Skip to comments.A weird (minor??) mis-statement of fact in Obama's official biography.
Posted on 05/12/2011 10:27:35 AM PDT by howardl
Why does BHO's official biography state: "His mother, Ann Dunham, was born and raised in small-town Kansas. After her family moved to the Hawaiian Islands, she met Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan scholarship student enrolled at the University of Hawaii. The two married in 1959, and on August 4, 1961 ...."
Wikipedia says that Stanley Ann graduated from highschool in Washington state in 1960, and moved to Hawaii and started college that fall, where she met BHO senior. "Dunham and Obama Sr. were married on the Hawaiian island of Maui on February 2, 1961, despite parental opposition from both families. Dunham was three months pregnant at the time of her marriage."
You expect honesty in Obama’s official biography when he lies constantly about nearly everything else?
Maybe they're trying for consistency.
Because the “story” has evolved and they can’t keep it straight.
First of all, you can’t trust wikipedia. Anybody can edit and it is loaded with mistakes.
That being said, it is probably closer to the truth but nothing about Barry Soetero is truthful or correct. The facts change to suit the situation and the 2012 election campaign has started already.
Maybe wikipedia is mistaken?
You’ll enjoy this “ping”.
"A weird (minor??) mis-statement of fact in Obama's official biography."
My current working hypothesis is that SAD was pregnant when she met BHO Sr, and, in fact, her pregnancy (known only to her) might have been her motivation for starting the relationship.
Is there a BHO-SAD timeline that could support or refute this?
When first we practise to deceive!
Sir Walter Scott
That said, Wikipedia is hardly an authoritative source.
You’re right, inconsequential. Maybe someone edited the wikipedia?
You know, the White House should have interns just to make sure that the WIKI pages are updated to the ‘timelines of the week’
They should also have interns that know how to post straight documents on their websites instead of the mocked-up docs they are posting now.....there’s so much usurping going on that it’s difficult to keep every version of crooked - straight...
That quote comes to mind often when discussing Bam.
It is not inconsequential at all. 0dumbo has told so many lies about his background among other lies that it reveals his lck of character.
Someone PLEASE archive that. 0dumbo’s minions will correct it after they see it on here
Parental opposition...I can only imagine, in the late 1950's, interracial dating, then getting pregnant out of wedlock with a mixed race baby. That must have gone over like a ton of bricks Heck, they're are a lot of areas of the country today where it would still raise a few eyebrows.
wikipedia could be mistaken
except commie annie’s high school graduation date is verifiable as is the date the commie dunhams got to Hi
plus consider, if commie annie had married marxist 0dumbo she must have met him and married him in days and would have been only 17
0dumbo has told so many lies he will never get it straight
yes THAT is the point
the link Howard provided is the official Gov biography stating the 0dumbos wed in 1959
Except commie annie didn’t graduate from high school in Washington until 1960
someone linked th wiki page that showed the commie dunhams didn’t get to Hi until later 1960
The Wikepedia time line is totally internally consistent:
Born Nov. '42, Graduate HS spring '60 (age 17, almost 18), start college fall '60, meet BHO, Sr. fall '60, pregnant, Nov '60, marriage Feb '61 (Parents object, but hey she's 18, so what can you do?), Jr. born august '61.
The alternative is impossible to make sense of: Born in '42, marries BHO, Sr. at age 16(?) (where, in Hawaii? what's she doing there? when did they meet?) , then back to Seattle to finish HS, then back to (??) Hawaii, then pregnant in nov 60 and junior in aug 61.
“The two married in 1959” when Dunham was 15? WTF?
There’s another error. Stanley Ann Dunham wasn’t raised in Kansas. Her family lived in Kansas, Texas, California, New York State and Washington State during her childhood. Those are the places we have good evidence for. There might have been others.
At least one source says they lived in Ontario, Canada for a while, another says British Columbia, Canada. Doubtful. A third source says they lived in England for two years while Stanley Armour Dunham was in the USAAF. He did but his wife and kid not so likely.
By comparison the stupid marriage date, not so significant. Anyway Stanley Ann got her own date of marriage to Lolo wrong, at least once.
. . . . Check it out:
0bama's MySpace page showed his age as 52 in 2009 making his birth year 1957 instead of 1961. - As far as I know this anomaly disappeared down the memory hole as time went by.
. . . . See Screen Capture/ graphic at # 20.
Makes sense. Since it appears that BHO Sr. touched everything but the 3rd. rail, it wouldn’t be too tough to lure him to bed. She probably had to get Frank Marshall Davis off the hook.
Obama is the Master of Disinformation.
It serves his purpose to lie, distort the truth, and misstate basic facts.
It keeps us busy running after the truth while he contines to screw over the country.
Oh, yeah, ignore the crazies who say they lived in Beirut, Lebanon, at one time.
There is a rumor Montreal, Quebec is a possibility.
I like to go with solid evidence.
Wikipedia is supported by Stanley Ann and her attorney who stated in SA’s divorce pleadings v Sr. that they were married on 2-2-61. That may be the best evidence.
