OBAMA NOT EVEN A UNITED STATES CITIZEN

His own website claims that Sen. Obama's Kenyan citizenship did not expire until 1982. In 1980, Sen. Obama was not an American citizen and his legal name was Barry Soetoro. He has never shown evidence that he has naturalized as an American citizen, and he has never produced any document that indicates a name change from Barry Soetoro to Barack Hussein Obama.

Obama Is Illegitimate Because Of
*His British Citizenship At Birth,
*His Kenyan Citizenship From Age 2, And
*His Indonesian Citizenship From Around Age 5 Until Now.

Obama is certainly not a natural born citizen. And possibly not even a citizen of the United States! Obama may in fact be an illegal alien… subject to arrest and deportation to Indonesia. It is possible that Obama did not even bother to become a naturalized citizen of the United States and remains an Indonesian citizen even today. Appropriate federal records would be on file if Obama made application for naturalization. If they exist, they have not been made public. If Obama did not relinquish his Indonesian citizenship and become a naturalized U.S. citizen upon his return to Hawaii, he remains an Indonesian citizen with the legal name of Barry Soetoro and has not been a U.S. citizen since being adopted by Lolo Soetoro in Indonesia in 1966 or 1967.

If, in fact, Obama was born in Kenya, under the laws of the United States, in effect at the time of his birth, if a child was born abroad, and one parent was a U.S. citizen (which here, of course, would be Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham), Obama’s mother would have had to have lived ten (10) years in the U.S., five (5) of which were after she reached the age of fourteen (14). At the time of Obama’s birth, his mother was only eighteen (18), and therefore did not meet the residency requirements under the law to give her son (Obama) U.S. Citizenship. The laws in effect at the time of Obama’s birth did not recognize U.S. Citizenship at birth of children born abroad to a U.S. Citizen parent and a non-citizen parent, if the citizen parent was under the age of nineteen (19) at the time of the birth of the child. Obama’s mother did not qualify under the law on the books to register Obama as a citizen. http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=4099.0

Obama has admitted that he was born in 1961 to a mother alleged to be an American citizen who was 18 at the time of his birth, and a father who was a Kenyan national and a British citizen, not a U.S. resident.

Pursuant to Section 301(a)(7) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of June 27, 1952, 66 Stat. 163, 235, 8 U.S.C. §1401(b), Matter of S-F- and G-, 2 I & N Dec. 182 (B.I. A.) approved (Att'y Gen. 1944), the federal statute in effect at that time, the candidate could not acquire American citizenship, because he was born out of the country and only one parent was an American, and she was disqualified under the Act because she did not have five continuous years of residency following her fourteenth birthday before the child was born, as she was only 18. Sen. Obama could not have become an American citizen except through a naturalization process at the time of his birth.

The immigration laws in effect at the time of and as amended five years after Obama's birth simply did not allow for citizenship at birth for children born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent and a non-citizen parent if the citizen parent was under the age of nineteen.

http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=4098.0 Obama’s American citizen parent, Ann Dunham, had to have been a resident of the United States for 10 years, at least five of which were over the age of 14. Dunham did not meet that requirement (of the Nationality Act of 1940, revised June 1952) until her 19th birthday in late November of 1961, almost four months after Obama was born. The law confers U.S. nationality on a child born outside the United States only under certain circumstances, including: “(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States, who prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years.” Thus Obama was not only not a natural born citizen, he was not even a citizen of the United States.

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OBAMA BECAME A U.S. NATURALIZED CITIZEN AT AGE 19: "U.S. law does not allow U.S. nationality to be conferred on a foreign born baby of a foreign father unless the mother has a total of 14 years U.S. residency, five (5) of those years post age 14. I believe that is 8 U.S.C. 1401. However, Berg has Obama, Sr. as the legal husband and Dunham the wife. Obama, Sr. had a first wife, and no codiciles of divorce. Therefore, the Obama-Dunham marriage was void ad initio per bigamy. This changes applicable naturalization statute from 1401 to 1409(c), which is an out of wedlock provision requiring only one year (1) of U.S. residency post age 14 for the single mother to confer U.S. nationality. Born in Kenya an illegitimate child to a bigamist father, Obama was a full British citizen at birth. Taking the child to Hawaii and divording Obama, Sr. (not necessary due to bigamy), Obama, Jr. would have become a U.S. citizen eventually, but the process would have been speeded up through a letter to the U.S. Secretary of State."

