Posted on 02/13/2011 3:34:00 PM PST by NoLibZone
AKA Obama - How Many Names Does This Guy Have?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=192917
See Aristotle The Hun’s research on AKA Obama:
Obama “I have nothing to hide but I’m hiding it.”
How many different name is President Obama legally authorized to use?
Is his legal name Barack Hussein Obama II, Barack Hussein Obama (without the designation “II” indicating Barack Obama Jr.), Barry Soetoro or Barack Hussein Obama Soebarkah?
All of these names appear in various documents produced since 2008 regarding Obama’s life story and his passport records.
The White House has refused to release Obama’s long-form birth certificate filed at his birth that lists the hospital where he was born and the name of the physician who attended the birth. Also, the White House has refused to disclose to the public his passport and travel records as maintained by the U.S. State Department.
The White House released this week a video displaying Obama’s passport, but the name displayed does not match the name on the Certification of Live Birth, or COLB, prominently displayed on websites favorable to Obama during the 2008 presidential campaign.
In a thread that drew over 1,000 comments to a Politico.com article yesterday by former President George W. Bush speechwriter Josh Gerstein, titled “Don’t look, birthers: Obama’s passport,” was the following comment:
If you go back to the Birth Registration (not Birth Certificate) that was released by the Daily Kos, Obie’s was Obama II (named after his father). If the “II” is part of his actual name (as per Hawaiian birth registration records), how is it that this is missing from the current passport? Something doesn’t compute here. Can any of the leftist apologists explain what’s going on here, and why their hero’s actual name isn’t shown?
(Story continues below)
Another contributor stated:
Anyone believes anything this guy or ANY prez says just because he says it is a foolish sheep. Question everything. Don’t trust. VERIFY. Why is it so impossible to verify something as simple as his birthplace? When did he change his name back to Obama from Soetoro? How can he be adopted by an Indonesian citizen and not be Indonesian? Where the hell are the real journalists?
Remarkably, nearly two years into his presidency, Obama’s legal name remains a mystery.
The American public still has no definitive documentation regarding many basic questions about Obama’s past. That includes whether or not he was officially adopted by his Indonesian stepfather when he was in Indonesia as a child from 1967 through 1971, or whether he used a U.S. or an Indonesian passport when he traveled to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981. Obama made the trip after completing his second year at Occidental College in California. It is still unknown whether he applied for admission or student aid as a foreign student when attending Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School.
Variations
The Hawaii COLB produced by pro-Obama websites such as DailyKos.com, Politifact.com, FactCheck.com and FightTheSmears.com display his name as “Barack Hussein Obama II,” although the presidential passport shown by the White House last Friday lists his name officially only as “Barack Hussein Obama,” without adding the “II.”
As WND has reported, the Associated Press released Obama’s school registration form from St. Francis Assisi School in Jakarta show him listed officially as Barry Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen.
WND has also reported that in a passport amendment submitted Aug. 13, 1968, Ann Dunham, Obama’s mother, identified her son with an Indonesian surname, Barack Hussein Obama II Soebarkah. She asked the State Department to drop him from her U.S. passport, bolstering evidence Barack Obama Jr. became a citizen of Indonesia when he moved to the Southeast Asian nation with his stepmother and stepfather in the late 1960s.
Until Dunham’s passport amendment surfaced in State Department documents released July 29, the name “Soebarkah” had never been referenced or documented in any discussion of Obama in the public record.
Natural born citizen
The constitutional question concerning Obama’s birth records centers on Article 2, Section 1 and the determination whether or not he is a “natural born citizen,” not simply a U.S. citizen.
The threshold for being a “natural born citizen” is sufficiently high that any number of factors may have compromised Obama’s eligibility under the Constitution to be president, including whether he was officially adopted in Indonesia, ever held or traveled under the passport of a foreign nation and if he ever applied for student aid as a foreign student.
The White House’s display of Obama’s passport Friday did not include documentation submitted to the State Department to obtain the passport or any previous U.S. passports the president may have been issued since childhood.
