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A weird (minor??) mis-statement of fact in Obama's official biography.
US Dept. of State and US Archives ^ | 5/12/11 | self

Posted on 05/12/2011 10:27:35 AM PDT by howardl

Why does BHO's official biography state: "His mother, Ann Dunham, was born and raised in small-town Kansas. After her family moved to the Hawaiian Islands, she met Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan scholarship student enrolled at the University of Hawaii. The two married in 1959, and on August 4, 1961 ...."

Wikipedia says that Stanley Ann graduated from highschool in Washington state in 1960, and moved to Hawaii and started college that fall, where she met BHO senior. "Dunham and Obama Sr. were married on the Hawaiian island of Maui on February 2, 1961, despite parental opposition from both families. Dunham was three months pregnant at the time of her marriage."


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This seems totally inconsequential, but why not get it right in the official biography?
1 posted on 05/12/2011 10:27:39 AM PDT by howardl
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To: howardl
Oh, come on, Howard!

You expect honesty in Obama’s official biography when he lies constantly about nearly everything else?

Maybe they're trying for consistency.

2 posted on 05/12/2011 10:32:24 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NOT FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: howardl; STARWISE; Las Vegas Ron

Because the “story” has evolved and they can’t keep it straight.


3 posted on 05/12/2011 10:33:04 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: howardl

First of all, you can’t trust wikipedia. Anybody can edit and it is loaded with mistakes.

That being said, it is probably closer to the truth but nothing about Barry Soetero is truthful or correct. The facts change to suit the situation and the 2012 election campaign has started already.


4 posted on 05/12/2011 10:33:57 AM PDT by kevinm13 (Tim Geithner is a tax cheat. Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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To: howardl

Maybe wikipedia is mistaken?


5 posted on 05/12/2011 10:34:05 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Stay focused: Debt, Deficits & Immigration.)
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To: onyx

You’ll enjoy this “ping”.


6 posted on 05/12/2011 10:34:31 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: howardl; LucyT; faucetman; warsaw44; ColdOne; wintertime; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; ..
Ping.

"A weird (minor??) mis-statement of fact in Obama's official biography."

7 posted on 05/12/2011 10:36:50 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: howardl; butterdezillion; Brown Deer

My current working hypothesis is that SAD was pregnant when she met BHO Sr, and, in fact, her pregnancy (known only to her) might have been her motivation for starting the relationship.

Is there a BHO-SAD timeline that could support or refute this?


8 posted on 05/12/2011 10:38:49 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Oh what a tangled web we weave,

When first we practise to deceive!

Sir Walter Scott

9 posted on 05/12/2011 10:39:21 AM PDT by 386wt (Don't buy anymore government.)
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To: howardl
and officially document the bastardy? surely you jest.

That said, Wikipedia is hardly an authoritative source.

10 posted on 05/12/2011 10:40:11 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (I asked the bartender for a bin Ladin, she said 'what's that? I said 'two shots then a splash.')
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To: howardl

You’re right, inconsequential. Maybe someone edited the wikipedia?


11 posted on 05/12/2011 10:42:36 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: howardl

You know, the White House should have interns just to make sure that the WIKI pages are updated to the ‘timelines of the week’

They should also have interns that know how to post straight documents on their websites instead of the mocked-up docs they are posting now.....there’s so much usurping going on that it’s difficult to keep every version of crooked - straight...


12 posted on 05/12/2011 10:42:46 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: 386wt

That quote comes to mind often when discussing Bam.


13 posted on 05/12/2011 10:43:26 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: howardl

It is not inconsequential at all. 0dumbo has told so many lies about his background among other lies that it reveals his lck of character.

Someone PLEASE archive that. 0dumbo’s minions will correct it after they see it on here


14 posted on 05/12/2011 10:47:21 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: howardl
"Dunham and Obama Sr. were married on the Hawaiian island of Maui on February 2, 1961, despite parental opposition from both families. Dunham was three months pregnant at the time of her marriage."

Parental opposition...I can only imagine, in the late 1950's, interracial dating, then getting pregnant out of wedlock with a mixed race baby. That must have gone over like a ton of bricks Heck, they're are a lot of areas of the country today where it would still raise a few eyebrows.

