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To: icwhatudo

She has a point. Nothing the anti-gay FReepers can say will make homosexuals go away, nor even make them LESS a part of society and media. I’d rather have them voting conservative than Democrat, wouldn’t you? If you say no, it must mean you hate the person, and not the act. Think about it.


6 posted on 02/12/2011 1:55:36 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Nehemiah refused the help of Sanballat and Tobiah because they hated the Lord God of Israel . . . Sodomites hate God or they would not be practicing their deviant behavior - I do not need thier help, let them vote for their own kind.


9 posted on 02/12/2011 2:03:23 PM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: Yaelle
If you say no, it must mean you hate the person, and not the act. Think about it.

Must be some kind logical fallacy somewhere in your thinking. If homosexuals are natural conservatives, nobody needs to pander to them. They'll either vote for the more conservative candidate or they won't.

14 posted on 02/12/2011 2:05:39 PM PST by Racehorse (Always preach the Gospel . . . . Use words if necessary.)
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To: Yaelle
I guess you've confused toleration and acceptance. The pracative of sodomy in private is tolerable, to accept the sodomite would be a sin on my part.

Just to review:

Definition of TOLERATION
1
a : the act or practice of tolerating something b : a government policy of permitting forms of religious belief and worship not officially established 

Definition of ACCEPTANCE
1
: an agreeing either expressly or by conduct to the act or offer of another so that a contract is concluded and the parties become legally bound
2
: the quality or state of being accepted or acceptable
3
: the act of accepting : the fact of being accepted : approval
4
a : the act of accepting a time draft or bill of exchange for payment when due according to the specified terms b : an accepted draft or bill of exchange 

29 posted on 02/12/2011 2:27:22 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Yaelle

I don’t like perverted people that force everyone to celebrate their perversion as “a good thing”.

We all have faults and sins. Most of us are embarassed and ashamed of them. We don’t flaunt them and call them “a good thing” nor demand others tell us how good we are for doing our faults and sins.

The issue is far bigger than just a simple “act”.


31 posted on 02/12/2011 2:27:48 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Yaelle

pracative = practice


33 posted on 02/12/2011 2:29:47 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Yaelle

You keep pushing homosexuality. They are not Conservative and their agenda isn’t.


38 posted on 02/12/2011 2:35:28 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Yaelle

What are you talking about? She has no point. What she’s saying is ridiculous.


50 posted on 02/12/2011 2:49:24 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Yaelle
So, according to you and Ann Coulter, we should just accept our enemies into the conservative fold with open arms?

1) They won't vote for conservative candidates (ala Ronald Reagan), they'll vote for RINOs who support the homosexual agenda (ala Rduy McRomney).
2) What else are you willing to run up the white flag on and surrender? If you're willing to surrender on homosexuality and Judeo-Christian beliefs, will you be willing to surrender on, say, gun rights tomorrow? Or border security/amnesty? Or how about letting your homo buddies adopt children? Caving in to the homo agenda on the misguided hope that they'll vote for conservative candidates is just as dumb as a freshman Congressman thinking the cute reporterette will be fair just because she made goo-goo eyes at him.

No more surrenders, no more cave-ins! If the so-called conservatives in this nation won't stand and fight figuratively now, we'll have to fight for real before long. Homosexuality is a line in the sand issue for conservatives.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

56 posted on 02/12/2011 2:54:13 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: Yaelle
She has a point. Nothing the anti-gay FReepers can say will make homosexuals go away, nor even make them LESS a part of society and media.

People who practice homosexuality constitute roughly 1% of the population, if that. The only reason that they inhabit so much of the media is because of the very same pandering that you and Coulter are proposing. Otherwise, they'd be merely a fringe element with a sexual disorder, like other fetishists.
86 posted on 02/12/2011 3:33:13 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: Yaelle

I do not trust them.


91 posted on 02/12/2011 3:38:46 PM PST by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: Yaelle; P-Marlowe; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Jim Robinson; wmfights; blue-duncan

I’d rather not be voting on the same side as those who thoroughly reject basic conservative values.

One of the basic values is: natural law. Natural law requires a rejection of homosexuality, since homosexuality is the unnatural use of God-given human sexuality. When people reject nature, they reject Nature’s God, and they make gods of created things.

Ann Coulter has been co-opted. For how long, we don’t know. She ended up a Romney supporter in 2008, didn’t she?