Obama, Sr., an Arab-African Muslim by birth, but an atheist by admission, already had two children with a woman in Kenya named Kezia (b. 1938). The senior Obama may or may not have been legally married to Kezia. Some have speculated that their marriage was only a tribal marriage, and therefore not legally recognized. Depending on his marital status in Kenya, Obama’s marriage to Dunham may not therefore have been legal. (Obama and Kezia eventually reunite after he separates from Ann Dunham, and Kezia bears two more of his children.) After learning of the planned wedding to Dunham, Obama, Sr.’s father writes a long, angry letter to her parents saying he “didn’t approve of the marriage” and “didn’t want the Obama blood sullied by a white woman.”

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Even if Obama was, in fact, born in Hawaii, he lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother re-married and moved to Indonesia with her Indonesian husband. The Nationality Act of 1940 provided for the loss of citizenship when a child became naturalized in a foreign country upon the naturalization of his or her parent having custody of such child. Obama’s mother expatriated her U.S. Citizenship when she married Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia, and relocated with her son (Obama) to Indonesia. http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=4099.0

Even if Obama was born in Hawaii, an important issue may be whether he became and may still be an Indonesian citizen; his school records and passport records may hold the key to why he is keeping his past shrouded in secrecy.

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Stanley Ann Dunham was divorced from the candidate's natural father shortly after the birth of the candidate and following her return to Hawaii where she allegedly had the birth registered. She then met and married an Indonesian national named Lo lo Soetoro. In 1967 or 1968, she relocated with Lo lo Soetoro and Obama to Indonesia, where she had a second child, whose birth was subsequently registered in Hawaii. With the adoption of Obama by Lolo Soetoro, his birth name was changed as a matter of law from Barack Hussein Obama to Barry Soetoro, and the candidate became an Indonesian national. Again, at this time, American citizenship was not available to Sen. Obama except through naturalization. In 1971, Stanley Ann Dunham and Barry Soetoro returned to Hawaii. Ms. Dunham did not divorce her second husband Lolo Soetoro until 1980, Hawaii Case No. 1DV00-0-117619. The candidate then attended colleges in the United States, including Occidental in California, Columbia University, and Harvard Law School. When he was 20 years old, he traveled to Pakistan, as detailed in his book, Dreams of my Father. He did not have an American passport at that time. His own website claims that Sen. Obama's Kenyan citizenship did not expire until 1982. In 1980, Sen. Obama was not an American citizen and his legal name was Barry Soetoro. He has never shown evidence that he has naturalized as an American citizen, and he has never produced any document that indicates a name change from Barry Soetoro to Barack Hussein Obama.

Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship and any U.S. citizenship would therefore have to be relinquished.

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OBAMA BECAME A U.S. NATURALIZED CITIZEN AT AGE 19: "Obama did not become a U.S. citizen until age 19. Obama successfully achieved U.S. citizenship from his birthright nationality at birth at age 19 via the 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act, §349(a)[1988]. This law allows a child reaching majority to reverse naturalization forced upon him/her as a minor by parents or legal guardian. U.S. law does not allow U.S. nationality to be conferred on a foreign born baby of a foreign father unless the mother has a total of 14 years U.S. residency, five (5) of those years post age 14. Born in Kenya an illegitimate child to a bigamist father, Obama was a full British citizen at birth. Taking the child to Hawaii and divording Obama, Sr. (not necessary due to bigamy), Obama, Jr. would have become a U.S. citizen eventually, but the process would have been speeded up through a letter to the U.S. Secretary of State. Obama's Kenyan or Hawaiian birth are moot distinctions, once Stanley Ann Dunham took the child to Indonesia after marrying Lolo Soetoro. Indonesian law automatically claimed jurisdiction over the mother and child and they were naturalized Indonesians. Obama remained a naturalized Indonesian (from dual British and U.S. nationalites) until he satisfied the 1952 Act's five-year continuous residency requirement from age 14-18. At age 19, Obama was a naturalized citizen."

Purportedly, Obama was legally adopted by his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, which made Obama an Indonesian citizen according to Indonesian law. Because Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship, Obama thus lost his U.S. citizenship (if he even had it) when he became an Indonesian citizen in or about 1967. At that point, Obama also ceased to be a Kenyan citizen, according to both Indonesian and Kenyan law. Indonesian law would also have required Ann Dunham to renounce her U.S. citizenship for her marriage to Lolo Soetoro to have been considered legal in that country. If, after Obama returned to Hawaii, he applied for and was granted American citizenship he would be a naturalized citizen and not a natural born citizen, and would therefore be ineligible to serve as president of the United States. It is possible that Obama did not even bother to become a naturalized citizen of the United States and remains an Indonesian citizen even today. Appropriate federal records would be on file if Obama made application for naturalization. If they exist, they have not been made public. Indonesia's policy of not allowing dual citizenship must be respected by the United States in accordance with the Hague Convention of 1930. Further, Obama, as a child, was not specifically required to renounce his U.S.—that would have been an automatic result of his adoption by Lolo Soetoro. Fair or not, the consequence of Dunham’s marriage to Soetoro and Soetoro’s adoption of Obama was that he became an Indonesian citizen… regardless of whether he understood the situation at age five or six.

