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Mansfield [TX]backs away from Arabic studies program
Mansfield News Mirrow ^ | Amanda Rogers

Posted on 02/08/2011 12:21:42 PM PST by Dubya

The Mansfield school district has backed off plans to implement an Arabic studies program after almost 200 people showed up with questions at a parents meeting at Cross Timbers Intermediate School on Monday night.

Superintendent Bob Morrison apologized for not communicating with parents and invited them to be part of developing the curriculum.

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KEYWORDS: arabic; islam; muslim; terrest; texas; tx; unions
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The Arabic studies program, funded by a federal five-year $1.3 million Foreign Language Assistance Program (FLAP) grant, was to begin this semester at Cross Timbers, then spread to Davis Elementary and Howard Middle Schools in the fall and to Summit High school by the fall of 2012.

Arabic culture was to be integrated into the curriculum in elementary and intermediate schools, then offered as a language credit in the middle and high schools. Davis, Cross Timbers and Howard are feeder schools to Summit High School.

1 posted on 02/08/2011 12:21:46 PM PST by Dubya
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To: Dubya

Watched this on the news last night. I never got the answer to why Arabic? Why not Chinese, Hindu, Russian or any other language more relevant?


2 posted on 02/08/2011 12:26:28 PM PST by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: Dubya

“part of developing the curiculum”

Its already been developed by CAIR no doubt.


3 posted on 02/08/2011 12:26:42 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: Dubya

Would they fund a curriculum for teaching about Christianity or Buddism,etc.

Whose tax dollars are paying for this kind of program?


4 posted on 02/08/2011 12:28:20 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota (Which are you? A producer, a looter, or a moocher of wealth?)
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To: Kandy Atz

I’m surprised you felt the need to ask the question. The answer seems obvious, what with the feds behind the effort.


5 posted on 02/08/2011 12:28:32 PM PST by bcsco (Will anyone be watching BOBO on Super Bowl Sunday?)
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To: Dubya

It was going to be required at some of the schools. REQUIRED.

Not the language, the CULTURE, indoctrination.


6 posted on 02/08/2011 12:28:38 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: Dubya

Personally I think that government agencies are so used to getting money from the government that they do not THINK of the consequencies just the bucks. There is not such thing as free money. I would have found it a long time ago.


7 posted on 02/08/2011 12:29:46 PM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Kandy Atz

Why do you think arabic.

Its not the language, the whole point was to indoctrinate students on the entire CULTURE of Islam.


8 posted on 02/08/2011 12:29:46 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: Dubya

“Superintendent Bob Morrison apologized for not communicating with parents and invited them to be part of developing the curriculum”
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Superintendent Bob Morrison probably needs to move on and infect some other school district. These “gravy train” school administrators are REALLY irritating. How much are they paying this nit wit? Whatever it is it’s WAAAAAY too much.

Jut show the kids a video of Nick Berg’s beheading. That’s ALL they need to know.


9 posted on 02/08/2011 12:32:09 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: Dubya
One good reason for Arabic language studies is so we don't have to hire Muslim Arabs to do our translations for us in the Middle East. They can't be trusted to do accurate translations, if the translation makes Islam look bad.

Back in the 1960s, when I was getting my PhD, I had to meet a language requirement. I chose Russian, because at the time it was highly relevant. I'm not sure of it's relevance today, but it still comes in handy. Were I doing it today, I might well choose Arabic because today it's a lot more relevant than Russian.

10 posted on 02/08/2011 12:32:30 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. A primer on armed revolt. Available form Amazon.)
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To: Kandy Atz

Why not another Semitic language like Hebrew or even Aramaic?


11 posted on 02/08/2011 12:36:40 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Dubya

A Pelosi style cram down redux by the school district. Bypassing citizens, parents and students has become the first option of the political class (and public schools are certainly run by the union loving, socialist, political class) in their push for social engineering. All this among a population of students who are hardly crisp on their own language, literature, civics, the Constitution, or American history. Never mind our math and science ranking. We must sit back and wonder at the unmitigated gall of those who are no friend to American traditions.

Dallas area is getting as funky Leftist as Austin.


12 posted on 02/08/2011 12:36:47 PM PST by RitaOK
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To: Dubya

Are there are lot of Muslims out that way?

I remember driving to Dallas, Xmas nite, 1985. There was nothing out there in Mansfield They big green downtown monster had just opened and it was eerie seeing it way out there on I 20 with not much else around.


13 posted on 02/08/2011 12:38:22 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (The Rodney King Riots: Courtesy of ABC, CBS, NBC & CNN)
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To: JoeFromSidney

You chose as opposed to being forced to learn Russian


14 posted on 02/08/2011 12:40:48 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: JoeFromSidney

This is not just a language course being offered, it was being required and it included the tradition, culture, art and etc of Muslims. It was complete indoctrination.