119 posted on 02/12/2011 4:27:49 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: Yaelle

You are right with the idea homosexuals will not go away. Recall the biblical recount of Sodom and Gomorrah. Recall the influence of homosexuals in Germany during the rise of Hitler. There was the time shortly thereafter of my experience with a ‘gay’ guy in my army basic training platoon in WWII. I recall the homosexual presence in the Bay Area when I went to CAL. I have for a long time cringed at the terminology ‘gay’ because it’s use has prevented me from telling about my happy and gay times of my childhood and later events. I’ve learned throughout my lifetime that if someone wants to to control expression and/or reset verbal meanings they just need to confiscate the meaning and standard of words. The government(i.e. people) at all levels do this to promote ideology. The ‘gays’ ,in my mind, do the same. They want to contort the society to their words. I can hate the act e.g. murder as much and before the murderer. It does not take much emotion to hate the person. This in no way equates homosexuality to murder, it just deals with your supposition about persons and acts.


155 posted on 02/12/2011 6:51:00 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Yaelle

You are right with the idea homosexuals will not go away. Recall the biblical recount of Sodom and Gomorrah. Recall the influence of homosexuals in Germany during the rise of Hitler. There was the time shortly thereafter of my experience with a ‘gay’ guy in my army basic training platoon in WWII. I recall the homosexual presence in the Bay Area when I went to CAL. I have for a long time cringed at the terminology ‘gay’ because it’s use has prevented me from telling about my happy and gay times of my childhood and later events. I’ve learned throughout my lifetime that if someone wants to to control expression and/or reset verbal meanings they just need to confiscate the meaning and standard of words. The government(i.e. people) at all levels do this to promote ideology. The ‘gays’ ,in my mind, do the same. They want to contort the society to their words. I can hate the act e.g. murder as much and before the murderer. It does not take much emotion to hate the person. This in no way equates homosexuality to murder, it just deals with your supposition about persons and acts.


156 posted on 02/12/2011 6:51:24 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Yaelle

“. I’d rather have them voting conservative than Democrat, wouldn’t you? If you say no, it must mean you hate the person, and not the act. Think about it.”

You assume they vote conservative. And don’t confuse Republican with conservative. Think about it. Maybe we could get the violent felons to bote, too, if they only promise to vote conservative? Think about it.


157 posted on 02/12/2011 7:31:27 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Yaelle

Surely you just.

The gay hate here is so thick you can only suspect this place is full of self loathing closet cases.


168 posted on 02/13/2011 6:12:51 AM PST by fml
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To: Yaelle

She has a point. Nothing the anti-gay FReepers can say will make homosexuals go away, nor even make them LESS a part of society and media. I’d rather have them voting conservative than Democrat, wouldn’t you? If you say no, it must mean you hate the person, and not the act. Think about it.


I agree. She absolutely has a point. Furthermore—

The ACU’s (and thus CPAC’s) roots in gay conservatism dates all the way back to its formation. People (aka sinners) like Robert Bauman were among its founders, if I remember correctly.

Gays have been involved in conservatism longer than FR has existed and no matter what anyone says or does they will REMAIN involved in conservatism. Posts on here telling them to “go vote Democrat” are preposterous.

The Great Ann Coulter is a stalwart of conservatism and even if I conceded she is wrong about gays, so what? She is RIGHT about SO MUCH that it hardly registers that she likes gays or thinks that a RINO like Chris Christie should be the candidate. Just the first 4 chapters of Treason alone give her all the pass she needs to be wrong now and then.

As for the gay thing specifically, she did say she was tired of all the identity caterwauling and I took that to mean on BOTH sides.

And I would add that if we are going to begin carving away possible voters on OUR side for their behaviorial issues where would we stop?? I prefer small cars. You have a big SUV. Get OUT of my political party!

In the end, in 2012, this will be about VOTES—who has them and who doesn’t. Conservatives don’t have the luxury of telling other conservatives to go away. And it’s not as if we are talking about a gay candidate for president. We’re talking about gay voters (actually, conference attendees!).

Now, all the purists can go ahead and call me gay like they did last time I piped up about this matter! LOL


169 posted on 02/13/2011 6:43:37 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: Yaelle
She has a point. Nothing the anti-gay FReepers can say will make homosexuals go away...

Being that perversity (detestable sinful behavior) will never "go away", there is nothing that this "anti-homosexual FReeper" can do. However, this "anti-homosexual FReeper" can push for the return of sodomy laws, and at least slow down their out of control sexual appepite for not only engaging in perverse sex, but for ruining our nation through their agenda.

170 posted on 02/13/2011 8:10:07 AM PST by aSeattleConservative ("...the American Christian ... would rather die on his feet, than live on his knees!" G. Washington)
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