15 posted on 05/12/2011 10:52:44 AM PDT by apillar
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To: newzjunkey

wikipedia could be mistaken
except commie annie’s high school graduation date is verifiable as is the date the commie dunhams got to Hi
plus consider, if commie annie had married marxist 0dumbo she must have met him and married him in days and would have been only 17

0dumbo has told so many lies he will never get it straight


16 posted on 05/12/2011 10:53:08 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: kevinm13; NonValueAdded; stuartcr; libertarian27; howardl
I'm not sure where you're linking this to Wiki. The website address Howardl linked to is http://www.america.gov/publications/books/obama.html. At the bottom of the page it states, "This site delivers information about current U.S. foreign policy and about American life and culture. It is produced by the U.S. Department of State's Bureau of International Information Programs. Links to other Internet sites should not be construed as an endorsement of the views contained therein. "
17 posted on 05/12/2011 10:54:27 AM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: TennesseeGirl

yes THAT is the point

the link Howard provided is the official Gov biography stating the 0dumbos wed in 1959
Except commie annie didn’t graduate from high school in Washington until 1960
someone linked th wiki page that showed the commie dunhams didn’t get to Hi until later 1960


18 posted on 05/12/2011 10:59:12 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: stuartcr
OK, Wikipedia's not exactly the Encyclopedia Brittanica. But in this case Wikipedia is almost certainly correct, and the official biography almost certainly wrong.

The Wikepedia time line is totally internally consistent:

Born Nov. '42, Graduate HS spring '60 (age 17, almost 18), start college fall '60, meet BHO, Sr. fall '60, pregnant, Nov '60, marriage Feb '61 (Parents object, but hey she's 18, so what can you do?), Jr. born august '61.

The alternative is impossible to make sense of: Born in '42, marries BHO, Sr. at age 16(?) (where, in Hawaii? what's she doing there? when did they meet?) , then back to Seattle to finish HS, then back to (??) Hawaii, then pregnant in nov 60 and junior in aug 61.

19 posted on 05/12/2011 10:59:33 AM PDT by howardl
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To: howardl
Obama's MySpace page showed his age as 52 in 2009 making his birth year 1957 instead of 1961. As far as I know this anomaly disappeared down the memory hole as time went by.


20 posted on 05/12/2011 11:01:10 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: howardl

“The two married in 1959” when Dunham was 15? WTF?


21 posted on 05/12/2011 11:03:56 AM PDT by MeganC (NO WAR FOR OIL! ........except when a Democrat's in charge.)
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To: howardl

There’s another error. Stanley Ann Dunham wasn’t raised in Kansas. Her family lived in Kansas, Texas, California, New York State and Washington State during her childhood. Those are the places we have good evidence for. There might have been others.

At least one source says they lived in Ontario, Canada for a while, another says British Columbia, Canada. Doubtful. A third source says they lived in England for two years while Stanley Armour Dunham was in the USAAF. He did but his wife and kid not so likely.

By comparison the stupid marriage date, not so significant. Anyway Stanley Ann got her own date of marriage to Lolo wrong, at least once.


22 posted on 05/12/2011 11:15:17 AM PDT by Will Escott
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To: Menehune56; Nepeta; Plummz; Bikkuri; GregNH; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ColdOne; wintertime; ...
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. . . . Check it out:

0bama's MySpace page showed his age as 52 in 2009 making his birth year 1957 instead of 1961. - As far as I know this anomaly disappeared down the memory hole as time went by.

. . . . See Screen Capture/ graphic at # 20.

23 posted on 05/12/2011 11:16:35 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: Jim Noble

Makes sense. Since it appears that BHO Sr. touched everything but the 3rd. rail, it wouldn’t be too tough to lure him to bed. She probably had to get Frank Marshall Davis off the hook.


24 posted on 05/12/2011 11:20:37 AM PDT by surrey
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To: LucyT

Obama is the Master of Disinformation.

It serves his purpose to lie, distort the truth, and misstate basic facts.

It keeps us busy running after the truth while he contines to screw over the country.


25 posted on 05/12/2011 11:22:13 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I'm a Birther - And a Deather)
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To: howardl

Oh, yeah, ignore the crazies who say they lived in Beirut, Lebanon, at one time.

