a national labor market using securitizations for trading purposes can be established following the model of the Obama, et al, founded, Chicago Carbon Futures Exchange? Imagine, your labor value assumed and regulated and traded on a world-wide basis, just as mortgages!!! You will not know who owns your contract!! Healthcare will be accorded to your worth and longevity in the workFARCE. Expect nothing on your discharge from the workFARCE.

THe middle class is being relieved of its property quickly thru Fannie and Freddie and the Fed Reserve, China now has US eminent domain rights, and the middle class? They (us) are going to be commoditized after their wealth is removed.Just thinking.


3 posted on 03/27/2010 11:22:41 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: Chet 99

It seems ironic that Obamacare purports to put (or keep) people on PRIVATE plans, but establishes the rationing/death panels at the GOVERNMENT level.


4 posted on 03/27/2010 11:23:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Chet 99

“In short, if doctors spend more money on patient care than their peers, the Secretary of Health and Human Services will punish them financially.”

Excellent article. And it’s very true — the “greater good” will trump the needs of individuals, so if you have some disease, that is too costly to treat, just go and buy your casket now.


5 posted on 03/27/2010 11:24:01 PM PDT by SmartInsight (Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote. ~ G. J. Nathan)
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To: SmartInsight

Medicare already did this, but now it’s not just the geezers’ docs that are getting the “stay out of the upper 5% per patient” shaft.


6 posted on 03/27/2010 11:25:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Chet 99
Let me guess.

The only doctor-patient relationship which will remain the same will be when an abortion takes place.

Since abortion is the sacrament of the left and Roe V. Wade has strict regard for privacy between a woman and her doctor, it only stands to reason that a woman getting an abortion will still be afforded that private special relationship with her doctor.

So, something that is not really healthcare will allow SOME people the benefit of a doctor-patient relationship.

Uh huh.

7 posted on 03/27/2010 11:25:22 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


8 posted on 03/27/2010 11:29:59 PM PDT by nutmeg (Bart Stupak: Judas, Neville Chamberlain or Benedict Arnold?)
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To: Chet 99

It will take years for the socialist/marxist plan.

Can we all take a deep breath and concentrate on the Pitt Bull Tyrany issues.... Please.


9 posted on 03/27/2010 11:41:23 PM PDT by Global2010 (We have De Humanized our Society because we have De Christianize our society. Fr.Corapi)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It seems ironic that Obamacare purports to put (or keep) people on PRIVATE plans, but establishes the rationing/death panels at the GOVERNMENT level.

Probably because until the golden goose dies, they can expect far more ridiculous regulations from "private" firms that they reimburse at their leisure than they can from government employees. Most government employees I know have it far easier than those in private employment or individual entrepreneurs.

10 posted on 03/27/2010 11:43:58 PM PDT by BuckyKat
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To: Global2010; Chet 99

How about the pet-veterinarian relationship?


11 posted on 03/27/2010 11:44:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: BuckyKat

Somehow I don’t get a cheery sense that the gummit is going to be as generous now.


12 posted on 03/27/2010 11:46:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Funny you should mention that.

Our now retired vet. was such a good doc on home runs with the pups and humans

LOL With the after effects of rare for KV antibiotics We pulled out the calfing gloves to clean up the hershey gut river flow.

Those gloves were a gift from our vet many years ago...they came in handy.

nuff shared.


13 posted on 03/27/2010 11:52:23 PM PDT by Global2010 (We have De Humanized our Society because we have De Christianize our society. Fr.Corapi)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Govt. medical care already is a death plan.

Obaman just makes it Hip.


14 posted on 03/27/2010 11:53:49 PM PDT by Global2010 (We have De Humanized our Society because we have De Christianize our society. Fr.Corapi)
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To: Chet 99

“When Washington gains control over the American health care dollar, physicians become employees of the State.”

“When the “collective good” trumps the well-being of the individual patient, the physician’ loyalties become divided”

This is not commforting to say the least...sounds like we are headed for assembly-line healthcare.