More name mysteries
Obama’s autobiography, “Dreams from My Father,” offers no definitive answer regarding what name or names Obama is legally authorized to use.
In “Dreams,” an additional variation of his name is introduced on page 41, “Barry Obama.” On page 91, however, the author insists that “Barack” is his given name, suggesting “Barry” was used only as a nickname, despite the school registration papers from Indonesia listing him as “Barry Soetoro.”
A word check of a .pdf file of “Dreams” revealed the name “Barry” appears 70 times in “Dreams,” while “Barack” appears 218 times.
The name “Soetoro” does not appear in the autobiography at all, not even in the 14 mentions the author makes of his stepsister, who is always identified only as “Maya,” never as “Maya Soetoro,” or by her married name, Maya Soetoro-Ng.
Absent the transparent disclosure of Obama’s complete birth file from the Hawaii Department of Health, of his passport and travel records by the State Department, and his school records from the three universities he attended – Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School – a definitive answer to how many names Obama is legally authorized to use may remain unobtainable.
“What’s in a name?” There was a President of the United States who was born Leslie Lynch King, Junior and today, that’s a Jeopardy question!
All of that information can be released under subpoena by a grand jury.
Since a Hawaii Certification of Live birth is a computer print out abstract of the Certificate of Live Birth registered with the state on August 8, 1961, the name is:
Barack Hussein Obama II.
The state of Hawaii has released the index data for Barack Hussein Obama II.
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html
AKA Obama - How Many Names Does This Guy Have?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=192917
See Aristotle The Hun’s research on AKA Obama:
Obama “I have nothing to hide but I’m hiding it.”
How many different name is President Obama legally authorized to use?
Is his legal name Barack Hussein Obama II, Barack Hussein Obama (without the designation “II” indicating Barack Obama Jr.), Barry Soetoro or Barack Hussein Obama Soebarkah?
All of these names appear in various documents produced since 2008 regarding Obama’s life story and his passport records.
The White House has refused to release Obama’s long-form birth certificate filed at his birth that lists the hospital where he was born and the name of the physician who attended the birth. Also, the White House has refused to disclose to the public his passport and travel records as maintained by the U.S. State Department.
The White House released this week a video displaying Obama’s passport, but the name displayed does not match the name on the Certification of Live Birth, or COLB, prominently displayed on websites favorable to Obama during the 2008 presidential campaign.
In a thread that drew over 1,000 comments to a Politico.com article yesterday by former President George W. Bush speechwriter Josh Gerstein, titled “Don’t look, birthers: Obama’s passport,” was the following comment:
If you go back to the Birth Registration (not Birth Certificate) that was released by the Daily Kos, Obie’s was Obama II (named after his father). If the “II” is part of his actual name (as per Hawaiian birth registration records), how is it that this is missing from the current passport? Something doesn’t compute here. Can any of the leftist apologists explain what’s going on here, and why their hero’s actual name isn’t shown?
(Story continues below)
Another contributor stated:
Anyone believes anything this guy or ANY prez says just because he says it is a foolish sheep. Question everything. Don’t trust. VERIFY. Why is it so impossible to verify something as simple as his birthplace? When did he change his name back to Obama from Soetoro? How can he be adopted by an Indonesian citizen and not be Indonesian? Where the hell are the real journalists?
Remarkably, nearly two years into his presidency, Obama’s legal name remains a mystery.
The American public still has no definitive documentation regarding many basic questions about Obama’s past. That includes whether or not he was officially adopted by his Indonesian stepfather when he was in Indonesia as a child from 1967 through 1971, or whether he used a U.S. or an Indonesian passport when he traveled to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981. Obama made the trip after completing his second year at Occidental College in California. It is still unknown whether he applied for admission or student aid as a foreign student when attending Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School.