There is a rumor Montreal, Quebec is a possibility.

I like to go with solid evidence.


26 posted on 05/12/2011 11:32:48 AM PDT by Will Escott
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27 posted on 05/12/2011 11:36:18 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: howardl

Wikipedia is supported by Stanley Ann and her attorney who stated in SA’s divorce pleadings v Sr. that they were married on 2-2-61. That may be the best evidence.

The official gov document may include an ordinary mistake. If the date was submitted intentionally, however, the question is what factual pattern might be established with a 1959 marriage?

Does it fit an older age? Or, was it just another example of a spiteful, immature response?


28 posted on 05/12/2011 11:40:48 AM PDT by frog in a pot (There is a reason U.S. birth certificates designate the birthplace of the parents.)
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To: rxsid

Billy Ayers just made up what he thought would look ‘acceptable’. The lies never cease with this kanyan bassturd klown.


29 posted on 05/12/2011 11:45:17 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; howardl; LucyT; STARWISE

GOOD EYE, howardl.

His whole damn life is a lie.

He’s the anti-christ.


30 posted on 05/12/2011 11:45:45 AM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: howardl

Seems like it hasn’t been looked at very closely. Probably isn’t that important to some people.


31 posted on 05/12/2011 11:48:01 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: Jim Noble

Which would fit right in with BO Sr. leaving her... if he had been snookered into the relationship to be a substitute “babby-daddy”.... this would forment a wedge.

This also opens up a LOT of questions about “who is BO’s Daddy (genetically as well as philosophically/politically).


32 posted on 05/12/2011 11:56:48 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: Menehune56

Interesting since Hawaii did not become a state until 1959.


33 posted on 05/12/2011 12:04:58 PM PDT by Hothouse Flower
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To: LucyT
Lies, lies, and more lies...on a taxpayer funded website ow promoting campaign propaganda!

“The Early Years

“Obama’s parents came from vastly different
backgrounds. His mother, Ann Dunham, was
born and raised in small-town Kansas. After her
family moved to the Hawaiian Islands, she met
Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan scholarship student
enrolled at the University of Hawaii. The
two married in 1959, and on August 4, 1961,
Barack Obama Jr. was born in Honolulu. Two
years later the senior Obama left his new family,
first for graduate study at Harvard and then for
a job as a government economist back in Kenya.
The young Obama met his father again only
once, at age 10.

“When Obama was six, his mother remarried,
this time to an Indonesian oil executive.
The family moved to Indonesia, and
Obama spent four years attending school in the
capital city of Jakarta. He eventually returned to
Hawaii and went to high school there while living
with his maternal grandparents.”

Ahem!

1. Of course, Stanley Ann was not “raised in small town Kansas,” like Dorothy, but completed HS in Mercer Island WA.

2. The Obama marriage, per her HI divorce filing, was Feb 2, 1961, not in 1959 (her lawyer filed that assertion subject to bar sanctions for failing to confirm, and a missing page 11 might be the marriage license, still protected by HI privacy law for 75 years, IIRC).

3. Of course Senior never lived with the family (per U of Wash transcripts, Polk and INS docs) so he couldn't have left after two years. There was no family.

4. The Soetoro marriage was in 1965 when Barry was 4, not 1967 when Barry was 6,and potentially subject to expatriation under Indonesian law, IIRC...

34 posted on 05/12/2011 12:06:49 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: howardl

I don’t know, but it’s definitely interesting.


35 posted on 05/12/2011 12:12:01 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: frog in a pot
Stanley Ann and her attorney contend in the divorce pleadings that the two were married on 2-2-61. That is the ONLY evidence of a marriage.

The best evidence of a marriage would be a marriage license, or better yet, a state-issued marriage certificate.

Now, this should be easy to ascertain as marriages are public, but no marriage license or marriage certificate exists in the public domain.

36 posted on 05/12/2011 12:14:32 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Seizethecarp; Fred Nerks; Brown Deer

The only marriage certificate you will ever see will be counterfeit and created after the fact.

Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein 0bama, Senior were never married.

.


