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10 things car drivers should know about motorcycles
Hell for Leather Magazine ^ | April 7, 2011 | Hell for Leather Magazine

Posted on 04/07/2011 10:58:19 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

In 2009, 5,474 people were killed on American roads due to distracted driving. Now, April has become National Distracted Driving Awareness Month. The MSF has put together a list of 10 things cagers need to know about driving around motorcycles. I hope you’re not reading this on your iPhone from the driver’s seat.

1. There are many more cars and trucks than motorcycles on the road and some drivers don’t “recognize” motorcyclists. They ignore them, usually unintentionally. Look for motorcycles, especially when checking traffic at an intersection.



2. A motorcyclist may look farther away than he or she is in actuality. It may also be difficult to judge a motorcycle’s speed. When checking traffic to turn at an intersection or into (or out of) a driveway, estimate that a motorcycle is closer than it looks.



3. A motorcycle can be easily hidden in a car’s blind spots or masked by objects or backgrounds outside the car. Thoroughly check traffic, whether you’re changing lanes or turning at intersections.



4. A motorcycle may seem to be moving faster than it really is. Again, don’t immediately rely on your perceptions.



5. Motorcyclists sometimes slow down by downshifting or merely rolling off the throttle, thus not activating the brake light. Don’t tailgate motorcyclists. At intersections, anticipate that motorcyclists may slow down without any visual warning.



6. Turn signals on a motorcycle are not often automatically self-canceling. Some riders, (especially beginners) sometimes forget to turn them off. Try to determine whether a motorcycle’s turn signal is for real. And if you’re driving a car, remember to use your turn signals too. They’re a great communication tool for riders and drivers when used properly.



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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Outdoors; Travel
KEYWORDS: bikers; cars; drivers; idiots; motorcycles; safety
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1 posted on 04/07/2011 10:58:23 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I always give plenty of room for motorcyclists. Had a cousin-in-law killed on one by a teen who pulled out right in front of him. No room for mistakes. Just a thought.


2 posted on 04/07/2011 11:04:11 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yeah and some motorcyclist ride like they own the road they don’t


3 posted on 04/07/2011 11:07:22 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom!!! <sarc>)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Motorcycles? I don’t see no stinking motorcycles.”


4 posted on 04/07/2011 11:09:20 AM PDT by Adams (Fight on!)
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To: martin_fierro

ping


5 posted on 04/07/2011 11:10:45 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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BARRY HAZ TEH GHEY.

6 posted on 04/07/2011 11:13:16 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’ve never understood why people keep saying it’s hard to see motorcycles. They are easier to see than a tiny car.


7 posted on 04/07/2011 11:14:37 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

11. Motorcyclists enjoy being obnoxious by unnecessarily revving their engines

12. Motorcyclists don’t believe that traffic laws and lanes apply to them and often pass on the right especially when in heavy traffic

13. The medical community refers to motorcyclists as “organ donors” for a reason


8 posted on 04/07/2011 11:14:53 AM PDT by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It may also be difficult to judge a motorcycle’s speed.

True, particularly because it is quite common for a bike to be going much, much faster than the cars on the same stretch of road.

9 posted on 04/07/2011 11:16:20 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (TOTUS knows how to give a speech. Obama knows how to read.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Turn signals on a motorcycle are not often automatically self-canceling.

Unfortunately, too many motorcycle riders are, and they can cause a motorist great inconvenience when they apply for the Darwin Award.

10 posted on 04/07/2011 11:17:47 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: al baby

Yeah and some motorcyclist ride like they own the road they don’t

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I’ve always thought idiot riders have not yet had that “incident”. You know. The one where they come within a millisecond of losing it all. I think once you do, then you grow up pretty fast and start riding safely and defensively.

And if not - then you become another bad day for the paramedics who have to scrape you off the road.


11 posted on 04/07/2011 11:18:27 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A Birther: One who has questions or concerns over the birth of Barry Barack Hussein Soetero Obama)
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To: momtothree
“No room for mistakes.”

I prefer to have 2000 lbs of steel between me and the car that is hitting me. My neighbor, a father of three girls was killed a few summers ago when his Motorcycle was hit by a woman trying to beat a light. And a close friend at work on a motorcycle vacation, took a mountain road curve too wide and slid into a guard rail. She was killed instantly.