Variations
The Hawaii COLB produced by pro-Obama websites such as DailyKos.com, Politifact.com, FactCheck.com and FightTheSmears.com display his name as “Barack Hussein Obama II,” although the presidential passport shown by the White House last Friday lists his name officially only as “Barack Hussein Obama,” without adding the “II.”
As WND has reported, the Associated Press released Obama’s school registration form from St. Francis Assisi School in Jakarta show him listed officially as Barry Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen.
WND has also reported that in a passport amendment submitted Aug. 13, 1968, Ann Dunham, Obama’s mother, identified her son with an Indonesian surname, Barack Hussein Obama II Soebarkah. She asked the State Department to drop him from her U.S. passport, bolstering evidence Barack Obama Jr. became a citizen of Indonesia when he moved to the Southeast Asian nation with his stepmother and stepfather in the late 1960s.
Until Dunham’s passport amendment surfaced in State Department documents released July 29, the name “Soebarkah” had never been referenced or documented in any discussion of Obama in the public record.
Natural born citizen
The constitutional question concerning Obama’s birth records centers on Article 2, Section 1 and the determination whether or not he is a “natural born citizen,” not simply a U.S. citizen.
The threshold for being a “natural born citizen” is sufficiently high that any number of factors may have compromised Obama’s eligibility under the Constitution to be president, including whether he was officially adopted in Indonesia, ever held or traveled under the passport of a foreign nation and if he ever applied for student aid as a foreign student.
The White House’s display of Obama’s passport Friday did not include documentation submitted to the State Department to obtain the passport or any previous U.S. passports the president may have been issued since childhood.
More name mysteries
Obama’s autobiography, “Dreams from My Father,” offers no definitive answer regarding what name or names Obama is legally authorized to use.
In “Dreams,” an additional variation of his name is introduced on page 41, “Barry Obama.” On page 91, however, the author insists that “Barack” is his given name, suggesting “Barry” was used only as a nickname, despite the school registration papers from Indonesia listing him as “Barry Soetoro.”
A word check of a .pdf file of “Dreams” revealed the name “Barry” appears 70 times in “Dreams,” while “Barack” appears 218 times.
The name “Soetoro” does not appear in the autobiography at all, not even in the 14 mentions the author makes of his stepsister, who is always identified only as “Maya,” never as “Maya Soetoro,” or by her married name, Maya Soetoro-Ng.
Absent the transparent disclosure of Obama’s complete birth file from the Hawaii Department of Health, of his passport and travel records by the State Department, and his school records from the three universities he attended – Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School – a definitive answer to how many names Obama is legally authorized to use may remain unobtainable.
“What’s in a name?” There was a President of the United States who was born “Leslie Lynch King, Junior” and another who was born as “William Blythe” and today, those are Jeopardy questions!
Since a Hawaii Certification of Live birth is a computer print out abstract of the Obama Certificate of Live Birth that was registered with the state on August 8, 1961, the name is:
Barack Hussein Obama II.
The state of Hawaii has released the index data for Barack Hussein Obama II.
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html
Since a Hawaii Certification of Live birth is a computer print out abstract of the Certificate of Live Birth registered with the state on August 8, 1961, the name is:
Barack Hussein Obama II.
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Yes, he shows up right after this strange entry:
DUPLICATE Mae Obado (emphasis added)
http://myveryownpointofview.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/cropped-index-page1.jpg
http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2011/01/26/duplicitous-duplicate/
It seems when the forger created the DUPLICATE entry it created the new entry above the one DUPLICATED. They then over typed the original entry with Obama’s fake information.
Okubo at it again. They are just not that smart in Hawaii apparently.
Standard birfer guano. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. citizenship.
I'm not offended, to be honest though it was strange to have people call you a liar and more when I first reported on his school registration. For more than a year people were saying all kind of things. When the photo came out I was completely vindicated but ... heh no one said sorry for calling you a liar and more for the last year and a half.
What I can tell you FRiend is that I was not in the USA when I was reporting on this and did not enjoy the same protections that Americans in the USA enjoy. The two men who visited me were quite convincing - and at this point I think I understand the reason why. There are much bigger things in play that we sometimes realize.
