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A bootlegger's plea
The Standard Examiner ^ | 4/26/2011 | Neal Humphrey

Posted on 04/26/2011 6:53:25 AM PDT by Utah Binger

Before I came to live in Utah I was mostly a law-abiding citizen.

Is say "mostly" because you have to obey a bajillion laws and statutes just to drive a car. There's plenty of opportunity to break the traffic code even in semi-innocent ignorance. So, like an average citizen I occasionally get caught violating a traffic law. I say "occasionally" because the last time I paid a fine for a traffic violation was a quarter-century ago.

So, up until 1999 I scrupulously tried to come to a full stop at stop signs, didn't run red lights, drove within the speed limit, paid the taxes various governments claimed I owed, resisted the temptation to rob banks, and committed no axe murders. I used to be pretty close to living as a model, law-abiding citizen -- but not in Utah.

Here's what happened.

My wife and I drove to the United States of America to visit our children and grandkids. Then we drove back to Utah. After we returned we described our trip to our friends, including a report about some of our shopping. There were gasps, "You know that's against the law in Utah, don't you?" No we didn't. We had unknowingly committed a Class B misdemeanor.

It seems that driving to the United States of America, filling the back of your SUV with several cases of wine, and then crossing back into Utah without looking up a Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control official to have your vino inspected and taxes paid is bootlegging.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Humor
KEYWORDS: liquor; utah; wine
And now we know why every border town in Nevada, Wyoming, Arizona and Colorado has booming liquor sales.
1 posted on 04/26/2011 6:53:27 AM PDT by Utah Binger
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To: rochelle; greyfoxx39; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...

Bootlegger ping!


2 posted on 04/26/2011 6:55:58 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the Inman FReepers Meet July 23 Pray Jim Rob Can Make It)
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To: Utah Binger
"Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed? We want them broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against . . . We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Rearden, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."

-- Floyd Ferris

3 posted on 04/26/2011 6:58:20 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Utah Binger
Ohio used to send liquor agents to check out liquor stores in Indiana and Kentucky (and probably other bordering states), look for Ohio plates and then follow the drivers back into Ohio to bust them for buying too much low tax booze.
4 posted on 04/26/2011 6:59:57 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You beat me to it.


5 posted on 04/26/2011 7:02:36 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Utah Binger

Just another of Utah’s oddities. It is against the law to be and adult in Utah. This is a State where Moral Conservatism rules - but you’d better be part of the “moral” majority or else your freedoms are seriously impeded against.


6 posted on 04/26/2011 7:06:16 AM PDT by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: KarlInOhio

I can tell you if you ever go to the Buckskin Tavern in Fredonia Arizona do not drive back over the border into Utah as the Kanab goons have already made note of you and are laying in wait.

Speaking from experience of course.

7 posted on 04/26/2011 7:09:00 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the Inman FReepers Meet July 23 Pray Jim Rob Can Make It)
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To: Utah Binger
And now we know why every border town in Nevada, Wyoming, Arizona and Colorado has booming liquor sales.

Actually, I'd be willing to bet, that if you looked at most states, they would almost all have something limiting the amount you can bring into the state of alcohol, tobacco, and gasoline/diesel without reporting and paying taxes on it.

8 posted on 04/26/2011 7:09:35 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmit in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: KarlInOhio

Every time we fly to Chicago we bring an empty suitcase or two and pick up hard stuff at Costco. what’s $46 in Seattle is $27 there. And we get the family sized bottle of Kirkland vodka (made by Grey Goose) for $27. The same amount of Grey Goose is over $60 in Seattle.

I get all my single malt there too. Too bad we don’t fly to California a lot. :)


9 posted on 04/26/2011 7:12:55 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: KarlInOhio

As I recall, Massachusetts tried this with New Hampshire, and NH busted their agents and tossed them in jail. The NH liquor stores are state-owned.


