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The Basic Non Evolution of Modern Man

Posted on 12/25/2010 4:00:25 AM PST by wendy1946

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To: Notary Sojac

“And if we choose not to believe that, there is no particular reason to believe anything else in the Bible, including the life and resurrection of Christ.”

Universe in 7 days,, if you don’t believe that, it doesn’t follow logically that you should throw it away. It only means you arent a candidate for an inerrency branch of Christianity. This means you could fit easily into the huge majority of Christians who recognize that the Bible contains a lot of allegory, poetry, and symbolism.


41 posted on 12/25/2010 11:57:34 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: wendy1946
Your willful ignorance of science is sad, and still many of the history denying anti-science crowd wonder why everybody else mocks them…

Examples of recent human evolution Link

42 posted on 12/25/2010 2:38:00 PM PST by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: ml/nj; SoftwareEngineer
Good point. Then there are the gang who believe the Bible is absolutely correct when it says God planted a garden in Eden ~ so he stopped by the Intergalactic Plant Shop on his way to Earth.

A simple dichotomy or bifurcation doesn't deal with the more reasonable explanations, Panspermia being one!

43 posted on 12/25/2010 4:52:32 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Notary Sojac

That would be a couple of hundred Christians ~ may I recommend to you a larger congregation or two ~ really. Almost NO ONE believes the 6,000 year thing, particularly not Christians.


44 posted on 12/25/2010 4:55:50 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Moonman62
And "epigenetics" which bypasses the internal DNA structure completely!

You could take something like a fruit fly and by turning on some genes, turning off others, bypassing some (for later), and short circuiting others into working with yet a different gene to make a totally new protein or enzyme, and show up with an Elephant or an Eggplant.

All you need is time and patience, as well as a really in-depth understanding of how each gene works, how the DNA sequences within a chromosome can be made to work with each other, and a whole lot of other stuff we can only now begin to imagine.

It was the first inklings of "epigenetics" that led me to the wholly uninformed conclusion that LIFE was so incredibly complex that somewhere in the body of the DNA strands there must be something akin to quantum level super computers and we'd eventually find them ~ and, oh BTW, that'd make LIFE so complex that it must certainly have originated BILLIONS of universes ago ~ a mere 13.0 billion years just isn't enough for that sort of thing.

45 posted on 12/25/2010 5:09:09 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ansel12
Libertarians are very much the traditionalists on life/death issues and, in general, hold to the ancient doctrine that if it moves it's edible.

I'm not sure that's compatible for leading a peaceful life in any human community.

46 posted on 12/25/2010 5:14:12 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: DesertRhino

Getting rid of the theory of evolution is not a parlor game. There are upwards of two hundred million dead bodies lying around on account of ideological doctrines for which evolution was the basic philosophical corner stone. It’s past time to get rid of it.


47 posted on 12/25/2010 7:22:14 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: Notary Sojac

If you’re rejecting Christ because of someone’s opinion, you’re missing Christ entirely. It’s about Him. Learn about Him and reject or accept Him on His attributes...not someone else’s opinion of what you should or shouldn’t believe about Him.


48 posted on 12/25/2010 7:40:53 PM PST by dubyagee (Thrilled to be here...)
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To: PIF

” ... Look at what happened in physics when James Clerk Maxwell’s 200 quaternions (vector equations) were radically deformed and changed into (field equations) by Oliver Heaviside. We got modern electromagnetic theory, but no on has ever gone back to the original 200 quaternions (AFAIK) ... “

Some have argued that much was lost by Oliver Heaviside’s vector field equation treatment. Just saying
Do you know of a accessible source for Maxwell’s original 200 quaternions?


49 posted on 12/25/2010 9:04:21 PM PST by J Edgar
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To: J Edgar

Do you know of a accessible source for Maxwell’s original 200 quaternions?

No. Probably in some University library.


From a review of Five of Maxwell’s Papers [Kindle Edition]:
“Unfortunately, most people today, even professional Physicists like myself, have never come across any of Maxwell’s writings in their original form. This is primarily due to the fact that even though the content of the physical theories has not really changed, our understanding of them has significantly evolved. Furthermore, there has been a tremendous amount of standardization in mathematical and conceptual formalism over time, and some of the older scientific articles have become quaint in their use of language, or in some cases even unintelligible.”

There are some James Clerk Maxwell books on Amazon; try searching major Univeristy libraries; else trip of England may be in order.


50 posted on 12/26/2010 4:50:16 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: J Edgar
BTW JCM’s field theories apparently say things like: space can be folded easily - step from here to anywhere in the universe; power for anything is limitless - in short some very modern scifi stuff. And those are just two.

I will point out that to others reading this that these are only theories not the machinery needed to make those things occur.

51 posted on 12/26/2010 4:56:11 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: SunkenCiv; centurion316; blam; JRandomFreeper; Jim 0216; The Comedian; Tax-chick; ...

fyi


52 posted on 12/26/2010 5:52:40 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: ansel12

pig. wrestle. no.


53 posted on 12/26/2010 7:04:16 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Imagine the parade to celebrate victory in the WoT. What security measures would we need??)
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To: DesertRhino
This means you could fit easily into the huge majority of Christians who recognize that the Bible contains a lot of allegory, poetry, and symbolism.

On Free Republic at least, I am convinced that those Christians are increasingly zot targets.

54 posted on 12/26/2010 7:07:14 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Imagine the parade to celebrate victory in the WoT. What security measures would we need??)
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To: wendy1946

Are you pinging me to comment on this nonsense so I can be zotted? I find the science of evolution to be generally convincing so zot away.


55 posted on 12/26/2010 7:56:56 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA
"Are you pinging me to comment on this nonsense so I can be zotted? I find the science of evolution to be generally convincing so zot away."

Merry Christmas. I feel the same.

56 posted on 12/26/2010 8:04:47 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

And a Merry Christmas to you too Blam!!


57 posted on 12/26/2010 8:22:15 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA
Not inerested in zotting anybody, just trying to eliminate the false ideological doctrine of evoloserism from the planet...


58 posted on 12/26/2010 8:54:05 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: SoftwareEngineer; Kevmo
"“Believe in Science” is a phrase. At the end of the day, the reason it is NOT a religion is that it has no fixed precepts."

Oh, it does too. It has one fixed precept. Philosophical naturalism is assumed 'a priori'. Absolutely every 'scientific' theory that follows is based on that one assumption.

Religion is simply a broad term for the philosophy that assumes that the supernatural is real and includes the natural. Science is simply the broad term for the philosophy that assumes that the natural is all that exists.

"It “evolves” (to use a phrase) based on our knowledge."

Reminds me of good old-fashioned Gnosticism applied to the philosophy of naturalism.

59 posted on 12/26/2010 9:14:40 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan

To the greatest extent I’ve ever been able to determine, God works entirely within the laws of physics, assuming that you include plasma physics in the term “physics”. If you want miracles and gross violations of mathematical and probabilistic laws you need to be talking to the evolutionites, they specialize in that sort of thing.


60 posted on 12/26/2010 11:10:19 AM PST by wendy1946
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