12 posted on 04/07/2011 11:20:57 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: momtothree
“No room for mistakes.”

I prefer to have 2000 lbs of steel between me and the car that is hitting me. My neighbor, a father of three girls was killed a few summers ago when his Motorcycle was hit by a woman trying to beat a light. And a close friend at work on a motorcycle vacation, took a mountain road curve too wide and slid into a guard rail. She was killed instantly.

13 posted on 04/07/2011 11:21:19 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: TSgt

touche. The rest of the world refers to the medical “community” as drug addicts, for good cause.


14 posted on 04/07/2011 11:23:10 AM PDT by airplaneguy
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“cagers”? Really? I’ve been a rider for 41 years - why antagonize car and truck drivers with this snarky term? It’s too much like homosexuals referring to straight women as “breeders”.

That said, the suggestions are excellent.

Colonel, USAFR


15 posted on 04/07/2011 11:23:09 AM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: airplaneguy; jagusafr

I don’t mean to be a hater and have often considered buying a Goldwing, even though I’m only 34, however my life experience with motorcycles and motorcyclists has not been positive.


16 posted on 04/07/2011 11:26:48 AM PDT by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

All you have to do when on a Motorcycle is remember that YOU are invisible. Cars DO NOT see you. AND remember Motorcycles PAY Road Use Taxes(unlike Obnoxious Pedal Bikers) so the DO own the road.


17 posted on 04/07/2011 11:27:53 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: NavyCanDo

It definitely is a risk! Personally, I plant my tushy in a Suburban 4x4. Safer not only for me but the precious cargo (the kids) that I transport all over. My cousin in law was aged 70. I guess he figured the kids were grown and gone but it has devastated his wife.


18 posted on 04/07/2011 11:29:47 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Saw my first motorcycle fatality up close when i was about 12. The pain and anguish in the face of the father that showed up at the scene of the 16 year old victim has haunted me to this day. The intersection of Constitution & Moon - Albuquerque - Summer 1967. It cured me from my want of a motorcycle and reminds me of their vulnerability on public roadways.


19 posted on 04/07/2011 11:29:59 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: TSgt

ALL motorcyclists?

Really?


20 posted on 04/07/2011 11:30:06 AM PDT by WayneS ("If mercy's in business I wish it for you; and more than just ashes when your dreams come true.")
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To: jagusafr

I especially like No. 11. Cell phoners and texters are a PITA to other car drivers, too.


21 posted on 04/07/2011 11:31:06 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Follow me on Twitter @mpetrie98)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We saw an “organ donor” talking on his cell phone as he was riding his motorcycle on a hilly and curvy road.


22 posted on 04/07/2011 11:49:04 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (TX and MI - When the going gets tough, the dims run and hide.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Also, here in California, motorcyclists are authorized to split lanes. Don’t know who came up with that dumb law but it’s dangerous as hell and tends to scare folks in cars, leading to accidents.


23 posted on 04/07/2011 11:50:59 AM PDT by An American in Turkiye
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To: US Navy Vet
unlike Obnoxious Pedal Bikers

It took until the 17th comment. Bike haters must all be out picking up more hay seed for pa, or sleeping under the porch.

24 posted on 04/07/2011 11:52:19 AM PDT by Minn
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To: An American in Turkiye
Also, here in California, motorcyclists are authorized to split lanes. Don?t know who came up with that dumb law but it?s dangerous as hell and tends to scare folks in cars, leading to accidents.

It sure startled me the first time I saw it. It'd be interesting to know how a law that seems so crazy came to be.

25 posted on 04/07/2011 11:55:22 AM PDT by Minn
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
On the freeway I treat motorcycles the same way good truck drivers treat cars - let them pass wherever possible and in general try to stay out of their way. What would be a minor fender-bender in a car could mean organ donation time for a motorcycle-driver's family.

Problem is so many motorcycles split lanes passing slow traffic on the freeway - very hard to see them coming since they're both small and going much faster than you are, and if you unintentionally drift a bit to your left or right just as they're coming up on you it's going to end very badly for the motorcycle driver.