Indonesia today still does not allow dual citizenship. Under Indonesia law, once Obama became a naturalized citizen by virtue of adoption he could not lose that status without relinquishing his citizenship in writing, under oath. If he did that, the government of Indonesia would have those records. If he did not do so by age 21, Obama is to this day still considered an Indonesian citizen by that country. His place of birth or the nationality of his mother is irrelevant; Indonesian law takes precedence under The Master Nationality Rule of Article 4 of the Hague Convention on 1930. Upon returning to the United States from Indonesia, Obama eventually satisfied the “five-years-after-age-14” residency requirement of the 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act, thus making him a naturalized citizen of the United States at age 19. Residing in the United States for five or more years after attaining age 14 established the intent of Obama to become a U.S. citizen under the law, which supersedes the Indonesian citizenship over which he had no control because of his age at adoption.

Obama, after returning to Hawaii from Indonesia and upon turning age 18, could possibly have relinquished his Indonesian citizenship and become a naturalized U.S. citizen, with the proper paperwork filed through the U.S. State Department and by swearing an oath of allegiance to the United States. Some believe that Obama did not do so, and that he never legally changed his name from Barry Soetoro (granted upon adoption) back to Barack Obama, Jr.

If Obama did not relinquish his Indonesian citizenship and become a naturalized U.S. citizen upon his return to Hawaii, he remains an Indonesian citizen with the legal name of Barry Soetoro and has not been a U.S. citizen since being adopted by Lolo Soetoro in Indonesia in 1966 or 1967. Thus, he is not only ineligible to be President of the United States, he would also have been ineligible to be a U.S. Senator. Obama’s repeated failure to provide documentation to prove he is a U.S. citizen suggests to many that it does not exist, and he is therefore possibly perpetrating a colossal fraud on the 300 million citizens of the United States. Obama may in fact be an illegal alien… subject to arrest and deportation to Indonesia. Obama could also be subject to a massive class action fraud lawsuit on behalf of everyone who submitted donations to his presidential campaign (over $600 million) under the incorrect belief that he was legally eligible to serve as president. Arguably, Obama and key leaders of the Democrat National Committee could also be prosecuted under the Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO).

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BORN IN THE U.S. OR ABROAD Whether or not Obama was born in Hawaii, at the time of his birth he was a

citizen of the United Kingdom by virtue of his father's citizenship. On December 12, 1963, Kenya became independent, and pursuant to the Independence Constitution of Kenya, Sen. Obama became a Kenyan citizen on December 12, 1963. http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=4098.0

Obama states he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. If that is the case, he was then both an American citizen and a British citizen at birth because his father was a citizen of the protectorate of British East Africa. Because the region had, in 1961, not yet declared its independence from Great Britain, Obama was, like his father, a British citizen under Section 32(1) of the British Nationality Act of 1948. Both Obama, Sr. and Obama, Jr. then automatically became citizens of Kenya when that independent nation was formed in 1963. Obama’s British/Kenyan citizenship automatically expired when he turned age 21, but he was born with dual citizenship and split loyalties.

One of Obama’s Web sites, FightTheSmears.com, affirms, “When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.’s children. Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4, 1982.” This statement by the Obama campaign admits that he was a British citizen at birth and thus had dual citizenship (even if he was born in the United States).

Some have argued that Section 1 of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution allows Obama to serve as president. The relevant part reads, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” This Amendment was meant to prevent the Supreme Court from ruling as unconstitutional the Civil Rights Act of 1866, which granted citizenship to former slaves. Nothing in the 14th Amendment, however, changes the requirement that a president must be a natural born citizen, rather than simply a citizen or a naturalized citizen.

In an effort to squelch the born-in-Kenya rumors, Obama’s campaign posts an image of his Hawaiian birth certificate on the Internet; it is immediately suspected of being a forgery. The story breaks on Pamela Geller’s AtlasShrugs.com Web site (which has consistently had the most thorough coverage). The birth certificate image shows evidence of being computer- generated, and it represents the limited short form birth record document rather than the more detailed long form document (sometimes referred to as the “ribbon copy” because it is produced with ink from the typewriter’s ribbon). Obama’s legitimate long form birth certificate may possibly list a place of birth other than Hawaii, a father other than Obama, Sr., or no father at all. Of course, a newborn infant’s mother can give the hospital the name of just about anyone as the father and it will likely be recorded.