The official gov document may include an ordinary mistake. If the date was submitted intentionally, however, the question is what factual pattern might be established with a 1959 marriage?
Does it fit an older age? Or, was it just another example of a spiteful, immature response?
Billy Ayers just made up what he thought would look ‘acceptable’. The lies never cease with this kanyan bassturd klown.
GOOD EYE, howardl.
His whole damn life is a lie.
He’s the anti-christ.
Seems like it hasn’t been looked at very closely. Probably isn’t that important to some people.
Which would fit right in with BO Sr. leaving her... if he had been snookered into the relationship to be a substitute “babby-daddy”.... this would forment a wedge.
This also opens up a LOT of questions about “who is BO’s Daddy (genetically as well as philosophically/politically).
Interesting since Hawaii did not become a state until 1959.
“The Early Years
“Obamas parents came from vastly different
backgrounds. His mother, Ann Dunham, was
born and raised in small-town Kansas. After her
family moved to the Hawaiian Islands, she met
Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan scholarship student
enrolled at the University of Hawaii. The
two married in 1959, and on August 4, 1961,
Barack Obama Jr. was born in Honolulu. Two
years later the senior Obama left his new family,
first for graduate study at Harvard and then for
a job as a government economist back in Kenya.
The young Obama met his father again only
once, at age 10.
“When Obama was six, his mother remarried,
this time to an Indonesian oil executive.
The family moved to Indonesia, and
Obama spent four years attending school in the
capital city of Jakarta. He eventually returned to
Hawaii and went to high school there while living
with his maternal grandparents.”
1. Of course, Stanley Ann was not “raised in small town Kansas,” like Dorothy, but completed HS in Mercer Island WA.
2. The Obama marriage, per her HI divorce filing, was Feb 2, 1961, not in 1959 (her lawyer filed that assertion subject to bar sanctions for failing to confirm, and a missing page 11 might be the marriage license, still protected by HI privacy law for 75 years, IIRC).
3. Of course Senior never lived with the family (per U of Wash transcripts, Polk and INS docs) so he couldn't have left after two years. There was no family.
4. The Soetoro marriage was in 1965 when Barry was 4, not 1967 when Barry was 6,and potentially subject to expatriation under Indonesian law, IIRC...
I don’t know, but it’s definitely interesting.
The only marriage certificate you will ever see will be counterfeit and created after the fact.
Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein 0bama, Senior were never married.
there was something about a baby born in January of 1961.
and even if one existed from the U.S., it wouldn’t be a legal marriage in this country.
Why wouldn’t the marriage be legal?
“The best evidence of a marriage would be a marriage license, or better yet, a state-issued marriage certificate.”
That is true, of course.
But if, as you agree, the divorce pleadings contain “the ONLY evidence of a marriage”, then that filing is the best (and certainly here the most persuasive) evidence, isn’t it?
IMO, what is of importance, other than the two assertions the parties were married, is to determine the motivation of the actors behind the two different dates. If either of the dates is accurate, the other deserves examination.
Probably because of BHO Sr.'s polygamy problem.
You are, of course, right but the divorce papers do provide prima facie evidence of a marriage.
Also I’ve been through a divorce and know other people who have and in every single case it was mandatory to produce a marriage certficate, etc, to start the ball rolling.
Maybe Hawaii is different.
Obama Senior was already married.
You didn’t know that bigamy is against the law in all 50 states of this country?
BHO, Sr, told his university he had divorced Kezia in 1959, before he left Kenya. In 1964/5 he married Ruth Nidesand in Kenya. The marriage was statutory, ie monogamy.
Bigamy has been a crime in Kenya since 1902.
He wasn’t arrested for bigamy and Ruth didn’t cite bigamy as grounds when she divorced him. She cited cruelty.
His family say he divorced Kezia in 1959.
Looks like he might have been telling the truth, for once.
Anyway the INS couldn’t prove bigamy either, and they tried. The British wouldn’t confirm he’d ever been married at all.
If the British said he wasn’t married US law had to presume he wasn’t. So, the marriage was legal.
The big question would have been whether his marriage to Stanley Ann Dunham was bogus. IMHO it was. If the British had asked the INS for details and decided it was they’d have revoked his passport and he’d have been deported ASAP. The INS probably wanted to do just that.
Please read my answer to Menehune56.
All of that is in Obama, Sr’s, INS file, and various articles in the British papers, if you read between the lines.
Take a look at the Kenyan court records for the divorce papers. Or, take a look at the “Daily Mail” and “Daily Telegraph” archives.
He certainly didn’t get arrested for bigamy.
That isn’t nonsense.
As for when Ruth knew about Kezia, I couldn’t tell you, for sure, because she apparently won’t talk about him. Maybe her son, Mark’s, book will say something. She certainly knew about Stanley Ann and found out about Kezia. As to whether she saw Kezia as a wife, or a girlfriend/mistress, I don’t know. She knew about Jael too. The other women in the USA, who knows?
Since she remarried while he was alive and since bigamy is a crime in Kenya I’d say we can presume a divorce there.
You do know Ruth is Jewish, yeah?