26 posted on 04/07/2011 11:58:07 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Look for motorcycles

Especially since most motorcyclists don't believe the rules of the road and speed limits apply to them.

27 posted on 04/07/2011 12:00:49 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: TSgt
Motorcyclists enjoy being obnoxious by unnecessarily revving their engines

I believe the standard response to that is "loud pipes save lives".

28 posted on 04/07/2011 12:03:22 PM PDT by Minn
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To: Minn

I support bike lanes. They keep cyclists out of my way when I’m driving.

My only caveat: they don’t remove automobile lanes from the road to implement the bike lanes.


29 posted on 04/07/2011 12:03:28 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Follow me on Twitter @mpetrie98)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
My problem isn't that cagers can't see me. It is a problem when they stare at me trying to figure out "what in the heck is that", rather than watching the road. I have had cars pull up beside me on the interstate and have people stick out a camera and take my picture.


30 posted on 04/07/2011 12:04:22 PM PDT by SC DOC
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The suggestions are fine. The author is behaving like an obnoxious hectoring jackass. Bikers assume added risk and they do so voluntarily. People who go out of their way to tell others what they should be doing are generally up to no good.


31 posted on 04/07/2011 12:04:52 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I actually passed a guy a couple of months ago who was riding a crotch rocket and texting with his left hand. At 70mph. On the highway. Can you spell “deathwish”?

Colonel, USAFR


32 posted on 04/07/2011 12:05:02 PM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

People in cars who pass motorcycles think they do not have to cross over the centerline; they skim past a MC rider way too close.
We tour rural back roads on our MC’s—we are not out there for speed thrills. We yield to horseback riders, tractors, pedestrians, and pedal bikers. I wish people in cars were more considerate. Pass me, but please do so in the other lane.
Hang up and drive, and please don’t tailgate.


33 posted on 04/07/2011 12:09:49 PM PDT by two23 (Liberals Have Created a Culture of Lies)
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To: US Navy Vet
All you have to do when on a Motorcycle is remember that YOU are invisible.

Not quite.

Ya see that doesn't' help a bit when someone left turns directly into your direction of travel...There won't be time to blink.

34 posted on 04/07/2011 12:10:41 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Minn
"loud pipes save lives".

I'm not even talking about loud pipes. I'm talking about sitting outside an ice cream parlor enjoying an ice cream with my family and having a bunch of fat baby boomer assholes hop on their bikes and blast me and my family with unnecessary loudness so they can feel cool. If bikers want people to respect them, they should offer respect to others.
35 posted on 04/07/2011 12:12:15 PM PDT by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I prefer to assume other drives, including other motorcycles, are idiots, don’t see me, and cannot brake, accelerate or turn as fast as I can. So, I ride accordingly and use things to my advantage and ride very defensibly. I don’t brake faster than normal traffic, I don’t change lanes quickly, and I always give myself an out. Since I can accelerate and turn faster that adds to my options for getting out.


36 posted on 04/07/2011 12:14:34 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: An American in Turkiye; Minn
Don’t know who came up with that dumb law but it’s dangerous as hell and tends to scare folks in cars, leading to accidents.

I've only visited CA a few times. I also noticed that, and--as a rider myself--thought it extremely stupid to allow and do.

I have heard from CA friends that it was the CHP who pushed for this to allow them to split lanes and move up in traffic.

< shrug > I don't know. It's just what I've heard.

37 posted on 04/07/2011 12:14:52 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: US Navy Vet
All you have to do when on a Motorcycle
is remember that YOU are invisible.
Cars DO NOT see you.

True
Assume that you are invisible
Treat intersections like a kill zone
>5 years experience, >16,000 mi.

38 posted on 04/07/2011 12:22:08 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: The Sons of Liberty
I'd estimate that 75% of motorcycle accidents are caused by car or truck drivers....

people in cars can be oblvious to a motorcycle, thinking that somehow being in a car means everyone else shouldn't be there...

motorcyclists pay taxes and they buy insurance...they have just as much right as any car or truck...

the real problem?....TOO MANY CARS AND TRUCKS....

we'd solve our energy problem easily if more people drove motorcycles/mopeds or rode a bicyle for in town trips....

btw, I don't have a motorcycle....but my husband has his whole life....he's quick to condemn poor drivers whether they be in a car or on a cycle...