15 posted on 02/08/2011 12:42:39 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: RitaOK

government schools are government schools no matter where they are located.


16 posted on 02/08/2011 12:43:19 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: JoeFromSidney

“I chose Russian”.

I think a lot of the controversy is over the fact that it would have been MANDATORY. No choice or selection. When you chose a second language, you were an adult. Children are more likely not to challenge any sort of viewpoint. The language course would have also included the culture/ field trips to mosques/ and other material (not just the language itself). I have no problem with it being offered in high school or colleges but children should learn their primary language/writing skills/punctuation/spelling first IMHO.


17 posted on 02/08/2011 12:44:39 PM PST by momtothree
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To: Dubya

real Texans should go down there and say h*ll no.


18 posted on 02/08/2011 12:48:06 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Kandy Atz

Why? To indoctrinate American kids for future dhimmitude, no doubt.


19 posted on 02/08/2011 12:54:05 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine (I'm shocked! Shocked to find out that gambling is going on in here!)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

“I remember driving to Dallas, Xmas nite, 1985. There was nothing out there in Mansfield They big green downtown monster had just opened and it was eerie seeing it way out there on I 20 with not much else around”
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“Are there are lot of Muslims out that way?”

Uhh... the answer to that question is not just no... but HE!! No.

I was in Arlington in the 1970s and back then Mansfield had about two residents and one of those was a cow.


20 posted on 02/08/2011 12:54:27 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: GeronL

Obviously there is a more sinister reason, but let’s assume that somebody truly wants students to have the opportunity to learn another language - I learned French in 7th grade and took 3 years of German in High School and think both were helpful.

How much use/practice would you ever get with arabic? It would be worthless in North Texas and in 75% of the world. You might as well learn Finnish - Nokia has offices here in DFW so a handful of the 5 million Finnish speakers live here.

There are 5 or 6 languages that would be more useful and relevant in North Texas and throughout the world. Heck, even Latin would be more beneficial long term.

Did Saudi Arabia supply funds for this FLAP?


21 posted on 02/08/2011 1:02:10 PM PST by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: Frantzie

“real Texans should go down there and say h*ll no”
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I’m sure the folks at the school board meeting who opposed this idiocy were “real Texans”. Unfortunately, Texas has
become infected with PC zombies from “other places”.


22 posted on 02/08/2011 1:02:30 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: Kandy Atz

When you learned French did they have you not shower regularly, sleep with a relative and drink wine in class?

This wasn’t just language it was cultural immersion.

Teaching them languages and letting them decide which one, without all of the indoctrination would be fine. Chinese and Hindi are becoming more and more important.


23 posted on 02/08/2011 1:06:57 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: GeronL


Its already been developed by CAIR no doubt.

Maybe.
But school unions do anything they can to create useless faculty positions.
In California, the big push was to higher a ton of Spanish-to-English
teachers...until an initiative forbidding it passed.
Amazingly, it was found that kids that were immersed in English managed
to become fluent in English in six months or so.
(Despite the predictions of disaster from the educational “experts”.)


24 posted on 02/08/2011 1:19:13 PM PST by VOA
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To: Dubya

What possessed these fools to even think they could do this?


25 posted on 02/08/2011 1:24:05 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: JoeFromSidney

Excellent point in that while Arabic should hardly be REQUIRED language study for US public schools, maybe that fed money should go toward the armed forces developing their own lingual programs. My BIL (retired Navy Lt-Commander) works for CentCom as a civilian now doing job placement all over the Mideast Theater of Operations. Several years ago he lamented that very thing, having to use local Arabs/non-Americans to translate because one of the very hardest jobs to fill is liguistics in Arabic and Farsi - at the time the number of armed forces personnel trained or training in Farsi or Arabic was very small.

That might be a bit different a decade after 9/11, hopefully so.


26 posted on 02/08/2011 1:26:10 PM PST by agrace
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To: Dubya


Arabic culture was to be integrated into the curriculum in elementary and
intermediate schools,...

Except for the over-paid (probably unionized) school teachers...
I’m for an OPTION to get training in Arabic.
When WWII broke out, having a pool of folks fluent in Japanese, German,
Italian, as well as Navaho and Cherokee (code-talkers) was part of our arsenal.

We do know that the Dept. of Defense has had trouble getting speakers
of Arabic that are actually loyal to the USA. Training more of “our own”
in Arabic (and other Middle-Eastern languages) ain’t a bad idea.

Especially as we know that many Muslim leaders say nice things in English...
then preach some of the most vile crap in their native language.


27 posted on 02/08/2011 1:27:05 PM PST by VOA
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To: Dubya

And the reason they backed away from it is that it probably raised a sh*tstorm over the last couple days since the story popped up. Bunches of parents and patriots probably wrote, called, and emailed the superintendent with a massive “WTF?!?!?”