10 posted on 04/26/2011 7:17:18 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: colorcountry

Actually I just took a room in Fredonia in order to change my address and drivers license to Arizona. In that way we can order fine wines on UPS for our events without having to drive all the way to Page or Mesquite.

I can also stop getting the silly Utah letter from the DMV about whether type II Diabetes prevents me from driving a car.
Utah makes folks have to lie about a lot of things.


11 posted on 04/26/2011 7:23:50 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the Inman FReepers Meet July 23 Pray Jim Rob Can Make It)
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To: KarlInOhio

Tennessee sends cigarette agents into Kentucky to bust people buying low tax cigs.


12 posted on 04/26/2011 7:51:51 AM PDT by jdub (A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
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To: RobRoy
Every time we fly to Chicago…Too bad we don’t fly to California a lot. :)

That is a confusing post.

13 posted on 04/26/2011 7:55:16 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: Utah Binger

Tiny little Panguitch is where I discovered O’Douls....not bad at all for ‘near beer’.


14 posted on 04/26/2011 8:18:07 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: Utah Binger

During the upcoming July 4 periods, California “authorities” monitor the Nevada fireworks stands near the state line and then have drivers pulled over once back in CA.


15 posted on 04/26/2011 8:22:11 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: Utah Binger

We now have a Republican legislature in the Senate and House and a Republican Governor in Pennsylvania. First time this has happened in a while. One of the things they want to do is privatize all of our State Liquor Stores. I say amen to that!! The Governor is making it one of his priorities.


16 posted on 04/26/2011 8:32:53 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Utah Binger
I take a much broader view!

As we have the head of the Treasury who cannot figure out how to do his taxes and a lower than whale dung Rep who was head of the department writing the tax code and couldn't follow it. And we all seem to need lawyers to wade through various laws. And we need to have appeals to many decisions, it seems to me that IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS THE MOST VALID OF EXCUSES

Good grief folks the frauds sitting on the bench of the USSC cannot even agree to what our laws mean, hence all the 5-4 decisions. Why on earth should we be expected to know what the heck is going on with our legal system? We do not have a justice system just a legal system.

Just how is any average citizen supposed to know what is and is not legal beyond the 10 Commandments? Hmmmm, maybe that is why the vile enemy within this country is trying to remove them from view.

17 posted on 04/26/2011 8:38:00 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: ErnBatavia

Wow! Tiny little Panguitch is my hometown!


18 posted on 04/26/2011 8:38:50 AM PDT by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: Utah Binger

My very much beloved Grandfather Crouch would drive from Boones Creek (Johnson City area) to Gate City, Virginia once a month to buy his bourbon and my grandmother’s scotch. Every time I got to ride along as a kid he would warn me that if the police stopped us leaving Virginai or entering Tennessee to say nothing about what was in the trunk! The drive was only about forty miles, one way, but the county in Tennessee where he lived was a dry county then. Only beer was sold, no liquor ... of course anything you wanted, in pint bottles, was available through Hack Smithdeals taxi company, and Roy Faircloth’s store fronts. Real Bootleggin’ was a big money maker in those days (fifties and early sixties). Roy and Hack had themselves an old fashioned shootout at the Dutchmaid drive-in in Johnson City one evenin’, to settle whose enterprise was going to take charge don’tchaknow. Strip bars were coming to Johnson City!


19 posted on 04/26/2011 8:47:54 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Utah Binger

Here’s to all you self-sufficient American bootleggers!

http://homedistiller.org/photos-sold.htm

Since the government is willing to sacrifice our food to make ethanol, they should be all in favor of people making their own, home ethanol.


20 posted on 04/26/2011 9:40:32 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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21 posted on 04/26/2011 9:48:20 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Pontiac

>>That is a confusing post.<<

Sorry, what I meant was this. In Seattle a family sized bottle of Cuervo Tequila is around $47. In Costco in Chicago it is around $27. In Costco in California it is $20.