Researcher Dr. Ron Polarik performed an exhaustive examination of the various Obama birth certificate images available on the Internet and states that the document is a fake. Polarik alleges that no original paper Certification of Live Birth (COLB) corresponding to the image on the Internet exists. He states that the online document was computer-generated and not a scanned image of any authentic Obama COLB. Polarik also points out that the 2007 seal shown on Obama’s alleged 2007 COLB looks nothing like the authentic 2007 Hawaiian seal on actual documents for that year. The birth certificate provided by the Obama campaign lists the father’s race as “African,” a term that likely would not have been used for a newborn child’s race in 1961. A birth certificate in that period would probably have listed the race as “Negro” or “colored.” Those may not be politically correct terms today, but they were in widespread use in 1961. The use of the word “African” on the Obama form thus further suggests that the document provided by his campaign was a newly created fabrication, prepared by someone unfamiliar with 1961 society.

Government authorities in Kenya have stated that all documents regarding Obama would be “under seal.” That statement itself raises questions, because if Obama were born in Hawaii, Kenya would have no Obama birth records to seal. Sarah Obama further states that she was present in the Mombasa delivery room when Obama was born. One half-brother and one half-sister of Obama also claim he was born in Kenya. That would be consistent with a purported stop by Dunham to the state of Washington on the return trip to Hawaii, and with the possible existence of only a Hawaiian register of birth, rather than an actual Hawaiian birth certificate. The Chicago Tribune was told by Dunham’s friend Susan Blake that Dunham visited her in Seattle with the newborn infant

shortly after his birth. That visit to Blake makes more sense as part of a necessary return trip from Kenya to Hawaii through Seattle than as an optional pleasure trip from Hawaii to Seattle and back to Hawaii simply to show off a newborn baby.

A critical issue with regard to the Obama long form birth certificate is that Hawaiian law (Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17.8) allows the State of Hawaii to issue a certificate of live birth even if the child is born outside the state provided the parents have been legal residents of Hawaii for at least one year immediately preceding the birth. Obama, Sr. had been a resident of Hawaii for at least one year prior to August 1961.

The birth document provided by the Obama campaign—whether valid or a forgery—is the short form. But having a Hawaiian certification of birth proves only that the birth was registered in Hawaii, it does not prove that the named individual was born in Hawaii. The place of birth is recorded on the vault copy document, but that is precisely the document that Obama refuses to produce. To those who argue, “That’s all nonsense, if you have a Hawaiian birth certificate you must have been born in Hawaii,” they need to account for the fact that Obama’s half-sister Maya Soetoro-Ng also has a Hawaiian short form certification of birth yet readily admits she was born in Indonesia in 1970.

Some suggest that the Hawaiian statute was intended to increase the number of Hawaiian citizens in order to get additional federal money. Some have also argued that Hawaii’s status as the nation’s 50th state is questionable because the proposition voted on by its citizens only asked the question, “Should Hawaii immediately be admitted into the Union as a State?” and did not also offer the option of total independence. http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=4107.msg17950;topicseen#new http://colony14.net/id41.html

Obama's father was never a U.S. citizen; he was a citizen of Kenya (a British colony at a time) here in the U.S. on a student visa, which by itself made Obama/Soetoro ineligible for presidency, regardless of whether he was born in this country or Kenya, or whether he later lost his U.S. citizenship while immigrating to Indonesia and obtaining Indonesian citizenship (by being adopted and naturalized), and later reaffirming his Indonesian citizenship while traveling on an Indonesian passport as an adult, and also most likely obtaining taxpayer funded financial aid as a Foreign Exchange student from Indonesia. (Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship and any U.S. citizenship would therefore have to be relinquished).

You can't talk only about the birth certificate and not see an elephant in the room, which is Obama's British citizenship at birth, based on his father's citizenship. You can't talk about his birth certificate only and not demand immediate investigation of his numerous reported social security numbers, reported forgery of the Selective Service Certificate, perjury on the Illinois Bar application, all the evidence of campaign contributions fraud, charitable foundations fraud, tax fraud and numerous reports of his supporters being engaged in cyber crimes, intimidation, harassment, identity theft and all the other related crimes.

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A statutory natural born citizen is not necessarily the same thing as a Constitutional natural born citizen. The U.S. State Department warns against confusing the two concepts: ...the fact that someone is a natural born citizen pursuant to a statute does not necessarily imply that he or she is such a citizen for Constitutional purposes (U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual -- 7 FAM 1130). "Statutory natural born citizen" is the meaning of "natural born citizen" when such meaning depends on a Federal or State law. As Federal or State laws change, the meaning of "statutory natural born citizen" changes accordingly. "Constitutional natural born citizen" is the meaning of "natural born citizen" as used in the Constitution. If Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, he might be regarded as a statutory natural born citizen. But a statutory natural born citizen is not necessarily a Constitutional natural born citizen. http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=1518.msg17882#msg17882 http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3620.msg17927;topicseen#new