15 posted on 03/27/2010 11:57:03 PM PDT by caww
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To: givemELL

Well that is a bit more than “just thinking” wouldn’t you say? I think many are in a state of shock and unbelief at all the possibilities that could be with these changes in our nation...and the sense individually we cannot stop this until we vote...it’s watching and realizing the whole arena which is so maddening.


16 posted on 03/28/2010 12:02:37 AM PDT by caww
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To: givemELL

Well that is a bit more than “just thinking” wouldn’t you say? I think many are in a state of shock and unbelief at all the possibilities that could be with these changes in our nation...and the sense individually we cannot stop this until we vote...it’s watching and realizing the whole arena which is so maddening.


17 posted on 03/28/2010 12:02:37 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Healthcare opened the floodgates, November is very far away in regard to the speed and number of changes with which this administration is bombarding the nation with.

Eminent domain given to China as an incentive to continue buying T bills and agency bonds, bodes very ill if the US defaults on its debt, a possibility not unthinkable now, as each dollar borrowed “produces” a NEGATIVE GDP of $.45!! Default may be only two years away. Interpol has been given complete power to operate in the US by the Obama administration exclusive of the US govt. If China has eminent domain rights and we default on our debt, can they sent troops with immunity to protect their equities? Do not depend on the Obama administration to deny them such rights, if they have not been given already.


18 posted on 03/28/2010 12:13:15 AM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Somehow I don’t get a cheery sense that the gummit is going to be as generous now.

I think it will last until the golden goose of private insurance dies off. Gotta make people *think* that working for the gubmint isn't going to be so bad.

19 posted on 03/28/2010 12:24:13 AM PDT by BuckyKat
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To: BuckyKat

Speaking about working for the government...

Bulgarian Doctors to Hold National Strike on April 7

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2481519/posts

The Bulgarian Medical Association has announced that doctors will hold a national strike on April 7, to protest against wage cuts and the government’s health reform.


20 posted on 03/28/2010 12:31:43 AM PDT by SmartInsight (Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote. ~ G. J. Nathan)
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To: givemELL

They better not cap the nurses salaries, those are the people really doing the patient care. The patients would be in a world of hurt without us.


21 posted on 03/28/2010 12:33:02 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Black and Free!!!)
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To: givemELL

I am aware of what you have written in your post though certainly not understanding the deeper workings of it all, but it doesn’t take much to connect the dots and know there are really bad days ahead.

I follow international political moves etc. and quite frankly have not seen a time where so many nations are emboldened the way they are now...taking risks that prior to Obama would not have even been taken and considering them would have been close to their chests. But today it is openly done..and much of the time in our faces!

Yes, if we renig on debt... China can come in and claim the properties....many of which are industrial/manufacturing. The fact people are even looking and discussing this possibility should be a serious headsup to all in our country.


22 posted on 03/28/2010 12:37:39 AM PDT by caww
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To: brwnsuga

WEll, private practice MDs have served as a test bed for salary/labor caps for decades. THeir reimbursements, originally as they billed, were reduced dramatically in Jan. 1991 by draconian amounts (references to the past never mention the great cuts of Jan. 1991 in the surgical subspecialties...they have remained there since..a “L” shaped medical economic depression from which the specialitst have never recovered from. Salaries under new healthcare rules will be fixed as nurses and doctors become vassals administered by the SEIU union, a marxist union from the beginning...do a search on the history of the service employees service union and its marxist connections...it is the largest and most powerful union in the US.


23 posted on 03/28/2010 12:41:05 AM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: Chet 99

And with the presenting of a birth cert. this would all be nullified. Betcha I’m he only one whose thought of that,,the courts sure as hell won’t.


24 posted on 03/28/2010 12:54:36 AM PDT by Waco (Kalifonia don't need no stenkin oil and no stenkin revenue.)
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To: SmartInsight

Yes. Energy policies are not consistent with supporting a population of 300 million people. A sustainable population is very much in mind, if not articulated with actual numbers by the administration. In UK, an MP has publicly articulated that UK must, to be sustainable, shed mort than two thirds of its population in then next few decades (are the Brits reassured?) In addition, on the mortuary side, perhaps “green” recycled egg-crate coffins are envisioned by the Obama administration czars, and not articulated yet, as a corollary saving to be associated by the healthcare bill?