All I can say is that - I have a reputation here and if you dont believe what I say then I'm sorry - but sometimes loose lips sink ships
Yes, he shows up right after this strange entry:
DUPLICATE Mae Obado (emphasis added)
http://myveryownpointofview.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/cropped-index-page1.jpg
http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2011/01/26/duplicitous-duplicate/
It seems when the forger created the DUPLICATE entry it created the new entry above the one DUPLICATED. They then over typed the original entry with Obama’s fake information.
Okubo at it again. They are just not that smart in Hawaii apparently.
“”Isn’t it bizarre that no prosecuting attorney in the nation is interested in conducting an investigation? “”
They got no balls.
The Supreme Court has told us a natural born citizen is a child born in the country to citizen parents.
The Supreme Court has never told us a natural born citizen is born to one or two alien parents.
The Supreme Court has told us the Law of Nations is law in this country since the Founding.
The Law of Nations tells us a natural born citizen is born to citizen parents.
A Founder told us the Law of Nations is Divine Law.
A Founder has told us the Law of Nations is municipal law.
The First President of the United States told us to prosecute all crimes against the Law of Nations.
The Law of Nations is written in the Constitution.
Why do you two continue to deny these facts.
They've had plenty of opportunities to do this already. Next. If they had it, it would have been shown by now. You know this and pretend otherwise.
Standing is no legal obstacle for any halfway decent attorney.
I just quoted you law-school text that says otherwise. What part of that did you not understand?? "when the Court wishes to avoid deciding the merits of a case—or perhaps, when it wants to shut a whole category of cases out of court —, the requirements for standing are tightened.” This indicates that courts work on the whim of the judges. If they don't want to hear the case (to avoid negative political controversy) it doesn't matter who you handpick as the plaintiff or what harm you want to claim.
I find it hard to believe that NO judge in America wants to rule on Obama eligibility.
Bwah??????? Aren't you one of the folks who keeps coming up with a judicial scorecard?? You know as well as I that if a judge wanted to rule on this case, he or she would have no problem doing so. Again, I quoted law-school text that explains this. "When the Court wants to reach the merits of a case, the standing doctrine is often relaxed." These judges have avoided this case for political reasons, not legal reasons, and some do so in the most loony, immature and illogical ways as I've shown on more than one occasion (and as you usually prove for me along the way).
What you quoted is in context of dual nationality, which is different than the situation described by Ronin.
Sorry, but this wrong. Virginia Minor sued for suffrage because she claimed she was a 14th amendment citizen.
"The argument is, that as a woman, born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, is a citizen of the United States and of the State in which she resides, she has the right of suffrage as one of the privileges and immunities of her citizenship, which the State cannot by its laws or constitution abridge."
The Supreme Court rejected her citizenship claim because she was a natural born citizen.
"But, in our opinion, it did not need this amendment to give them that position. Before its adoption the Constitution of the United States did not in terms prescribe who should be citizens of the United States or of the several States, yet there were necessarily such citizens without such provision."
To explain, it goes on to give a definition of natural born citizens with the requirements of jus soli and jus sanguinis criteria.
"The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners."
Justice Waite clarifies again that he rejects Minor's claim of 14th amendment citizenship because she is already a citizen (by virtue of meeting his definition of natural born citizen).
"The fourteenth amendment did not affect the citizenship of women any more than it did of men. In this particular, therefore, the rights of Mrs. Minor do not depend upon the amendment. She has always been a citizen from her birth, and entitled to all the privileges and immunities of citizenship. The amendment prohibited the State, of which she is a citizen, from abridging any of her privileges and immunities as a citizen of the United States; but it did not confer citizenship on her."
Justice Gray affirms this part of the decision, that Minor's citizenship is determined by jus soli and jus sanguinis factors.
"Minor v. Happersett (1874), 21 Wall. 162, 166-168. The decision in that case was that a woman born of citizen parents within the United States was a citizen of the United States, ...