No American child should be forced to learn Arabic, except for the phrases “Drop your weapon”, “Halt”, and “Eat s**t and die, sand jockey”.


28 posted on 02/08/2011 1:30:46 PM PST by hoagy62 (I am a optimistic pessimist. I am positive that the world is going to Hell.)
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To: Dubya

Multiculturalism is a failure. Stop it. We are America, the US of A.


29 posted on 02/08/2011 1:33:19 PM PST by Dudoight
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To: Dubya

I kind of figured the folks in Mansfield weren’t going to accept this


30 posted on 02/08/2011 1:39:41 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Green Bay Packers - SuperBowl 45 champs)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
Whose tax dollars are paying for this kind of program?

Working Americans are paying for it.

31 posted on 02/08/2011 1:48:48 PM PST by Dubya (JESUS SAVES)
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To: GeronL
Its not the language, the whole point was to indoctrinate students on the entire CULTURE of Islam.

I FULLY AGREE WITH YOU.

32 posted on 02/08/2011 1:52:07 PM PST by Dubya (JESUS SAVES)
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To: RitaOK

MISD USED TO BE CONSIDERED TO BE ONE OF THE BEST.


33 posted on 02/08/2011 1:54:07 PM PST by Dubya (JESUS SAVES)
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To: NeverForgetBataan
Jut show the kids a video of Nick Berg’s beheading. That’s ALL they need to know.

Very good idea.

34 posted on 02/08/2011 1:56:43 PM PST by Dubya (JESUS SAVES)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

You are right I hope.


35 posted on 02/08/2011 1:58:54 PM PST by Dubya (JESUS SAVES)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
"Nothing will be taught in the classroom until the curriculum is rolled out," said Richie Escovedo, Mansfield district spokesperson.

Hmmm

36 posted on 02/08/2011 2:04:54 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Dudoight
We are America, the US of A.

I hope we can stay that way.
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37 posted on 02/08/2011 2:06:55 PM PST by Dubya (JESUS SAVES)
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To: dragnet2

Federal money right? I still think the locals will throw a hissy fit....we will wait and see


38 posted on 02/08/2011 2:08:35 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Green Bay Packers - SuperBowl 45 champs)
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To: GeronL

Notice how folks VISCERALLY know this is WRONG,
but only a few bat aside the PC shield of the enemy
and demand that they stop.


39 posted on 02/08/2011 2:08:48 PM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my about page. Click my handle.)
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To: hoagy62
No American child should be forced to learn Arabic, except for the phrases “Drop your weapon”, “Halt”, and “Eat s**t and die, sand jockey”.

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VERY GOOD IDEA.

40 posted on 02/08/2011 2:11:38 PM PST by Dubya (JESUS SAVES)
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To: freekitty
What possessed these fools to even think they could do this?

I don't know, if I had known about it then, I would have been on the FRONT row. Ready to stomp him.
Now that the Star-Telegram has picked it up there will will be a lot of us watching close.

41 posted on 02/08/2011 2:18:22 PM PST by Dubya (JESUS SAVES)
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To: Frantzie
real Texans should go down there and say h*ll no.

A lot us will if it comes up again.


42 posted on 02/08/2011 2:21:00 PM PST by Dubya (JESUS SAVES)
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To: NeverForgetBataan
“Superintendent Bob Morrison apologized for not communicating with parents and invited them to be part of developing the curriculum”

Superintendent Morrison is annoyed that the camel got out of the bag...

43 posted on 02/08/2011 2:22:44 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
The MISD runs a long way. I don't live in Mansfield but I am in their School Dist. I live out in the country. I don't know even about how many Muslims live around here. Muslims own a lot of business around here.
44 posted on 02/08/2011 2:28:31 PM PST by Dubya (JESUS SAVES)
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To: Dubya

Woo Hoo. Some fellers should show up on horseback too. I bet that would freak em out.

This is total BS.


45 posted on 02/08/2011 2:29:34 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: RitaOK
A Pelosi style cram down redux by the school district.

I think you are right.

46 posted on 02/08/2011 2:33:29 PM PST by Dubya (JESUS SAVES)
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To: NeverForgetBataan

“Uhh... the answer to that question is not just no... but HE!! No.”

“I was in Arlington in the 1970s and back then Mansfield had about two residents and one of those was a cow.”

Was the cow wearing a burkah? ;-)


47 posted on 02/08/2011 2:34:10 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: All

Hope I didn’t miss anyone. I get mixed up easy. :^)


48 posted on 02/08/2011 2:36:46 PM PST by Dubya (JESUS SAVES)
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To: All
Thank you every one for your input.
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49 posted on 02/08/2011 2:58:16 PM PST by Dubya (JESUS SAVES)
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To: Dubya

I can not believe they tried to do this in Texas. lol!


50 posted on 02/08/2011 3:31:48 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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