The Obama administration is gearing up to create a religious desire for bicycle use...some commutes can be immediately envisioned as very long and sometimes impossible. Expect a higher death rate and dramatically slowed economy with bicycle use.


25 posted on 03/28/2010 1:33:16 AM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: Chet 99
...America never fully understood the profound historical context of the current health care debate.

I have been trying to point that out for months. This will start to carry over into every other occupation too. It has already begun to spin off from HCR into other industries.

Democrats threaten companies hit hard by health care bill

Whose right is health care? Do you think it's yours?

Congressman Anthony Weiner has said that health care is not a commodity. If it isn't a commodity then do doctors and nurses have rights? Assigning health care the status of a right makes health care workers slaves to that right who must serve it. On what ground could a health care worker refuse to provide their products and services since that would violate the patient's "basic human right to health care."

That is a direct loss of individual rights for health care providers. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set fees and hours or to change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge if taken to its logical extreme. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is created and given by the government to those it chooses to give it to. It is not a natural right possessed by each person protected by the Constitution from the government. It is also a collective/state right by virtue of the fact that it would supersede individual rights when the two come into conflict. How else would the government view a right that it created and administers vs. one it has no control over?

Of course it isn't stated in any bill that a patient's right to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights, as always, are adjudicated in the courts. The Health Care Reform bills simply establish the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the collective right.

Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it has to be described as being a right of the many instead of the one and superior due to that fact. Fascist because ultimately the sole authority for its creation and oversight is from one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the enforcer of this collective right as well. State and local jurisdictions will have little say about it.

Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of all of the Health Care Reform legislation in the House and Senate. Consider this section in the Senate version of the bill; the setting up of community watch dogs that will monitor citizens for various health parameters. Read pages 382 - 393.

TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS pps 382 - 393

So, even citizens themselves will be subject to Federal regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the "human right" of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the government's control over its own health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights? Someone will be checking your lifestyle, according to gov regulations, to be certain you serve the best interests of the "basic human right to health care" ie. "the Public Option."

HCR is not just about rationing care and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist "basic human right to health care" spreads throughout the legal and political systems like a virus.

I think that the main purpose of Health Care Reform (HCR) is as a direct assault on individual liberties.

Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim Dunkin

Another Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right

Involuntary Medical Servitude

Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal

Defining A Right In America

To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right

OBAMA: HEALTH CARE DESTROYING FREE SPEECH

Mandated health insurance threatens freedom, privacy

Bad Laws and Unintended Consequences, part 1.

Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)


26 posted on 03/28/2010 1:37:54 AM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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To: neverdem

ping


27 posted on 03/28/2010 3:17:42 AM PDT by raybbr (I hate B(ig) H(ead) Obama)
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To: brwnsuga
They better not cap the nurses salaries, those are the people really doing the patient care. The patients would be in a world of hurt without us.

I keep warning my wife this is coming and she has the same feeling as you.

I tell her they don't care. They simply want control. They don't care if millions of non-minorities die.

There are provisions in the bill to force medical, nursing schools and teaching hospitals to hire and train "staff to represent the local demographics". Almost every hospital I know is surrounded by and located in low income, mostly minority areas.

They are going to be forced to turn welfare mothers into nurses and the local street corner thugs into doctors. It's also about reparations. Obama and his handlers have been looking for this chance their whole lives.

Unless we rebel they will get their way.

28 posted on 03/28/2010 3:27:55 AM PDT by raybbr (I hate B(ig) H(ead) Obama)
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To: Chet 99
Here in Central Florida they are still running commercials for the ZERO HC Bill. Not sure why they are still running unless the local stations had to run them "X" number of times to get paid for them.
The commercial says "You can keep the doctor you have now". It further states that nothing will change for most people. Only the POOR who don't have insurance will notice any changes.

IT IS 100% LIE

29 posted on 03/28/2010 3:32:05 AM PDT by DeaconRed (REPUBLICANS: You are going to get another chance. Don't BLOW this one. This will be IT.)
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To: Voter#537

Nothing will change for most people until 2014 when Obama is in his second term. This is part of the brilliant plan. Through the November election the sheep will be repeatedly told, “See nothing has changed.” Once amnesty passes and 30 million new Democrats hit the voter rolls, plus their extended families come streaming in adding another 40-50 million new Democrats, the game will be finished.