37 posted on 05/12/2011 12:30:10 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Jim Noble; Fred Nerks

there was something about a baby born in January of 1961.


38 posted on 05/12/2011 12:39:53 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Beckwith

and even if one existed from the U.S., it wouldn’t be a legal marriage in this country.


39 posted on 05/12/2011 12:42:26 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Why wouldn’t the marriage be legal?


40 posted on 05/12/2011 12:43:57 PM PDT by Will Escott
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To: Beckwith

“The best evidence of a marriage would be a marriage license, or better yet, a state-issued marriage certificate.”

That is true, of course.

But if, as you agree, the divorce pleadings contain “the ONLY evidence of a marriage”, then that filing is the best (and certainly here the most persuasive) evidence, isn’t it?

IMO, what is of importance, other than the two assertions the parties were married, is to determine the motivation of the actors behind the two different dates. If either of the dates is accurate, the other deserves examination.


41 posted on 05/12/2011 12:49:41 PM PDT by frog in a pot (There is a reason U.S. birth certificates designate the birthplace of the parents.)
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To: Will Escott
Why wouldn’t the marriage be legal?

Probably because of BHO Sr.'s polygamy problem.

42 posted on 05/12/2011 12:58:15 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Beckwith

You are, of course, right but the divorce papers do provide prima facie evidence of a marriage.

Also I’ve been through a divorce and know other people who have and in every single case it was mandatory to produce a marriage certficate, etc, to start the ball rolling.

Maybe Hawaii is different.


43 posted on 05/12/2011 12:58:37 PM PDT by Will Escott
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To: Will Escott

Obama Senior was already married.


44 posted on 05/12/2011 12:59:05 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Will Escott

You didn’t know that bigamy is against the law in all 50 states of this country?


45 posted on 05/12/2011 1:09:50 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Menehune56

BHO, Sr, told his university he had divorced Kezia in 1959, before he left Kenya. In 1964/5 he married Ruth Nidesand in Kenya. The marriage was statutory, ie monogamy.

Bigamy has been a crime in Kenya since 1902.

He wasn’t arrested for bigamy and Ruth didn’t cite bigamy as grounds when she divorced him. She cited cruelty.

His family say he divorced Kezia in 1959.

Looks like he might have been telling the truth, for once.

Anyway the INS couldn’t prove bigamy either, and they tried. The British wouldn’t confirm he’d ever been married at all.

If the British said he wasn’t married US law had to presume he wasn’t. So, the marriage was legal.

The big question would have been whether his marriage to Stanley Ann Dunham was bogus. IMHO it was. If the British had asked the INS for details and decided it was they’d have revoked his passport and he’d have been deported ASAP. The INS probably wanted to do just that.


46 posted on 05/12/2011 1:12:25 PM PDT by Will Escott
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To: Brown Deer

Please read my answer to Menehune56.


47 posted on 05/12/2011 1:13:39 PM PDT by Will Escott
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To: Brown Deer

All of that is in Obama, Sr’s, INS file, and various articles in the British papers, if you read between the lines.


48 posted on 05/12/2011 1:16:11 PM PDT by Will Escott
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To: Will Escott; Fred Nerks; LucyT
He wasn’t arrested for bigamy and Ruth didn’t cite bigamy as grounds when she divorced him.

You have evidence of a divorce from Ruth? The fact is, she already knew of his other wives when she married him.

Where are you getting all of this nonsense from?
49 posted on 05/12/2011 1:24:07 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Take a look at the Kenyan court records for the divorce papers. Or, take a look at the “Daily Mail” and “Daily Telegraph” archives.

He certainly didn’t get arrested for bigamy.

That isn’t nonsense.

As for when Ruth knew about Kezia, I couldn’t tell you, for sure, because she apparently won’t talk about him. Maybe her son, Mark’s, book will say something. She certainly knew about Stanley Ann and found out about Kezia. As to whether she saw Kezia as a wife, or a girlfriend/mistress, I don’t know. She knew about Jael too. The other women in the USA, who knows?

Since she remarried while he was alive and since bigamy is a crime in Kenya I’d say we can presume a divorce there.

You do know Ruth is Jewish, yeah?


50 posted on 05/12/2011 1:36:08 PM PDT by Will Escott
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