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Okay birthers, I'm open to the speculation, educate me for a second to two...
04/13/2011 | TMMT

Posted on 04/13/2011 12:43:16 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

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1 posted on 04/13/2011 12:43:19 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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Video: A Question of Eligibility (Full Movie!) Very informative!

http://youtu.be/mUmVFTUyEOM

PETITION FOR PUBLIC RELEASE OF
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550


2 posted on 04/13/2011 12:45:30 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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Whatever information is there Obumer has spent million’s trying to protect and the MSM has done a full court press ennobling him. If it was a Republican they would string his testicles on a rack until he came clean.


3 posted on 04/13/2011 12:48:19 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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While I still have a hard time believing Osama was born in Kenya

I never had any beliefs that Obama was born anywhere else but in the United States. But, so far that has not been confirmed. So, nobody can say for sure.

Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House and he were a natural born citizen, since when do we just ignore verifying with documents? That's the biggest point. Try getting a drivers license without anything but your word.

Even if all were fine with the birth certificate, he still needs to show it. We do not go by an individual's word in this nation. This is not Kenya. Furthermore, you cannot be President if a parent was not a US Citizen at the time of birth. Not that any of Obama's parents were not US Citizens or anything (we can't know for sure - the long form has that information.) Unless it was doctored.

But we cannot just accept an individual's word. If we did that, today's anchor babies could be tomorrow's President, today's illegal alien could be tomorrow's Commander In Chief. This really has nothing to do with President Obama. It has to do with the US Constitution and the presidence that's being set.

To accept his or anybody's word and their word alone is to open up a can of worms for all future Presidents, and voters for that matter. Obama's failure to show the appropriate documents to prove his eligibility sets a precedence for all future Presidents. If President Obama does have documents to prove his eligibility then why should anybody else?

As Bill Clinton may have said "It's the presidence, stupid!"

4 posted on 04/13/2011 12:50:56 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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If Trump has nothing, produces nothing, ends up blowing all this media hype he's churned into a boil... that window comes and goes the media will eviscerate him...

Trump doesn't have to produce squat. That burden is on 0bama and no one else.
5 posted on 04/13/2011 12:51:43 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN 66-67)
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If it was a Republican they would string his testicles on a rack until he came clean.

If it was a Repub, they'd of never been elected.

The media would have created a 24/7/365 cable channel dedicated to nothing but destroying the guy or gal... and then spend the rest of eternity remind people of the fact we tried to run a foreign born, illegal with a shady, fraudulent past for president.

6 posted on 04/13/2011 12:52:37 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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Trump doesn't have to produce squat. That burden is on 0bama and no one else.

Exactly!

7 posted on 04/13/2011 12:53:53 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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Trump doesn't have to produce squat. That burden is on 0bama and no one else.

Well in your world maybe... but elections take place in the real world and Trump better have something or its over, the media will use it to discredit the entire party come election time and then constantly remind America of all those crazy conservative birthers...

8 posted on 04/13/2011 12:54:34 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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FLASHBACK: 2008 - Congressional Hearings Held To Determine Sen. John McCain’s Constitutionality For Presidency: No Controlling Authority To Constitutionally Verify Hussein Obama’s Alleged Hawaiian Natural Birth.


9 posted on 04/13/2011 12:56:19 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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I am warming to the idea he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, ...

I believe that is an established fact.

...became an Indonesian citizen...

As I understand it there is no documented proof of 0bama's Indonesian citizenship but foreign children can't be enrolled in Indonesian schools.

... and most likely obtained an Indonesian passport which allowed his travels to Pakistan and beyond.

He could have traveled to Pakistan on a U.S. passport.

10 posted on 04/13/2011 12:57:00 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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Sorry, FRiend. I don’t buy that.


11 posted on 04/13/2011 12:57:57 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN 66-67)
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The real world is the fact that John McCain was forced into Congressional hearings to prove his eligibility to be President because of having been born on a US Military base in Panama. He had to bring all the documents that Obama has so far refused to make public.


12 posted on 04/13/2011 1:00:23 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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He could have traveled to Pakistan on a U.S. passport.

Nobody using a US Passport would have been able to enter Pakistan during the time that Obama went there.

13 posted on 04/13/2011 1:02:23 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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I don’t know that Trump actually has anything. He’s just asking questions that should have been pursued long ago, but for whatever reason the current oval office occupant got a free pass on.

Calling someone a birther seems to me to say about them that they’re claiming something, when I think that it’s less than a single percent of them that are claiming anything, just also asking reasonable questions, as Trump is now. Some do propose theories, sure. But who really knows? The facts aren’t overwhelming, and some claims are still made even after they’ve been refuted, doing nobody any favors.

I don’t know if he was born in Hawaii. He might very well have been. Others here have pointed out to me that’s not even enough to be a natural born citizen since his father was a British subject by way of Kenya and his mother was under age. Who to believe? I’m learning about this as I go.

I think it’s reasonable to also ask about Indonesian citizenship, name change, foreign aid and registering as a foreign student to get it, and if there was Saudi financing of his time at Harvard to explain his humiliating bow to their king.

Trump’s a smart man. He’s not pretending to have any unique access to the truth as far as I can tell. He has greater resources than most though, so maybe he’ll be more able to get answers to these questions, which to me seem legitimate ones for citizens to ask of someone who wants to be their president.


14 posted on 04/13/2011 1:04:26 AM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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http://www.catholicbook.com/catholicbook/Obama%20summary.htm


15 posted on 04/13/2011 1:04:32 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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False. There were no travel restrictions to Pakistan then. There was a travel advisory but that does not prohibit travel. It’s BS that people keep repeating and has been debunked a thousand times here on FR.


16 posted on 04/13/2011 1:10:01 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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There were no Congressional hearings about McCain's eligibility. The Senate passed a declaration, that has no power of law, saying that he was eligible.

Citizen McCain

17 posted on 04/13/2011 1:12:12 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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For any republican who is afraid of Donald Trump and just wishes he’d go away. It’s simple, get Congress to do the job they should have done back in 2008. Tell them to do it now so that this eligibility issue is no longer on the table.

They did it when they questioned McCain’s eligibility back in 2008.

Tell Boehner to start Congressional hearings like they did against McCain.

It’s as simple as that.

PETITION FOR PUBLIC RELEASE OF
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550


18 posted on 04/13/2011 1:13:56 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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Don’t forget the mini series and spin-offs.


19 posted on 04/13/2011 1:14:58 AM PDT by MCF
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"congressional hearings were held to determine whether Sen. John McCain was constitutionally eligible to be president as a “natural born citizen,” no controlling legal authority ever sought to verify Obama’s claim to a Hawaiian birth."
20 posted on 04/13/2011 1:18:54 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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