30 posted on 03/28/2010 3:39:39 AM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: Chet 99

This is the war of Obama and Harvard Law School against
American medicine.

Evil they are.


31 posted on 03/28/2010 4:19:54 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Chet 99

“Physicians either follow Hippocrates, remaining free to serve the well-being of the individual patient”

Funny thing, just about everyone I’ve debated with on universal healthcare has said that the Hippocratic oath requires doctors to give away their skills.


32 posted on 03/28/2010 4:48:01 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("Need has never produced anything. It has only been an excuse to steal from those with ablity.")
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To: Chet 99

Becoming a doctor or nurse these days is expensive. My daughter has 10 months left to get her RN. She also has about $75K of student loans. A dentist she used to date had $200K in student loans. Health care professionals have to charge enough to pay off their education debts, and also establish their businesses and buy the tools of the trade. There isn’t anyway they can even break even under Obamacare.


33 posted on 03/28/2010 4:58:18 AM PDT by BuffaloJack ("When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Chet 99

Unless this legislation is repealed and replaced with fiscally responsible nothing will get better tic tic tic tic NOVEMBER,unless Obama&Co. change voting laws they wouldn’t do that would they?.


34 posted on 03/28/2010 5:00:13 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Chet 99

Doctors and H/C workers have not spoken out and loudly. They should have been the ones marching on Washington. When I told my doctor I was going, he didn’t have a clue, or he acted like he didn’t.

His office staff didn’t either. Like most of America, they are too busy to keep up.


35 posted on 03/28/2010 6:00:15 AM PDT by jch10 (Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war...)
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To: raybbr

Whoa, whoa, whoa..... how did this become an issue of race. I’m speaking as a health care professional, who just happens to be black, about the level of care that patients will get if there are NOT ENOUGH nurses or if the NURSES SALARIES were capped. That had nothing to do with race. AND wouldn’t it be a positive thing if welfare mothers were educated enough to be nurses. They would not be on the public dole.

The registered nurse goes through a very rigorous curriculum learning body systems, pathologies, treatments, medications and their actions and alterations in body systems. It is not just about handing out pills and changing bandages. The nurse is the one who saves you when the doctors are no where to be found.

And if local street corner thugs are turned into doctors, wouldn’t that be a positive thing if they gave up their old ways and contributed to society?


36 posted on 03/28/2010 7:01:24 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Black and Free!!!)
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To: BuffaloJack

Wow, that beats my balance by about $50K, but I had tuition assistance due to my husband’s military service. My degree was well worth the money, though.


37 posted on 03/28/2010 7:04:24 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Black and Free!!!)
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To: Soul of the South
I don't think his plan is going to work.
I think it is going to BACKFIRE BIG TIME
A lot of people think he is smart, a lot of idiots thought SLICK was smart. ZERO & SLICK are not smart. They think they are and some people bought into their "HOOKY JUNK".
Hooky Junk is a Cajon thing. Yes I am part coon ass and proud of it. For people who don't know what a coon ass is, it has nothing to do with Race. It is a Louisiana Cajon.
38 posted on 03/28/2010 7:17:09 AM PDT by DeaconRed (REPUBLICANS: You are going to get one more chance. Don't BLOW it this time. This will be IT. . . .)
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To: brwnsuga
Whoa, whoa, whoa..... how did this become an issue of race. I’m speaking as a health care professional, who just happens to be black, about the level of care that patients will get if there are NOT ENOUGH nurses or if the NURSES SALARIES were capped.

I, too know exactly how bad it will get under salary capping.

My post is NOT about race. It is about how the BILL makes it about race.

That had nothing to do with race. AND wouldn’t it be a positive thing if welfare mothers were educated enough to be nurses. They would not be on the public dole.

Again, I did not make it about race. Yes, it would be positive. The point again is that the bill forces med/nursing schools to make it about race by profiling both the neighborhoods and the students to find out how best to match the local population and the patients, with new med/nursing students. That goes far beyond affirmative action.