Not A Natural-Born Citizen By Reason Of The Citizenship Of His Father. Ineligible By Reason Of The Citizenship Of His Father. Nowhere to Run

Obama has been running from his entire past for years now. His birth, college and passport records remain under lock and key. As the filibuster-proof Democrat congress works to force all U.S. national security secrets out into the public venue, they continue to provide cover for their messiah and run interference for the unconstitutional resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. But sooner or later, they will run out of room to run and places to hide. Their efforts to deflect public attention by attacking the U.S. intelligence community could be the final fuse that ignites a political implosion of cataclysmic proportions. http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3132.msg17893;topicseen#new http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12904 Barack Obama is less of a person than an image -- a brand Savior or Saboteur? Obama in a Realistic Light

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Barack Obama is less of a person than an image— a brand. People see whatever they want as they do on a Rorschach test. But does anyone really know him? In fact, he is:

An empty suit. A man with no birth certificate. A man who was deserted in childhood by his biological father. A man whose birth records, both in the United States and Kenya, are sealed by government order.

A man whose childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, spied on U.S. military installations in Hawaii for the Soviet Union, edited a communist newspaper, authored pornographic novels, and wrote poetry in praise of Joseph Stalin. A man mentored by and still supported by radical Muslims.

A man who promised transparency in government, but has spent over a million dollars in legal fees hiding information that would determine his eligibility to be President. A former drug user. A man whose academic records are sealed from kindergarten through law school. A man who arrived in New York in June of 1981 without enough money to get

a hotel room, but one month later flew to Indonesia and Pakistan. Why did he go? Who paid his expenses? A man who traveled to Pakistan when it was illegal for U.S. citizens to do so. So what country’s passport did he use?

A man whose Law School Admission Test scores and grades at Columbia University are known to have been mediocre, but was admitted to Harvard Law School through the intervention of a Saudi named Khalid al-Mansour. A law review editor who never published an article in any law review. A lawyer with no significant accomplishments in the law and no reputation in

the legal community. A former State and U.S. Senator, who never authored a piece of legislation. A disciple of the Marxist Saul Alinsky. A product of the Chicago political machine—the most corrupt political organization in America. A man who selects Marxists, corrupt politicians, and criminals as his close political associates and personal friends. A man whose presidential candidacy was endorsed by the Democratic Socialists of America, the Socialist International, and the Workers International League. A man lauded for the literary brilliance of two memoirs, both of which were ghostwritten by others. A so-called Christian who says that knowing when human life begins is “above

his pay-grade,” but somehow knows that abortion is permissible at any stage. A man who thinks “waterboarding” is immoral, but that partial-birth abortion is moral.

A man who publicly laments slavery in America—which was abolished 150 years ago—but praises Islam, which still practices both slavery and the sexual mutilation of young girls.

A man who speaks endlessly about helping the less fortunate, but gives almost none of his sizeable income to charity—not even to his half-brother, who is living in squalor in Kenya. A man who had the most left-wing voting record in the United State Senate, but was predicted by the press to “govern from the middle.” A man who has never created a job, met a payroll, or even operated a

lemonade stand, but wants to tell Detroit how to make cars. A President who has never before served as an executive in either the private or the public sector. A Commander-in-Chief who doesn’t know how to shoot a rifle, throw a hand- grenade, drive a tank, fly a plane, or con a ship. A Commander-in-Chief who has publicly divulged some of our nation’s most important intelligence secrets.

A man who has been put in charge of the largest economic engine that ever existed, but has never invested in the stock market and admits total ignorance of it. A President who says that science will guide his administration, but has no education in the sciences. A man who is proficient in reading what is written for him on a teleprompter, but jerks and stammers his way through any off-the-cuff speaking. A man whose health records are sealed from childhood to the present day. A man whose educational records are sealed from childhood through law school.

A man who spent 20 years in a church whose pastor espouses Marxist Liberation Theology, anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, and anti-Semitism, but claims he never heard his pastor utter anti-American, and anti-Semitic statements.

A man who added more to the National Debt in 100 days than all other Presidents did in the past 220 years, yet feels qualified to lecture Americans about “fiscal responsibility”.

A man who publicly expressed disdain for the U.S. Constitution on a Chicago radio station because it limited the government’s ability to “redistribute wealth.” The first American President to bow before a foreign head of state—a Muslim dictator.

A man who sits and listens submissively while his country is castigated by Daniel Ortega—a Communist thug whose own daughter accused him of raping her. A narcissist who gave the Queen of England a present from the United States -- an iPod containing recordings of his own speeches. A so-called Christian who officially declared “Pride Month” for a lifestyle that the Bible calls an abomination.

