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University of Arizona experts determine age of book 'nobody can read' (Voynich manuscript)
University of Arizona ^ | February 10, 2011 | Unknown

Posted on 02/10/2011 5:02:38 PM PST by decimon

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To: decimon; hinckley buzzard

Lol. Maybe he will.

I think HB may have nailed it, though. I knew is schizophrenic woman who drew patterns very similar to the ones pictured. She only wrote in English, but maybe her IQ and creativity levels were not on par with those of the book’s creator.


21 posted on 02/10/2011 5:30:12 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: hinckley buzzard

That was my first reaction.

A person suffering from Schizophrenia.


22 posted on 02/10/2011 5:30:38 PM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: Average Al

I thought it looked like lace patterns.


23 posted on 02/10/2011 5:30:49 PM PST by madamemayhem (defeat is not getting knocked down, it is not getting back up.)
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To: decimon
Voynich Manuscript-Elegant Enigma from NSA
24 posted on 02/10/2011 5:35:47 PM PST by Larry381
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To: decimon

Well, we know how to drive them absolutely crazy in the future. Write a book filled with gibberish and bury it for 600 years.

Actually, the pictures look like microorganisms or botanical magnifications to me. Maybe some past scientist, making copies of crude magnifications, and trying to keep his notes secret, like Leonardo?


25 posted on 02/10/2011 5:37:10 PM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: Richard Kimball
I never throw anything away. Checked the attic and still have Zork and accessories. (Even have the Tandy 4P that I played it on).


26 posted on 02/10/2011 5:37:36 PM PST by lunarville (Common sense ain't so common anymore...)
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To: decimon

I’d never heard of this book before now.

Deciphering the text would be a perfect job for a supercomputer, or maybe one of those projects that link all the PCs in a network to decode small pieces. I think they did something like that for the Genome Project.


27 posted on 02/10/2011 5:37:36 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: decimon

any tome dealing with alchemy/magic written in the 15 century would have meant a gruesome death for anyone found guilty of having penned it or even possessing it. As such, it seems entirely possible that the text is actually encrypted.


28 posted on 02/10/2011 5:38:56 PM PST by RC one
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To: decimon

Demonstrating poor psychologist skills again?


29 posted on 02/10/2011 5:43:27 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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30 posted on 02/10/2011 5:43:47 PM PST by lunarville (Common sense ain't so common anymore...)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

It’s parchment (vellum), not paper. If it were on paper, yes, paper of that era often had watermarks and they can to some degree help with dating the paper. But parchment is made from animal hides and, sorry to say, has no watermarks ever.

Ink won’t help. Even if they determined the kind of ink, it wouldn’t tell you much—there were only a handful of ways to make ink and all had been in use for centuries so establishing a particular kind of ink rarely tells anything about date. If it were some uniqe, modern kind of ink, yeah, that would tell you something—that its not old. But ten-to-one they’ve already done that testing. They can’t carbon-14 the ink but there are other ways (including eyeballing it) to figure out what it was made from.

If it were written in a regular language and script, it could be dated from the style of writing.

But it’s not.


31 posted on 02/10/2011 5:45:06 PM PST by Houghton M.
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To: Quix
Demonstrating poor psychologist skills again?

Again? Just kidding. That's what the wink emoticon was for.

32 posted on 02/10/2011 5:47:29 PM PST by decimon
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

LOL - First thing I thought when I saw the drawings.


33 posted on 02/10/2011 5:48:05 PM PST by ExpatCanuck
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To: PhiloBedo

Youze found my dairy? Is mah kookebook.

34 posted on 02/10/2011 5:49:35 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: decimon

I think I’ll get a journal and create some undecipherable “script”...adding some odd doodling, alongside. Then I’ll find out how best to preserve it and safely secret it away. Maybe I can throw some future society for a loop. (:-D


35 posted on 02/10/2011 5:51:57 PM PST by bannie (( ))
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To: decimon

Dude obviously had the Spirograph Professional Edition Deluxe set.


36 posted on 02/10/2011 5:57:03 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Houghton M.
The things discovered about the Voynich Manuscript. The languages are internally consistent. I was written by two people. It was not a code known in the 12th thru 16th century. Other than that any thing goes.
37 posted on 02/10/2011 6:00:22 PM PST by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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Thanks decimon. Nice description and explanation of RC dating, and a great find.

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38 posted on 02/10/2011 6:02:45 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: razbinn
High-resolution images of the manuscript's 240 pages, including a special section on highlights and special features, are online at
http://voynichcentral.com/gallery

To me, this is the most valuable bit in the entire article.
There is nothing so full of promise than the ability of millions of eyeballs to see the manuscript; normal people, exceptionally smart people, even idiots savants. If there is an "outside the box" thinking brain out there, there is a better chance of finding an answer.

39 posted on 02/10/2011 6:03:10 PM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: PhiloBedo
"Deciphering the text would be a perfect job for a supercomputer, or maybe one of those projects that link all the PCs in a network to decode small pieces. I think they did something like that for the Genome Project."

I believe the NSA already took a crack at it and came up short.

40 posted on 02/10/2011 6:04:58 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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