The registered nurse goes through a very rigorous curriculum learning body systems, pathologies, treatments, medications and their actions and alterations in body systems. It is not just about handing out pills and changing bandages. The nurse is the one who saves you when the doctors are no where to be found.

I know. My wife is nurse. I know exactly what nurses go through.

And if local street corner thugs are turned into doctors, wouldn’t that be a positive thing if they gave up their old ways and contributed to society?

Pipe dream.

39 posted on 03/28/2010 7:43:48 AM PDT by raybbr (I hate B(ig) H(ead) Obama)
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To: raybbr; brwnsuga

raybbr is right. There was an article here a few weeks ago about the bill lowering standards to get into and graduate from medical school for minorities. Affirmative action for doctors. I am as happy as anyone can be to see people improve their lives but I think the implications of that on the standard of care that will result are pretty clear.


40 posted on 03/28/2010 8:10:27 AM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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To: Chet 99

BTTT!


41 posted on 03/28/2010 8:23:48 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: raybbr

All I can do is shake my head, you must be a generation or two ahead of me.


42 posted on 03/28/2010 8:44:20 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Black and Free!!!)
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To: TigersEye

I hope the bill will not lower the standard of care or it will cause more problems than it is supposed to be solving. I believe it will cause more problems anyway ...but lowering the standards does not do anything to help all these new patients on the rolls.


43 posted on 03/28/2010 8:47:00 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Black and Free!!!)
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To: brwnsuga
Well, no, it certainly doesn't. You must be aware of the poll of doctors that said 46% would retire if the bill was passed. Even if only 10% retire that would be a problem. Add to that the alleged 30 million uninsured receiving insurance even if it has to be subsidized. I heard a Democrat apologist on Fox say that "there won't be more people getting care, they already get care through charity services, ..." (I thought their talking point was that 45,000 per year die because they don't get care??? anyway...) "they will just be insured now."

She was basically right, almost everybody does get care now. But! those who get care through charity, emergency rooms, Medicare, Medicaid, etc, are limited in how much they can take advantage of that. With full insurance they can schedule appts for anything their little hearts desire. The will be just like "rich" people who can go to the doctor or clinic anytime they want to. Or so they will think. A lot of people who paid out of pocket or had limited private insurance will also feel that they are now free and entitled to see a doctor/clinic/whatever as often as they like. Every hypochondriac in the country will be in seventh heaven.

I expect that once the program gets going they will lower standards and increase subsidies for everyone and anyone to get into health care. Given the time it takes to educate new health care workers, particularly doctors, I also expect a big push to import foreign help.

44 posted on 03/28/2010 9:24:56 AM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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To: TigersEye

But! those who get care through charity, emergency rooms, Medicare, Medicaid, etc,

I volunteer at a free local clinic as a triage nurse. I had a patient last week seeking treatment for some serious chronic ailments who....wait for i..., still goes to the tanning bed and had some very lovely breast implants that I had to put a 12-lead EKG monitor around. She finds the funds for tanning, because I suspect she is chronically tan, but she cannot find the monthly premiums for healthcare. I said “girllll, you almost dark as me!”. She giggled and said, “yes, I went to the beds this morning.” This lady and many like her who don’t really prioritize properly, is who will be covered under Obamacare.


45 posted on 03/28/2010 11:20:49 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Black and Free!!!)
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To: brwnsuga
I said “girllll, you almost dark as me!”

ROTFLOL That ... is ... funny.

Aye yai yai! the things we do for vanity's sake. It is really something that so many people can bemoan their "poverty" in America when the average person enjoys luxuries that would blow the minds of Emperors of old. That is not to say that poverty does not exist here but ... the priorities of a lot of us is jaw dropping.

I don't want to leave you with the feeling that all is lost. It's not my intention to be discouraging. Especially since you're a healer. Law now or not there are still many hurdles before this legislation is reality. But it's an evil. An evil on our liberties, our economy and to our health care system. I just see no redeeming value in it and have to speak out against it as much as I can.

46 posted on 03/28/2010 11:43:52 AM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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