A man who wanted Americans to ignore his Muslim name during his election campaign, yet boasts of his Muslim name when he travels to Muslim countries. A man who can name hundreds of America’s shortcomings, yet none of its great accomplishments. A President who claims the moral high ground by closing Gitmo yet supports the transfer of terror suspects to countries where horrific torture is certain.

A President who scoffed at being called a socialist yet acted to nationalize the auto industry, the banking industry, and the insurance industry . . . and now seeks to nationalize the healthcare industry. A President who violates private property rights, the sanctity of contracts, and

the rule of law—three essential principles that go back over a thousand years in the Common Law tradition. A man who promised 95% of all Americans a tax cut, but is increasing taxes on 100% of the population through inflation—the cruelest tax of all.

A lawyer who represented ACORN—an organization now indicted in several states for voter fraud—whose stated goal is to get as many people on welfare as possible in order to destroy our financial system. A President who cheated GM’s bondholders by giving their property to the UAW in a political payoff.

An American President who frequently criticizes his own country when speaking in foreign countries, but never praises America’s generosity, goodness or greatness. A President whose Secretary of the Treasury cheated on his taxes—as did several other appointees and advisors. A President who, despite the current federal debt of 100 trillion dollars, wants to add the greatest debt ever by nationalizing healthcare. A President who scoffs at being called a socialist, yet has appointed 28 “Czars” to circumvent constitutional government, including:

A “Science Czar” who has advocated compulsory abortions for American women and the “surrender of sovereignty” to a “comprehensive Planetary Regime.” A self-professed communist as his “Green Jobs Czar”. A “Pay Czar” to regulate the pay of corporate executives.

A President who swore an oath to “preserve, protect and defend the constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic,” yet has nominated a domestic enemy of the Constitution to the Supreme Court. A President whose Homeland Security Chief classified pro-lifers, veterans, and supporters of traditional marriage as terrorists.

A President who stood silent while the Iranian government hacked unarmed protestors to death with axes, because it was an internal matter, but freely offers his opinions about the internal affairs of Israel and Honduras. A President who decreed that true acts of terrorism must now be described as “man-made disasters.” A President who cracks hurtful jokes about Special Olympians. A President who refused to intercept or inspect a North Korean ship virtually certain to be carrying Weapons of Mass Destruction toBurma. A President who wants to cancel all missile defenses while rogue nations are developing long-range ballistic missiles. An American President who blames the violence in Mexico on America. A Commander in Chief who claims to have been unaware that Air Force One was taken on a terrifying, low-level photo-op over Manhattan.

A President who berates American CEO’s for flying in private planes at private expense on company business, but whose wife spends hundreds of thousands tax payer dollars flying to Paris for a shopping spree. A President who promised a transparent administration, but requires all questions be screened before “impromptu” appearances. A man who freely admitted that his energy policies are designed to bankrupt the American coal industry. A President who has presided over the loss of 14.7 million jobs and whose “energy policy” will cause the loss of another 1 million jobs. A President whose “energy policy” will increase the average American’s utility bills by over $2,000 a year in the middle of the Great Recession. A man about whom liberal journalist Tom Brokaw said, “There’s a lot about him we don’t know.” . . .just one week before the election.

The vast majority of Americans do not know who he is, but someone surely does. Someone paid for his travel expenses to Pakistan and Indonesia. Someone engineered legal challenges to all of his election opponents for the State Senate and had them disqualified. Someone straightened and leveled his path to the U.S. Senate when a Democrat Judge made public the child custody records of his Republican opponent. When he was a candidate for the U.S. Senate, someone arranged for him to speak at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. Someone saw to it that all of his records were sealed, both at home and abroad. Someone assembled the massive organization for his run for the Presidency. Someone knows all about him. Who? restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum email exchanges RE: Obama Not Even A United States Citizen! The Case Against Obama The Illegal Alien... subject to arrest and deportation to Indonesia. From: Paul Dunk Sent: Friday, 24 July 2009 12:19:52 AM To: Vik Bataillie Kenya not Indonesia. From: vikaryan Obama Not Even A United States Citizen! The Case Against Obama The Illegal Alien http://www.scribd.com/doc/17559086/Obama-Not-Even-A-United-States-Citizen-The-Case- Against-Obama-The-Illegal-Alien- Description

