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Study: 61% of Israeli men don't see forced sex with acquaintance as rape.
Reddit World News ^ | 01/18/2011

Posted on 01/18/2011 7:44:41 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Over half of Israeli men - 61 percent - do not consider forcing sex on an acquaintance as rape, a study conducted by Tel-Hai Academic College recently found. Moreover, 41 percent of Israeli women share that view

The study was conducted last fall by Dr. Avigail Moor, a clinical psychologist who specializes in treating victims of sexual violence.

Moor asked her respondents two main questions: The first was whether they believed forced sex with an acquaintance constitutes rape; the second was whether they felt forced sex with a stranger constitutes rape. Respondents were asked to provide a simple yes or no answer. [...]

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KEYWORDS: forcedsex; israel; rape
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To: SeekAndFind

I know the magic key that unlocks the riddle:

The Israelis are thinking about when their really hot women force themselves on a male acquaintance.

Voila! Everyone comes out a winner!


21 posted on 01/18/2011 9:00:57 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Punish Success, Reward Failure. Destroying America is the point.)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Yeah, because rape is a wonderful thing.


22 posted on 01/18/2011 9:02:06 AM PST by Politicalmom (America-The Land of the Sheep, the Home of the Caved.)
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To: Jewbacca

RE: There are all “kinds” of unlawful sexual intercourse in Israel, from: (A) traditional rape; (B) age-related issues; (C) drug/special persons who cannot consent (e.g., mentally ill); (D) rape by fraud (e.g., pretending to be someone you are not), etc.


Does forcing yourself on an acquaintance (the subject of the poll ) belong to the category of A above ?

I would say it SHOULD. After all, if FORCE is being used, then I can’t think of putting it in any other category whether the person knows you or not.


23 posted on 01/18/2011 9:09:40 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Wrong. There are feminist movements in every country on earth, in one form or another.


24 posted on 01/18/2011 9:12:31 AM PST by Amberdawn
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To: SeekAndFind

I think the criminal penalties are the same for “acquantance rape” vs. “stranger rape”, but the colloquial name of the charge is different.

I’m not a lawyer, but I know some lawyers in Israel, and will ask.


25 posted on 01/18/2011 9:14:25 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

RE: rape by fraud (e.g., pretending to be someone you are not)


I find this to be an interesting definition of “rape”.

For me, the most common element that makes the word — rape what it is is -— the victim has sex INVOLUNTARILY ( either through FORCE or MENTAL INCAPACITY ).

Now, if the victim thinks you’re Tom Cruise (when you really aren’t ) and consents to have sex with you... I’m not sure if rape can be used here. After all, the victim VOLUNTARILY CONSENTS. It is FRAUD, no doubt, but RAPE ??

AS for age -— there’s a term for it which society thinks of as even worse than rape — Paedophilia.


26 posted on 01/18/2011 9:14:52 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Jewbacca
RE: 10

Your explanation makes sense to me.
I can't believe the poll numbers, but in the context you described, I could believe that if some people are that 'precise' they could say that 'No, its not rape' (... but it is a similarly heinous and illegal crime - its just not their definition of the word 'rape').
They probably should have just asked if it is 'wrong'.

27 posted on 01/18/2011 9:17:59 AM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Amberdawn
Wrong. There are feminist movements in every country on earth, in one form or another.

These movements are only outposts of Western decadence. What country outside the West takes feminism seriously?

28 posted on 01/18/2011 9:18:49 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Politicalmom
Yeah, because rape is a wonderful thing.

Feminism facilitates rape by working to "free" wives from their husbands and daughters from the protection of their families.

29 posted on 01/18/2011 9:26:03 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve known a lot of Jewish lads in my day...some were helluva pals....and we saw the world together and chasing women was pretty much a big chunk of it aside from adventure and making money...lol....maybe the real lure to be candid.

I did think they were randier than most other groups as compared to other white guys.

