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Man says he exhausted options before shooting dog(CO)
gazette.com ^ | 3 March, 2011 | JAKOB RODGERS and MATT STEINER

Posted on 03/04/2011 9:00:24 AM PST by marktwain

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To: Salamander

Um, I’m guessing that dogs are at least a serious hobby for you? Wow.

Any comments re: the wolfdogs mentioned up thread? Have an acquaintance who raises them, or rather one family of them through 3 generations. Actually have met - and played with - a few. To the point they know/knew me, know I don’t put up with jumping on me, doggy kisses, or mouth play, so don’t, but will play chase (me chasing) and tug. The tug can get pretty intense because they’re so strong.

No problems, 10 years in. But all WELL trained with good masters.

So, are they looking at time bombs here?


121 posted on 03/05/2011 1:27:37 AM PST by piytar (obama is going to stick our troops into a civil war?! FUBO! Can we get this scumbag impeached yet?)
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To: Salamander

Shotgun is much better.


122 posted on 03/05/2011 1:49:46 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Salamander

Shotgun is much better.


123 posted on 03/05/2011 1:49:57 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: piytar

Yeah, I’m into dogs a lot...due to no kids in the area to play with and disconnected parents, I was pretty much raised by dogs and horses.

[my human social skills suck but with critters, I’m perfectly comfy]...:)

My good friend in CA had a permit for full blood wolves.

Never had a bit of trouble with them but then she’s as into dogs as I am.

Her kids played with them to the point that her bitch kept trying to keep her son in the litter den in her back yard.

He’d climb up the dirt mound and the wolf would patiently go up, grab him by the shirt collar and drag him back into the den.

He’d scream “Mom! She’s trying to make me nurse!”

The neighbors kept seeing/hearing all this and called social services on her.

The SS people came and she just had them sit inside and watch it all through the back window.

They went away amazed and deeply impacted by the gentleness and care shown to the tot by the wolf.

*If* a person knows canine body language and habits *very* well, there ~likely~ will be no problems.

Few are willing to commit to all the study that entails, unfortunately.

Some people up the pike had wolves and wolf-hybrids in their back yard in a small fenced area.
They couldn’t really interact with them and basically just fed them and “showed them off”.

One elderly bitch had a huge tumor on her side but they couldn’t even take her to a vet to have it checked.
[I don’t want to know what eventually happened to her]

IMO, they were some of the most miserable critters I’ve ever seen.

Wrong environment.
Wrong understanding.
Wrong treatment.
Wrong reason for having them.
All just...wrong.

Also had a biker friend who got a hybrid because she thought it would be “cool”.
I told her not to.
[she was utterly incapable of dealing with a wolf, I -knew-]

About a month later, it ate the neighbor’s little dog.
She “got rid of it” and I didn’t ask “how”.
[didn’t want to know that, either]

Your friends sound like they truly know their animals.

For years, I ran a one-person Dobe rescue.

Never met one I couldn’t turn into a great family dog, regardless of what horrors they’d endured, previously.

[kept a lot of them for myself, too]...LOL


124 posted on 03/05/2011 1:58:30 AM PST by Salamander (I may be lonely but I'm never alone...and the nights may pass me by......but I never cry.)
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To: org.whodat

So you don’t mind hitting the dog who’s being attacked, too?


125 posted on 03/05/2011 1:59:34 AM PST by Salamander (I may be lonely but I'm never alone...and the nights may pass me by......but I never cry.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

LMBO, that’s funny right there.

Back on topic, everything I can see says this was a good shoot. Some of our close friends have have had bull mastiffs for 2-3 decades, and we’ve known 3 of them, and met a few more through them. They are generally very laid back, docile dogs. The dog in this story needed shooting.


126 posted on 03/05/2011 2:27:28 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Gator113

Actually I did nothing but choose to ignore you. Perhaps it was your personal attacks.


127 posted on 03/05/2011 3:39:27 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: wardaddy

I see you can insult me behind my back.


128 posted on 03/05/2011 3:44:53 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Salamander

Thats nice.

Keeping a dangerous animal doesn’t make you cool or a man. It makes you dangerous.

