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Garry Owen
Jan 11, 2011

Posted on 01/11/2011 12:42:42 PM PST by perfect stranger

Many years ago my Grandmother gave me a sewing kit that I did not look into until today and I found this inside.

I am beginning my search for what it might be right now and I expect this is as far as I need to go, but I'll also google and bing what it might be.

Surely it is from the military? I guess that because many on Mom's side of the family were in the Navy.

Thanks for any more information you can provide.


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: garryowen; vanity

1 posted on 01/11/2011 12:42:49 PM PST by perfect stranger
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To: perfect stranger

It’s the Regimental Crest of the US Seventh Cavalry.


2 posted on 01/11/2011 12:44:28 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: perfect stranger

(Oops, that's Gary Owens...)
3 posted on 01/11/2011 12:45:42 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: perfect stranger

7th Cav - Army


4 posted on 01/11/2011 12:45:48 PM PST by PeteB570 (Islam is the sea in which the terrorist shark swims. It aids & comforts the shark on it's journey.)
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To: perfect stranger

Garry Owen is the song of the old US 7th Calvalry, now the 1st Cavalry stationed out of Fort Hood.


5 posted on 01/11/2011 12:46:09 PM PST by wideawake
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To: perfect stranger
It's also know as a DI, (Distinctive Insignia), if the back has a folding pin and latch (not a straight pin and a clutch), then it's probably fairly old.
6 posted on 01/11/2011 12:46:52 PM PST by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: perfect stranger

that is the 7th Cav Reg insignia

It is (or was) worn on the shoulder tab of their uniform


7 posted on 01/11/2011 12:46:59 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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To: perfect stranger

that is the 7th Cav Reg insignia

It is (or was) worn on the shoulder tab of their uniform


8 posted on 01/11/2011 12:47:08 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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To: perfect stranger

that is the 7th Cav Reg insignia

It is (or was) worn on the shoulder tab of their uniform


9 posted on 01/11/2011 12:47:15 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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To: perfect stranger

Garry Owen pin 7th cavalry US Army. Worth 3.99 on ebay.


10 posted on 01/11/2011 12:47:18 PM PST by afnamvet (Patriots Rising)
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To: perfect stranger

Garry Owen was associated with the 7th Calvary Regiment.

Camp Garry Owen covered just over 64 acres and was home to 4th Squadron, 7th Cavalry Regiment, including the Headquarters and Headquarters Troop, A Troop, B Troop and C Troop. Its primary mission was to provide Cavalry support for 2nd Infantry Division. The population of the camp was approximately 800, with 650 of that being US Military personnel and 130 being civilians employed by the Department of the Army. Camp Garry Owen was located near Camp Howze, and the closest urban center was Munsan, located 1.5 miles from the facility with a population of 60,000. Camp Garry Owen was 26.5 miles from Seoul. Its climate features included, on average, summers between 80 and 90 oF, winters between -5 and 30 oF, and 40-48” of rain during a rainy season between July and August.

Camp Garry Owen was reactivated as a site name, the site being formerly known as Camp Pelham. Camp Pelham was located 8 miles from the demilitarized zone that separated the Republic of Korea and US forces from more than a million North Korean troops. Units included the Bradley-equipped Troop A, 5-17th Cavalry, A Battery, 1-4th Field Artillery, as well as the 2nd Eng Battalion, 2nd Infantry Division. During January and February 1971, the 6th Battalion, 37th Field Artillery (+) moved from Camp Pelham to Camp Essayons to provide more responsive support to the Division. The 1st Battalion, 15th Field Artillery was stationed at Camp Pelham with the 2nd Infantry Division in defensive positions. With a change of mission for the 2nd Infantry Division, the Battalion moved to Camp Stanley in February 1971.

Camp Garry Owen North was one of the 42 camps north of Seoul authorized Hardship Duty Pay of $150 per month as of 1 January 2001. The Hardship Duty Pay is paid to troops who are permanently assigned to areas where it is authorized or who serve 30 consecutive days of temporary duty in those areas. Several factors are considered in determining whether a location qualified for the pay: climate, physical and social isolation, sanitation, disease, medical facilities, housing, food, recreational and community facilities, political violence, harassment and crime. The extra pay provides meaningful financial recognition to troops assigned in areas where living conditions are substantially below US standards.

“Garry Owen” was an old Irish quickstep that could be traced back to the 1800s. It was known to have been used by Irish regiments as a drinking song. The story goes that one of the Irish “melting pot” members of the 7th Cavalry was singing the song under the influence of alcohol, and General Custer wandered by, liked the cadence, and soon began to hum the tune himself. Garry Owen is derived from Gaelic meaning Owen’s garden, a suburb of Limerick. The tune has a lively beat that accentuates the cadence of marching horses, and for that reason was adopted as the regimental song soon after General Custer arrived to take over the 7th Cavalry. It was the last song played by the band for General Custer’s men as they left the Terry Column at the Rosebud River and rode into history.

Army Community Service was not available. The 2nd Infantry Division’s 17 installations operated on a hub system that gave Division soldiers access to services not available on their installations. Camp Garry Owen was near Camp Howze, which offered many of the services not available on Camp Garry Owen. No Housing Office, Education Center, or Family Employment Assistance was provided at Camp Giant. Family Quarters were not available. All but 76 of the Division’s soldiers served one-year unaccompanied tours. All soldiers lived in on-post quarters.