22 posted on 04/26/2011 10:38:33 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Wow! Thanks I’m gonna get me a stil. Do we use corn or potatoes?


23 posted on 04/26/2011 11:13:14 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the Inman FReepers Meet July 23 Pray Jim Rob Can Make It)
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To: Utah Binger

Use taters ... corn will suck the federales in to make sure you’re not making your own fuel. On a side note: one of the best vodkas I’ve ever tasted was a home brew and distilled in a ‘glass tower’. I was made from Irish potatoes and had the most delightful potato hint to it that I drank it with just ice.


24 posted on 04/26/2011 11:18:21 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Now there is a reason to come to the picnic!


25 posted on 04/26/2011 11:22:44 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the Inman FReepers Meet July 23 Pray Jim Rob Can Make It)
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To: Utah Binger

I had the same feeling three months ago when I had a $650 auto repair bill and I broke the law by not giving my mechanic a 1099. I’m an outlaw, baby.


26 posted on 04/26/2011 1:08:44 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Rage all you want, looters & moochers, but the gods of the copybook headings are your masters now.)
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To: denydenydeny

I’m glad that thing died. We are art dealers. Cash was about to be king in every transaction.

I am certain though that the bastards will think of something else to screw us with sooner or later.


27 posted on 04/26/2011 1:15:45 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the Inman FReepers Meet July 23 Pray Jim Rob Can Make It)
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To: Utah Binger

*Sigh*

What fun is bootlegging without the car chase?


28 posted on 04/26/2011 1:22:32 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1
Well alright then!
29 posted on 04/26/2011 1:35:12 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the Inman FReepers Meet July 23 Pray Jim Rob Can Make It)
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To: roamer_1
One More
30 posted on 04/26/2011 1:37:25 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the Inman FReepers Meet July 23 Pray Jim Rob Can Make It)
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To: Utah Binger
vino inspected and taxes paid is bootlegging.

Welcome to the world of the smokers.......LOL!

31 posted on 04/26/2011 1:50:41 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (It's a beautiful day and I'm glad I can see it in color.......)
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To: colorcountry

hOW IS THAT PRONOUNCED?

i SAY PAN-GOO-ITCH


32 posted on 04/26/2011 2:48:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN
Use taters ... corn will suck the federales in to make sure you’re not making your own fuel.

I'm next door to a 60 acre cornfield, and a 40 acre soybean field.

They switch crops each year... ;^)

33 posted on 04/26/2011 2:52:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

pang’guitch - like penguin only with and itch.


34 posted on 04/26/2011 2:56:29 PM PDT by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: Utah Binger

Nothing good is ever simple. Running a still is like cooking. The more you do it the better you can get, and it’s not just for liquid comestibles, but for fuel, extracts and essential oils.

Going back to the founding of the Republic, whiskey was the extra crop, and a lot easier to transport than a wagon full of grain. As such it was good as currency.


35 posted on 04/26/2011 3:14:30 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Utah Binger
Well alright then! // One More

Thanks! I feel better already! :D

36 posted on 04/26/2011 5:20:02 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Elsie
i SAY PAN-GOO-ITCH

Except on the religion forum, where words like that aren't allowed.

37 posted on 04/26/2011 9:27:25 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Be the kind of man that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, he's UP !!)
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To: ErnBatavia
Tiny little Panguitch is where I discovered O’Douls....not bad at all for ‘near beer’.

I agree although my favorite near beer is Labatt Blue (NA) which unfortunately I can't find very often in the U.S. In the summer when we go to the Pacific NW, we spend a day or so in British Columbia and I buy 5-6 cases of Labatt Blue (NA). When we stop at the U.S. border and the crossing guards ask if we have any alcohol, I tell them I have a bunch of cases of Labatt Blue (NA) in the canopy. It always elicits an odd look and then they wave me through.

38 posted on 04/27/2011 7:51:27 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Governor Romney, why would any conservative vote for the author of the beta version of ObamaCare?)
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