39 posted on 04/07/2011 12:24:42 PM PDT by cherry
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To: SC DOC

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40 posted on 04/07/2011 12:29:50 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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41 posted on 04/07/2011 12:38:26 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It may also be difficult to judge a motorcycle’s speed.

Around here, in the city, that is primarily because the motorcycle is actually going much faster than expected...often by a factor of 2X. Some sort of death wish.

42 posted on 04/07/2011 12:39:32 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Oh, well, any excuse to buy a new gun is good enough for me.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
#3 is the one that ticks me off about motorcyclists because they can adjust
their speed/positioning to they can be seen. Otherwise there is no way to know
there is someone there.
43 posted on 04/07/2011 12:45:51 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: An American in Turkiye

Having been stuck in the parking lot known as the California Interstate on a motorcycle trip out there; I’d feel safer splitting the lanes, albeit at slow and cautious speeds.

If you think oblivious, cell phone talking/texting dingbats are a danger at speed, you ought to see them when traffic is essentially at a stand still and they’re angry agitated and even more oblivious to those around them. All jockeying for a better position.

At least at speed, the biker has some recourse and manuvability. Not so when you’re creeping along at 5mph.


44 posted on 04/07/2011 12:50:23 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Minn; An American in Turkiye
Way back when I commuted the San Diego Fwy by bike, and before helmets were mandatory in CA, no one but police and Highway Patrol split lanes unless traffic had come to a stop.

Gradually, other bikers began to follow them or just follow suit.

I don't know if they made it legal just so the law could continue to do it or if some other factor came into play.

Today's riders, and their bikes, are a whole new mind set and I avoid them like a bad cough. But, even so, they're less obnoxious than a herd of spandex clad pedal pushers convinced that they get extra privileges because they're good for the environment.

45 posted on 04/07/2011 1:10:49 PM PDT by norton
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

One rule for riders: Assume other drivers don’t know about and are breaking the 10 rules in the article...


46 posted on 04/07/2011 1:15:14 PM PDT by piytar (Godwin's rule is null and void. If you don't know what I mean, you aren't paying attention...)
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To: US Navy Vet

The cost to register a motorcycle is less that the cost of a fishing license in New York State. Yes, you can call it a use tax, but it is negligible compared to the cost to register a passenger car or a pick up truck. I have seen the results of horrendous accidents where the cyclist was flagrantly speeding, yet the “cager” was ticketed. I’m a fairly tolerant guy except when it comes to motorcyclists and bicyclists. Cyclists are arrogant in their use of the highway. sd


47 posted on 04/07/2011 1:18:12 PM PDT by shotdog (I love my country. It's our government I'm afraid of.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

That’s why I don’t split lanes. Never have, never will...


48 posted on 04/07/2011 1:18:28 PM PDT by piytar (Godwin's rule is null and void. If you don't know what I mean, you aren't paying attention...)
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To: TSgt
11. Motorcyclists enjoy being obnoxious by unnecessarily revving their engines

Oh really? We're all obnoxious, huh? Nice. BTW, on occassion I DO rev the engine. Why? Because sometimes you can tell the soccer mom on her cell phone driving the SUV behind you or turning at the intersection across you path doesn't even see you. Can't count the number of times I've seen the startled wide-eyed shocked look when they realize they were about to drive right over me. (Actually, not -- I'm prepared to evade in that situation, but doing so would often require an illegal move. But we're all lawbreakers anyway, so maybe I should just do that from now on.)

Loud pipes can save lives. But since we're all obnoxious, I guess that's unnecessary, eh?

49 posted on 04/07/2011 1:23:37 PM PDT by piytar (Godwin's rule is null and void. If you don't know what I mean, you aren't paying attention...)
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To: jagusafr
I actually passed a guy a couple of months ago who was riding a crotch rocket and texting with his left hand. At 70mph. On the highway. Can you spell "deathwish"?

Indeed. Although I'd probably spell it as s-t-u-p-i-d, too. Dehydrated rock hard stupid, in fact. Wow.

50 posted on 04/07/2011 1:25:49 PM PDT by piytar (Godwin's rule is null and void. If you don't know what I mean, you aren't paying attention...)
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