11 posted on 01/11/2011 12:47:22 PM PST by Leofl (I'm from Texas, we don't dial 9-11)
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To: perfect stranger

Look here

http://www.1cda.org/7th_cav_regiment_dui.htm


12 posted on 01/11/2011 12:47:25 PM PST by PeteB570 (Islam is the sea in which the terrorist shark swims. It aids & comforts the shark on it's journey.)
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To: afnamvet

(sorry for multiple post)


13 posted on 01/11/2011 12:48:12 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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To: perfect stranger

IIRC, Gary Owen is a bawdy Welsh drinking song, popular with General Custer’s unit( 7th Calvary, as mentioned above) prior to his -— unfortunate -— encounter. Go here for more history and a copy of the insignia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_Cavalry_Regiment_(United_States)


14 posted on 01/11/2011 12:50:46 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: perfect stranger

Whew! I thought he died.


15 posted on 01/11/2011 12:52:39 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: perfect stranger
Garry Owen, the tune I believe it was originally an Irish drinking song
16 posted on 01/11/2011 12:52:54 PM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: All

Thanks for the information...FReepers never fail. Bing has told me everything that I learned here. Now my only question is how an Army pin ended up in a sewing kit from a family that was all Navy.


17 posted on 01/11/2011 1:02:19 PM PST by perfect stranger (Nobama)
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To: alarm rider

It does indeed have a folding pin and latch.


18 posted on 01/11/2011 1:04:42 PM PST by perfect stranger (Nobama)
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To: perfect stranger

Cool!

We have an alpacza named Garryowen...


19 posted on 01/11/2011 1:10:02 PM PST by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: steelyourfaith; perfect stranger
Here's all you need in one link:

The Insignia and the song, with lyrics.

20 posted on 01/11/2011 1:10:30 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Tyrants flourish only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace.)
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To: perfect stranger
I remember that from when I went in country in 1965 at Camp Zama, a lot of those people were wired after Ia Drang and the operation on the Bong Son plain, they didn't separate the ins and the out as they did later.
21 posted on 01/11/2011 1:13:18 PM PST by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

PING


22 posted on 01/11/2011 1:21:02 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just restock [adjusted for civility in discourse act of 2011 compliance])
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To: perfect stranger

If there is any damage to it by arrows, it may have belonged to Custer. We know he wore Arrow shirts. (smile)


23 posted on 01/11/2011 1:21:51 PM PST by fish hawk (reporter to old Indian: you lived here on the reservation all your life? Old Indian, "not yet".)
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To: perfect stranger

Let Bacchus’ sons be not dismayed
But join with me, each jovial blade
Come, drink and sing and lend your aid
To help me with the chorus:

Chorus
Instead of spa, we’ll drink brown ale
And pay the reckoning on the nail;
No man for debt shall go to jail
From Garryowen in glory.

We’ll beat the bailiffs out of fun,
We’ll make the mayor and sheriffs run
We are the boys no man dares dun
If he regards a whole skin.

Chorus

Our hearts so stout have got no fame
For soon ‘tis known from whence we came
Where’er we go they fear the name
Of Garryowen in glory.
Chorus


24 posted on 01/11/2011 1:28:24 PM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty too! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: perfect stranger

http://www.us7thcavalry.com/7-cav-Insignia.htm


25 posted on 01/11/2011 1:29:10 PM PST by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: Deb

26 posted on 01/11/2011 1:29:32 PM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: perfect stranger; ALOHA RONNIE
I have to guess from you asking the question that you have never seen the movie "We Were Soldiers Once ... And Young" or the connection would have been instant. You should do that soonest.

I am sure FR's Aloha Ronnie can give you chapter and verse. Visit http://www.lzxray.com for additional info.

27 posted on 01/11/2011 1:29:46 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just restock [adjusted for civility in discourse act of 2011 compliance])
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Here's all you need in one link:

The Garryowen is also a tactical kick in Rugby Union supposedly named after the Irish Garryowen Rugby club which frequently used the tactic. It's similar to the onside kick in football.

28 posted on 01/11/2011 1:40:08 PM PST by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: perfect stranger

Custer’s Own-the Seventh Cav. Garry Owen is not only on the regimental crest, it’s the regimental motto.


29 posted on 01/11/2011 1:44:33 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: PzLdr

Garryowen, Mt. is located along I-90 south of Hardin and is situated at the edge of the Little Big Horn/ Custer Battlefield. Evidently it’s a small privately owned town. We’ve stopped there for gas while visiting the battle field.

Lew


30 posted on 01/11/2011 2:01:32 PM PST by laterldf
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To: laterldf

Garryowen, Montana. That’s right. My niece is a large animal vet in Hardin. I went to her wedding almost a year and a half ago and met some folks from Garryowen. One fellow invited us over to see his rather extensive collection of artifacts from the battlefield. Bullets, buttons, etc.


31 posted on 01/11/2011 2:30:50 PM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: perfect stranger

Maybe your granny had a boyfriend at one time???? Maybe one that did not come home.


32 posted on 01/11/2011 4:00:52 PM PST by therut
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To: perfect stranger; NonValueAdded; All

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GARRY OWEN = “WE WERE SOLDIERS”

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htp

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33 posted on 01/11/2011 4:42:32 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: All; NonValueAdded; perfect stranger

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Once a soldier and young,

...They are still soldiers

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66978

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34 posted on 01/14/2011 9:07:44 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Thank you for the link ... there are lots of good threads to follow from there. FYI, the link to the Ledger Enquirer article in the first post is broken.

NEVER FORGET


35 posted on 01/15/2011 12:36:28 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just restock [chg'd to comply w/ The Civility in Discourse Act of 2011])
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To: All; perfect stranger; Joe 6-pack

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MEL’s -PASSION sparked by -WE WERE SOLDIERS-

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1085111/posts

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36 posted on 05/23/2012 11:03:30 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Thanks for the ping Ronnie!


37 posted on 05/24/2012 4:33:26 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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