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VANITY: Request for Travel Advice for Winter Road Trip
FR | 2010-12-18 | rabscuttle385

Posted on 12/17/2010 10:38:59 PM PST by rabscuttle385

I am contemplating making a road trip in January to visit friends out in Middle America. This thread is to solicit advice from fellow FReepers on winter travel in the West.

See the map below for my planned itinerary.

A few things to consider...

Any other advice, especially considering the portion of the route that's in Colorado, New Mexico, and Arizona? Any cool places to see?


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Outdoors; Travel; Weather
KEYWORDS: advice; roadtrip; vanity
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To: rabscuttle385
I suggest you take the southern route.

And when you reach Pinal County, Arizona, shoot point-blank in the head the bastards who killed our border patrol agent there.

21 posted on 12/17/2010 11:01:50 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Flycatcher

Amen to that.


22 posted on 12/17/2010 11:03:54 PM PST by unkus
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To: rabscuttle385

Just be really careful. Leave a huge amount of stopping distance.

We left way more than we needed on our last winter trip, but even that didn’t help us on a sheet of ice when the car in front of us flipped.


23 posted on 12/17/2010 11:04:37 PM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: digital-olive; unkus
Also keep in mind that all-season tires does not apply to the rockies. Get winter tires.

...or I could move my northern route further south by getting off I-70 West at Columbia, Mo. (friends @ Mizzou), thereby eliminating Denver, and driving across Mo. to I-44 South towards Okla. City and then taking I-40 West towards Albuquerque. Then, I could get a rental car in Albuquerque with winter tires and take a two-day run up to Durango. (It's probably cheaper than buying a full set of winter tires for my car, since we never have any real reason to use them here in the DC area.)

Actually, this might work, since I'd have an added opportunity to stop over at Wilson's Creek (Mo.) and maybe Pea Ridge (Ark.) for a day or two.

24 posted on 12/17/2010 11:04:54 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

See Salida. Its in the mountains west of Pueblo and it can be compared to the Swiss Alps. Its free of crime and has a temperate climate year around, thanks to the mountains that surround it on all sides. The “Banana Belt” of CO should be on your sight-seeing stops!


25 posted on 12/17/2010 11:05:56 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: rabscuttle385

A tom tom GPS is also a good nav aid in heavy big city traffic.

AAA good.

Emergency kit good.

Maybe add couple cans of fix a flat to back up that long AAA wait.

Cable chains for surprise snow storm.

Subscribe to XM or Sirrus Sat radio so tunes an news is always there.

Load up your smartphone with tunes an podcasts an get a cord to link it to car stereo and ear buds as well.

Good bubba mug for beverage with a good cup holder.

Quality sunglasses an holder for em.

Okole seat covers.....

An of course....CHL / CCW tool for protection.

Enjoy. Stay Safe.


26 posted on 12/17/2010 11:06:14 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: rabscuttle385

Hwy 50 is very gentle on a car and you DO NOT need snow chains even in the winter. If there is snow, drive with caution.


27 posted on 12/17/2010 11:07:49 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: rabscuttle385

I think that would work and save you some cash.


28 posted on 12/17/2010 11:09:44 PM PST by digital-olive
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To: rabscuttle385

Btw when ya get down in San Antonio go to the old bar in the Menger hotel. That’s where Teddy Roosevelt recruited rough riders.

Good history stop with a shot of crown an steak.


29 posted on 12/17/2010 11:10:08 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: rabscuttle385

Both Wilson’s Creek and Pea Ridge are worth the time, but they both likely have more restricted hours this time of year.

I-44 to I-40 should be an easily workable route.


30 posted on 12/17/2010 11:12:07 PM PST by FourPeas (From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. Ja 3:10)
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To: rabscuttle385
Well, this is a tentative schedule.

I can't know your circumstances, but I would rather take the PTO for this trip in summer. There are many reasons. Driving in winter is more dangerous even if you know the route. On some days weather may be just too bad to drive safely, and it's too late to change the course. Then you won't see much in places where snow covers the ground. Then you need to carry clothes for all kinds of weather, considering that you will be all over the place, and a winter survival kit. So if technically you can get from point A to point A through point Z, it won't be much fun.

You probably also need a set of chains too, unless you are very sure that you won't find yourself where they are mandatory.

31 posted on 12/17/2010 11:12:32 PM PST by Greysard
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To: rabscuttle385

You are routing through the Blue Mountains of Virginia.

I have been in there and got hit by the same storm 14 times.

Storms have a habit of getting stuck in there and bouncing around. You would have to see it to believe it.

Me personally, I would go back through Ohio and through Cincinnati rather than trying to shoot down through all those mountains in the Wintertime.

Most of your route that I have knowledge of along the southern United States is fine. I don’t know anything about your route through Colorado.


32 posted on 12/17/2010 11:15:36 PM PST by dila813
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To: All
New itinerary:

(I have no qualms about doing 800-850 miles a day on some stretches, e.g., Northern Virginia to St. Louis, if the weather is good, and I'm sufficiently well-rested. I have done it before.)

+Added up to 15 days.

+Albuquerque to Durango is by rental car with snow tires.

33 posted on 12/17/2010 11:18:56 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Greysard
but I would rather take the PTO for this trip in summer

I could do that, but then I'd have to schedule the trip around Memorial Day or Independence Day rather than MLK Day, in order to gain the additional three day weekend, and I'd rather not do that as Memorial Day and Independence Day are very popular road trip times for most folks.

34 posted on 12/17/2010 11:20:55 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

Carhenge in Alliance, NE. Yeah, I know...it isn’t on your route, but I thought I’d let ya know.

http://www.carhenge.com/


35 posted on 12/17/2010 11:21:22 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Sounds like a pretty good plan. The drive between Alb. and Durango isn’t anything to write home about though. But once in Durango, which is in The Four Corners area, there is a lot to see. You could spend a week here in the summer and you’d still have more to see of the area. This is “big country”. Deserts, lakes, mountains, etc.


36 posted on 12/17/2010 11:21:44 PM PST by unkus
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To: FourPeas
Both Wilson’s Creek and Pea Ridge are worth the time, but they both likely have more restricted hours this time of year.

If they are anything like Shiloh, they will be empty and quiet. (I visited Shiloh last January.) Well, except for the ghosts. I don't mind them; I'll just make sure I'm not wearing a grey shirt and blue jeans like I did at Antietam last summer. (It's not a good idea to take a walk by yourself on the Antietam Creek wooded trail in the late evening while wearing the colors of both sides' uniforms.)

37 posted on 12/17/2010 11:25:19 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: unkus
The drive between Alb. and Durango isn’t anything to write home about though.

No, but the cute girl who works in Durango is. ;)

38 posted on 12/17/2010 11:26:45 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: dila813
You are routing through the Blue Mountains of Virginia.

I live in the foothills of the Blue Ridge.

I-81 is a boring drive through the Shenandoah.

I am definitely avoiding I-68 from Hagerstown/Hancock to Morgantown though. That road is hell--it's worse than I-64/I-77 through Charleston and Huntington--in the snow.

39 posted on 12/17/2010 11:28:37 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Carhenge in Alliance, NE.

I was in the Badlands and at Rushmore in May. If we had known about Carhenge then, we would definitely have detoured.

40 posted on 12/17/2010 11:29:38 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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