Threatening to kill someone who won’t put up with your dangerous animal is not rational. But what else should we expect from someone getting their kick off keeping a dangerous animal.


129 posted on 03/05/2011 3:49:04 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Salamander

“But it didn’t have one and now the dog is dead -because- it was owned by an irresponsible idiot.”

Yep, there are many irresponsible dog owners around here.


130 posted on 03/05/2011 3:50:40 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Salamander

Wasn’t me, be careful jumping to assumptions. Perhaps it was the brilliant logic of the posts in question.


131 posted on 03/05/2011 4:05:33 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

If you read the post with a rational mind, you will see that he did not threaten to kill any human.

I know wardaddy.

He’s not “getting his kicks” by owning a Mastiff.

He simply likes the breed, just like I prefer Dobermanns.

Methinks you are projecting a deep seated fear of “scary” dogs.

[and thank goodness owning a “dangerous animal” doesn’t make ~me~ a man...I’d hate to be demoted]....:-P


132 posted on 03/05/2011 4:35:27 AM PST by Salamander (I may be lonely but I'm never alone...and the nights may pass me by......but I never cry.)
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To: driftdiver

Riiiiight.

I believe you.

[wow..nearly bit through my tongue typing that]


133 posted on 03/05/2011 4:37:36 AM PST by Salamander (I may be lonely but I'm never alone...and the nights may pass me by......but I never cry.)
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To: driftdiver

By “here”, should I assume you mean FR?

You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried.


134 posted on 03/05/2011 4:39:12 AM PST by Salamander (I may be lonely but I'm never alone...and the nights may pass me by......but I never cry.)
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To: Salamander

He stated he would get retribution on anyone who killed his dog. The context was this case where the animal was out of control.

Breeds don’t matter except some require more expertise to properly manage.


135 posted on 03/05/2011 5:07:34 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Salamander

So now I’m a liar eh?

we’re done, take your petty personal attacks and jump in a tick infested briar patch.


136 posted on 03/05/2011 5:09:04 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Salamander
I was out at a dinner and the subject of dogs came up and I mentioned mine. A woman asked ....

“What was she bred to do?

And I was impressed, because that seemed to me to be THE question at getting at the heart of the character of a dog.

My Bull-mastiff is unsure (they seem naturally concerned and worried - makes for a better guard dog) if the people you pass by are neighbors and their dogs who you will greet with waves and wagging tail - or poachers who shall have their dogs destroyed and them knocked down and subdued.

She is READY for the second scenario. Her fur bristles and her muscles twitch.

If I were physically unable to subdue the dog I would be even more insistent that she obey every verbal command with instant obedience (she is the best dog for that I have ever seen) and would go everywhere with a muzzle.

My brother and sisterinlaw, who should have known better, thought I was CRAZY for buying her a muzzle. They didn't think this loving affectionate and obedient dog had a dark side - until they saw it. When I came to get her and brought with me the muzzle - they didn't think it so crazy anymore.

137 posted on 03/05/2011 5:22:43 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: driftdiver

Nobody else had any complaints about him so by process of elimination.....


138 posted on 03/05/2011 5:25:17 AM PST by Salamander (I may be lonely but I'm never alone...and the nights may pass me by......but I never cry.)
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To: driftdiver

You have reading comprehension problems, as well:


“probably legit shot but breed specific asshats can kiss my butt

u kill my dog though for any reason and i will probably get yours in time..i will always avenge my boy”


*Where*, ~precisely~, did he state that he was going to kill a human?

Take your time studying it.

[you’ll no doubt need it]

T’would seem that *I* am not the one with “truth issues”, here.

[I laughed when you called my flat-out logical assertions of contextual evidence “petty personal attacks”. Can’t take the heat, can you?]


139 posted on 03/05/2011 5:31:15 AM PST by Salamander (I may be lonely but I'm never alone...and the nights may pass me by......but I never cry.)
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To: allmendream

You are a wise and conscientious steward for your dog.


140 posted on 03/05/2011 5:33:55 AM PST by Salamander (I may be lonely but I'm never alone...and the nights may pass me by......but I never cry.)
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