Obama is illegitimate due to 1) his British Citizenship at birth, 2) his Kenyan Citizenship from age 2, and 3) his Indonesian Citizenship from around age 5 until now. Obama is certainly not a natural born citizen. And possibly not even a citizen of the United States! Obama may in fact be an illegal alien… subject to arrest and deportation to Indonesia. Obama could also be subject to a massive class action fraud lawsuit on behalf of everyone who submitted donations to his presidential campaign under the incorrect belief that he was legally eligible to serve as president. Arguably, Obama and key leaders of the Democrat National Committee could also be prosecuted under the Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO). It is possible that Obama did not even bother to become a naturalized citizen of the United States and remains an Indonesian citizen even today. Appropriate federal records would be on file if Obama made application for naturalization. If they exist, they have not been made public. If Obama did not relinquish his Indonesian citizenship and become a naturalized U.S. citizen upon his return to Hawaii, he remains an Indonesian citizen with the legal name of Barry Soetoro and has not been a U.S. citizen since being adopted by Lolo Soetoro in Indonesia in 1966 or 1967. His own website claims that Sen. Obama's Kenyan citizenship did not expire until 1982. In 1980, Sen. Obama was not an

American citizen and his legal name was Barry Soetoro. He has never shown evidence that he has naturalized as an American citizen, and he has never produced any document that indicates a name change from Barry Soetoro to Barack Hussein Obama.

My point is that Obama hasn’t needed any evidence.

Which is fortunate since he has none. The denial of standing isn't something to celebrate. And it's lazy crutch. They teach that in law school:

"Standing doctrine confuses both lower courts and litigants, because the Court manipulates the doctrine to serve other objectives. When the Court wants to reach the merits of a case, the standing doctrine is often relaxed. Conversely, when the Court wishes to avoid deciding the merits of a case--or perhaps, when it wants to shut a whole category of cases out of court --, the requirements for standing are tightened."

link to source

Mr. Rogers said:

I do not understand how someone could claim he was born in the US but had lost his citizenship as a child. That is almost impossible to do.

While it is not impossible, it is highly unlikely. If Obama was over the age of 5 at the time of the adoption, he would have been disqualified from being able to take Indonesian citizenship. Considering Lolo and Stanley married in March of 1965, it would have been a mad dash to have Obama naturalized, provided it would even be approved. Indonesian Law No. 62 of 1958 states:

Article 2.

(1)A foreign child of less than 5 years age who is adopted by a citizen of the Republic of Indonesia acquires the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia, if such an adoption is declared legal by the Pengadilan Negeri at the residence of the person adopting the child.

(2)Said declaration of legality by the Pengadilan Negeri shall be requested by the person adopting the child within 1 year after such an adoption or within 1 year after enforcement of this law.

These issues make this theory highly implausible.

Which is fortunate since he has none. The denial of standing isn’t something to celebrate. And it’s lazy crutch. They teach that in law school:

“Standing doctrine confuses both lower courts and litigants, because the Court manipulates the doctrine to serve other objectives. When the Court wants to reach the merits of a case, the standing doctrine is often relaxed. Conversely, when the Court wishes to avoid deciding the merits of a case—or perhaps, when it wants to shut a whole category of cases out of court —, the requirements for standing are tightened.”
link to source

All any court will ever need is a certified copy of a Barack Hussein Obama II Hawaii Certification of Live Birth and if his attorneys want to do overkill they can include notarized letters of authentification from Dr. Fukino (or the new Hawaii Director of Health) and Dr. ALvin T. Onaka, the Hawaii state Registrar of Vital Statistics.

Standing is no legal obstacle for any halfway decent attorney. You simply present the right lead plaintiff in a case, one who suffered direct harm from the event that you are suing about.
If I were a birther attorney, I would have convinced either John McCain or Sarah Palin to be the lead plaintiff and I would have sweetened the pot for them to take that role with no primary opposition in 2010 for McCain and a guarantee of big Republican National Committee funding for Governor Palin in 2012, if she chooses to run.

I find it hard to believe that NO judge in America wants to rule on Obama eligibility.

Judges don’t like to be reversed on appeal and the very first thing that any defendant’s attorney submits in any civil lawsuit is a motion to dismiss. That’s law school 101.
Not one Obama eligibility lawsuit has been reversed on appeal and ordered to grant standing to any plaintiff.
Finally, not every Obama eligibility lawsuit has been dismissed on Article III standing grounds. Some have been dismissed for “failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted.” Meaning the Courts have no jurisdiction to reverse the outcome of a national election.

You are correct. If his mother were old enough to pass citizenship, he would be a US citizen. That is not the same as a Natural Born Citizen. A Natural Born Citizen must have 2 citizen parents.

No court has ruled that to be the case regarding Barack Obama and no committee of Congress has convened a hearing to examine whether Obama is a natural born citizen or not.
The reason for no court action might be because the Indiana Court of Appeals already ruled that “Based on the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the boundaries of the United States are “natural born citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”—Ankeny et. al. v The Governor of Indiana. Mitch Daniels
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/in-court-of-appeals/1501011.html

>The intent of the Founders is clear: they wanted an American born and bred to occupy the highest office of the land. Until Obama, this wasn’t much in dispute. Now his apologists claim any foreign national can find an underage American and spawn a child that fulfills the Constitutional requirements. PC has brought us to a very bad place.<

Yes they did. It was clear that they wanted no one to be in such a position, equal to the other branches of government by themselves to have any loyalty to another nation.
It was such a problem, they had to grant themselves waivers of a sort to have presidents for the first few years since they understood that no one could actually fulfill that requirement by that time.