Gray cited Minor's definition of natural born citizen verbatim. Those factors did NOT apply to Wong Kim Ark. Therefore Gray invented a concept that he called "citizenship by birth" which is the citizenship deriving from the 14th amendment. It is different from natural born citizenship. Gray notes that NBC is defined outside the Constitution while Citizenship by Birth is defined BY the Constitution, specifically the 14th amendment.
"In Minor v. Happersett, Chief Justice Waite, when construing, in behalf of the court, the very provision of the Fourteenth Amendment now in question, said: 'The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that.'"
"But citizenship by birth is established by the mere fact of birth under the circumstances defined in the Constitution."The intent of the court was to define who had the right to vote. Not who had the ability to hold the highest office in the land.
Sorry, but this fails on examination of the Minor decision, in which the very reason for defining natural born citizen was to explain what the Constitution means in Art II, Sec I.
"This is apparent from the Constitution itself, for it provides [n6] that 'no person except a natural-born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President, ...'"
Then the court says: "Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents." But they contradict this guidance by footnoting: "We note the fact that the Court in Wong Kim Ark did not actually pronounce the plaintiff a “natural born Citizen” using the Constitution's Article II language ..."
Isn’t it bizarre that no prosecuting attorney in the nation is interested in conducting an investigation?
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Actually, no - its not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Kleindienst
“The initial arrests of the five Watergate burglars took place in the early hours of Saturday, June 17, 1972. Kleindienst was officially notified of the arrests later that morning. The same day, while at a private golf club in Bethesda, Maryland, Kleindienst was personally approached by Gordon Liddy, and informed that the break-in had originated within the Committee to Re-elect the President. Liddy declared further that he, Kleindienst, should now effect the release of the burglars in order to prevent their connection to the CRP from becoming widely known.”
If the AG of US clammed up for two years on this matter why would you think any lower level prosecutor would go after this.
The failure is with the media and their responsibility in a free society. They are failing. Katie, Brian, George S., O’Reily, Hannity and the other media figures are the failures here.
Because the Law of Nations, as you well know, does NOT refer to a book. And the Supreme Court HAS argued that the meaning of NBC is rooted in the common law term NBS, which it then pointed out DOES allow for TWO alien parents. And as you know, the dissent argued that the interpretation they adopted meant the child of a tourist could become President.
Those are facts your side refuses to recognize.
“If we say de Vattel is the correct interpretation, it is the correct interpretation.”
You don’t want to go there, since the people, in a national election, put in office a man they knew had a foreign born father. In that sense, the PEOPLE spoke, and you are just whining about the results.
Standard birfer guano. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. citizenship.
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Mostly true. However, you MUST use your US passport when entering the US. That is were a young, but adult, Barry Soetoro/Obama may have a problem.
From the web link you posted:
“Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States.”
Recently a dual citizen confirmed this very statement to me personally. When in the US you have to affirm you are a US citizen, even if you are a dual or multi-national. I do know some who have 3 or 4 valid passports.
I am not sure if there are specific legal consequences for declaring yourself a foreign national while in the US. But the web still makes it clear that ‘Intent’ can be shown in statements and conduct. If a person declares themselves a foreign national to qualify for college grant monies or gain financial aid only provided to foreign students is that ‘intent’?
It's been pointed out that a lot of people don't realize that Obama's father was a foreign national who did NOT immigrate to the United States. I've already shown where one of the most respected papers in the country referred to Obama as an immigrant, so a lot of these voters evidently assume Obama is from a family of immigrants who wanted to be U.S. citizens. Nothing could be further from the truth. These voters don't understand Obama has a multinational background and four continents' worth of citizenships.
devattel poses an excellent question for the masses to ponder: Why is it relevant as the most important qualification for the position?? Do these voters understand why the Constutition requires our president to be a natural born citizen?? Is the constitution irrelevant because a majority voters are ignorant??
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