But rape?

No way...and I knew a lot of Israelis...and yes they are pretty macho towards women....more so than me as a chivalry raised Southerner....especially the Sephradim...who are sorta archaic about some stuff... but still..

things would have to have changed a lot since my day 20 years ago when I was around Israelis a bunch


30 posted on 01/18/2011 9:32:01 AM PST by wardaddy ("Out Here" by Josh Thompson pretty much says it all to those who will never understand anyhow)
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To: El Cid
"Your explanation makes sense to me." Fair enough. Keep in mind English is not my primary language. I want to know what Hebrew word they used. Is it "אוס ? There are difference "kinds" of forcible, non-consensual sexual intercourse, and one is not the other (although they are all bad). It's like murder is not rape; no, it's murder.
31 posted on 01/18/2011 9:32:11 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

more and more in the West are behaving like sluts by default

no need to even define it all anymore


32 posted on 01/18/2011 9:33:04 AM PST by wardaddy ("Out Here" by Josh Thompson pretty much says it all to those who will never understand anyhow)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

That’s garbage. Rape has a much higher incidence in countries which view women as property.


33 posted on 01/18/2011 9:53:03 AM PST by Politicalmom (America-The Land of the Sheep, the Home of the Caved.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I fear these poll results are accurate. Even many American Jews who visit the less liberal parts of Israel sometimes come back horrified by some of the practices of Jews from other countries. In many ways, Israel is a melting pot of Jews that don’t melt, but stubbornly keep to traditions of a bygone era in whatever foreign land.

There is no dominant culture that integrates or reforms other cultures, other than secularism. Everything is voluntary. If someone wishes to practice a weird and heterodoxical mutation of Judaism, they are free to do so. And it is not just limited to Judaism. Political philosophies also wend their way around.

A YouTube search for “prostitution in Israel” shows some of the seamier side of such things.


34 posted on 01/18/2011 9:59:54 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Politicalmom

Where?


35 posted on 01/18/2011 10:06:31 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Politicalmom
That’s garbage. Rape has a much higher incidence in countries which view women as property.

Here are world rape statistics:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics

Sweden has the highest incidence of rape and is well known as the most feminist country in the world.

36 posted on 01/18/2011 12:07:35 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor
Sweden has the highest incidence of rape and is well known as the most feminist country in the world.

"According to a new study from the Crime Prevention Council, Brå, it is four times more likely that a known rapist is born abroad, compared to persons born in Sweden. Resident aliens from Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia dominate the group of rape suspects. According to these statistics, almost half of all perpetrators are immigrants. In Norway and Denmark, we know that non-Western immigrants, which frequently means Muslims, are grossly overrepresented on rape statistics. In Oslo, Norway, immigrants were involved in two out of three rape charges in 2001. The numbers in Denmark were the same, and even higher in the city of Copenhagen with three out of four rape charges. Sweden has a larger immigrant, including Muslim, population than any other country in northern Europe.

From:

Muslim Rape Wave

37 posted on 01/18/2011 12:17:57 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: Scoutmaster

From the same article: “It is not as wrong raping a Swedish girl as raping an Arab girl,” says Hamid. “The Swedish girl gets a lot of help afterwards, and she had probably f***ed before, anyway. But the Arab girl will get problems with her family. For her, being raped is a source of shame. It is important that she retains her virginity until she marries.”


38 posted on 01/18/2011 12:19:37 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Um...MUSLIMS?

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/09/muslims-rule-major-swedish-city.html


39 posted on 01/18/2011 12:36:29 PM PST by Politicalmom (America-The Land of the Sheep, the Home of the Caved.)
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To: Scoutmaster; Politicalmom
The feminist mindset is largely to blame for the policies that permit the Muslim immigration. You can be sure these rapists would not get away with raping Muslim women back in their own countries.

Feminism = Open rape season

40 posted on 01/18/2011 1:02:52 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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