This is the argument at it’s base. If anyone could have been conferred a natural born citizen, by the mere presence of being born on American soil. why the waiver for so many presidents? Simply because it would take more than one generation to produce a Natural born citizen by definition.

It may have been PC, but just as guilty is the lack of education and forgetting the importance of these reasons. Certainly Obama and his decisions such as siding with the Muslim brotherhood (no doubt because of his Muslim upbringing) to be part of Egypt’s new leaders is a clear example of WHY this was such an important idea even today.

If there are no records, then how can anyone ever prove that 0bama held American citizenship?

There are not only records, there are statements of officials of the state of Hawaii who can testify under oath in a court of law or before a congressional committee at any time, should they be needed. Thus far, in the four years since Obama announced his candidacy, they haven’t been needed to testify.

STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen.
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf

Minor v Happersett never approached the question of native born Vs natural born. It was not the question nor was it part of the answer.
The question was about women voting. It declared women citizens jsut as men based upon where they were born.

‘All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States, and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law, which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States. Nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction, the equal protection of the laws.’

It never approached the question of what natural born citizen was or is, anymore than a native citizen. The intent of the court was to define who had the right to vote. Not who had the ability to hold the highest office in the land

"A Natural Born Citizen must have 2 citizen parents."

Nope. Just his mother is enough.

My beef is that I believe he was born in Kenya and even if his mother had returned to the US she still failed other rules.

For persons born between December 24, 1952 and November 14, 1986, a person is a U.S. citizen if all of the following are true (except if born out-of-wedlock)[7]:

1.The person's parents were married at the time of birth
2.One of the person's parents was a U.S. citizen when the person was born
3.The citizen parent lived at least ten years in the United States before the child's birth;
4.A minimum of 5 of these 10 years in the United States were after the citizen parent's 14th birthday.

For persons born out-of-wedlock (mother) if all the following apply:
1.the mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of the person’s birth and
2.the mother was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the person’s birth.[8] (See link for those born to a U.S. father out-of-wedlock)[7]

“Certainly Obama and his decisions such as siding with the Muslim brotherhood (no doubt because of his Muslim upbringing) to be part of Egypt’s new leaders is a clear example of WHY this was such an important idea even today.”

Yes, we are living through the nightmare/horror of exactly what the Founders intended to spare us. Obama is a foreigner in every sense of the word. Anybody who’s watched him, read his writings and studied his associations and still thinks he even nominally likes traditional America is either blind or mentally challenged. This man despises the very concept of this country as founded.

One of the very few honest things he ever said was that he would fundamentally change the US. He also promised to destroy the coal industry and jack energy prices through the roof. Most things he said were lies, but here and there the truth broke through.

A man whose childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, spied on U.S. military installations in Hawaii for the Soviet Union ...

I didn't know this.

It's not a proven fact, just a conclusion somebody jumped to.

FMD did follow the Communist Party line in his journalism and presumably was a party member, but not everyone in the party was a spy who reported to Soviet handlers. Those whom the FBI called subversives were more likely to be agents of influence who spread communist ideas and promoted the party lines as actual spies.

There were 80,000 members in the CPUSA at its high point in 1944. The USSR didn't need that many spies and wanted them to be as professional as possible. If every spy were in the party and every party member were a spy it would have been easy to break the spy rings.

I wonder where she hid those records, since the Governor of that same state has been unable to provide them to us. Her testimony is worthless.

Maybe the new Governor should just bite his liberal Democrat partisan tongue and call up the former Republican Director of Health and ask her where those records are.
Abercrombie is probably loath to have to ask a Republican anything.
I agree with you that Dr. Fukino’s testimony or sworn deposition is worthless since the birthers can’t find any judge in America to let a challenge to Obama’s eligibility reach an evidentiary phase of a trial on the merits.

No US Supreme Court decision has found a child born to one or two alien parents to be an Article II natural born Citizen.

And the current Supreme Court has refused to even look into the issue while the current Chief Justice administered the Oath of Office to an individual who was born of one US citizen parent.

In my humble opinion, there is one overriding, serious Constitutional issue that I wish the current High Court would address with a definitive, precedent setting opinion: is there any difference between an Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 “natural born citizen” and a 14th Amendment & US Code TITLE 8, CHAPTER 12, SUBCHAPTER III, Part I, Section 1401 “Citizen of the United States-at-birth.?”
If the Supremes could resolve that question, I’d be happy.

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