Posted on 01/21/2011 3:25:29 AM PST by bushpilot1
United States District Court, D. Hawaii.
February 21, 1979.
THE HAWAII LAW ON NAMES
The basic statute in Hawaii on names was adopted in 1860.
Until 1967, it was required that all children born in wedlock shall have their father's name as a "family name" and ". . . a Christian name suitable to their sex."
(Excerpt) Read more at scholar.google.com ...
Seems to me that someone posted a birth certificate from someone born in HI in either 1961 or right around then, Japanese ethnicity, and the person had a regular “Christian” ie English first name and a Japanese middle name.
Christian name traditionally means either “Christian” or just “given name” and IMO the Hawaiian law was to get the citizens of HI to use English first names and have their Hawaiian (or Japanese or whatever) given names be their middle names. It would be an interesting research project to find out if this was the case. Some of those Hawaiian names are very long with many vowels and unless a person is familiar with Hawaiian names, they can be extremely confusing and hard to pronounce or spell.
“but I think that the state was supposed to notify the parents that the name was unacceptable.”
The alleged parents were not notified because Barack Huessin Obama was not the name given to the Vital Stats office.
Clearly it is not a Christian or English speaking name.
Here is fairly comprehensive list of first (Christian) names used in the English-speaking world (Great Britain, the United States, Ireland; Australia etc.). It also includes an indication of the traditional meaning of these names. It should of some use to anyone thinking about choosing a name for a baby or interested in finding:
An excerpt: Barack is not listed.
http://www.world-english.org/boys_names_list.htm
Atwood Forest Dweller
Aubrey Ruler of the Elves
Austin Helpful
Avery Elfin Ruler
Axel Man of Peace
Baird Bard or Minstrel
Baldwin Princely Friend
Barclay Meadow of Birch Trees
Barnaby Prophet
Baron Nobleman
Barrett Bear-Like
Barry Marksman
Bartholomew Warlike
The alleged parents were not notified because Barack Huessin Obama was not the name given to the Vital Stats office.
Clearly it is not a Christian or English speaking name.
“Index data referred to in HRS §338-18 from vital records in the State of Hawaii is available for inspection at the Department of Health’s Office of Health Status Monitoring at 1250 Punchbowl Street in Honolulu. The public will be asked to provide identification and sign in to inspect the names and sex of all births, deaths and marriages that occurred in the state. Data are maintained in bound copies by type of event with names listed alphabetically by last name.
The index data regarding President Obama is:
Birth Index
Obama II, Barack Hussein
Male”
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html
1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
This supposed revelation of 0's SS records has been debunked here and here.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Obama 1964 Divorce Papers - 13 Pages - Missing Pg 11
24 Why isn't Barack Obama still a member of the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why isn't Michelle Obama still a member of the Illinois bar, after only about four years of practice, and where are all of the relevant documents?
Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.
The basic statute in Hawaii on names was adopted in 1860.
Section 6. It shall not be lawful to change any name adopted or conferred under this law.
The basic statute in Hawaii on names was adopted in 1860.
Section 6. It shall not be lawful to change any name adopted or conferred under this law.
No disagreement there. While it may been possible for the mother to have flown to Africa, it is not probable. Birth name, father...with just a bit more help from the Governor... we shall see.
It is getting hard to find an old Underwood or IBM Selectric, so it may take a while. /s
Agreed.
It looks to me as if this law is trying to regularize the naming of children around some standard. In Hawaii, I believe it was common for children to be given just one name. Like Kamahemaha. What they wanted was to include a “family” name to show descendancy. Probably for recordkeeping purposes it was confusing when some people didn’t have both a “first” and “last” name.
My .02
The alleged mother believes her sons name is Barry.
Even if the law was still on the books in 1961, which you haven't proven, (find an official code book from the era that shows this, not a wikipedia entry), such a law would not have been enforceable under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment after the Pierce/Meyer line of cases and their progeny. Attempting to assert anything to the contrary is absolutely laughable.
Are you really suggesting that the government actually had the power to prohibit you naming your child whatever you wanted in Hawaii? Really?
Jech v. Burch. 466 F. Supp. 714 - US: Dist. Court, D. Hawaii 1979.
“There is no known case in which the requirements of “a Christian name” that was “suitable to their sex” were ever enforced. One wonders whether Grand Constable Anne de Montmorency, first owner of the Chateau de Chantilly, could have been so named had he been born in Hawaii between 1860 and 1967.”
“Plaintiffs have a Constitutionally protected right to give their own child any surname they choose. The refusal of the registrar of births to accept the surname “Jebef” as the child’s surname is a deprivation under color of state law of a right secured by the Constitution of the United States.”
Daniel Ken Inouye
The law was repealed in 1967. According to SSA stats from 1960 to 1973 the names were traditional Christian
In 1974 the name Keola appears.
Seems the intent of the Christian missionaries was successful.
Christopher was a very popular name in Hawaii.
http://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/namesbystate.cgi
You are wrong, as the Court indicated. “Christian name” doesn’t mean what you think it does, and there is no record of the law being enforced in the manner that you suggest.
The SSA search that you are using only lists “popular” baby names. These names will be similar in every State.
Who's the baby daddy? Frank Marshall Davis?
Also he was conceived out of wedlock...
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