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Court: No right to resist illegal cop entry into home[Indiana]
nwitimes ^ | Thursday, May 12, 2011 | Dan Carden

Posted on 05/13/2011 6:35:22 AM PDT by jaydubya2

INDIANAPOLIS | Overturning a common law dating back to the English Magna Carta of 1215, the Indiana Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Hoosiers have no right to resist unlawful police entry into their homes.

In a 3-2 decision, Justice Steven David writing for the court said if a police officer wants to enter a home for any reason or no reason at all, a homeowner cannot do anything to block the officer's entry.

"We believe ... a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence," David said. "We also find that allowing resistance unnecessarily escalates the level of violence and therefore the risk of injuries to all parties involved without preventing the arrest."

David said a person arrested following an unlawful entry by police still can be released on bail and has plenty of opportunities to protest the illegal entry through the court system.

The court's decision stems from a Vanderburgh County case in which police were called to investigate a husband and wife arguing outside their apartment.

When the couple went back inside their apartment, the husband told police they were not needed and blocked the doorway so they could not enter. When an officer entered anyway, the husband shoved the officer against a wall. A second officer then used a stun gun on the husband and arrested him.

Professor Ivan Bodensteiner, of Valparaiso University School of Law, said the court's decision is consistent with the idea of preventing violence.

"It's not surprising that they would say there's no right to beat the hell out of the officer," Bodensteiner said. "(The court is saying) we would rather opt on the side of saying if the police act wrongfully in entering your house your remedy is under law, to bring a civil action against the officer."

Justice Robert Rucker, a Gary native, and Justice Brent Dickson, a Hobart native, dissented from the ruling, saying the court's decision runs afoul of the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

"In my view the majority sweeps with far too broad a brush by essentially telling Indiana citizens that government agents may now enter their homes illegally -- that is, without the necessity of a warrant, consent or exigent circumstances," Rucker said. "I disagree."

Rucker and Dickson suggested if the court had limited its permission for police entry to domestic violence situations they would have supported the ruling.

But Dickson said, "The wholesale abrogation of the historic right of a person to reasonably resist unlawful police entry into his dwelling is unwarranted and unnecessarily broad."

This is the second major Indiana Supreme Court ruling this week involving police entry into a home.

On Tuesday, the court said police serving a warrant may enter a home without knocking if officers decide circumstances justify it. Prior to that ruling, police serving a warrant would have to obtain a judge's permission to enter without knocking.


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To: jaydubya2

This article is the reason why it is almost impossible to make up a humorous parody of government actions any more.

What looks like satire is real.


21 posted on 05/13/2011 6:45:30 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: jaydubya2
Wow.

THIS is what we fought the Cold War for?

Might as well have let the Soviets win.

22 posted on 05/13/2011 6:45:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: jaydubya2
This case must surely wind up in the USSC.
23 posted on 05/13/2011 6:46:51 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A "Moderate Muslim"? Nothing more than a Muslim Extremist who has run out of ammo.)
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To: allmendream

Many in Indiana will use the old judged by twelve is better than carried by six rule.


24 posted on 05/13/2011 6:47:16 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly

I can’t see how this possibly makes it safer for police or the citizens. And you know there are lot of people who become cops just so they can exert power over people—they have to be loving these rulings.

They don’t need to get a no knock warrant and they don’t even need a warrant. What they hell, why not just say they can rape woman while they are at it—there will be plenty of time via the justice system and free health care system to get your life back on track.


25 posted on 05/13/2011 6:48:47 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: jaydubya2

“Hi, I’m a police officer and I’m here to watch the Pacers game; what’s in the fridge?”

Benighted ruling from idiots on the bench (No, not the Pacers’ bench).


26 posted on 05/13/2011 6:49:43 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (e)
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To: Ratman83

Police often don’t let people they want dead (like someone who shot a LEO) make it far enought to be judged by twelve.


27 posted on 05/13/2011 6:52:05 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: jaydubya2

So if a thug decides to break into your home wearing a Police Uniform your supposed to surrender and do nothing.

While your trying to figure out if the thug is a real cop he decides to kill you and your family.To hell with that.

A cop without a search warrant should Not be allowed to get away with this and the Home owner has the right to defend himself.

That judge should be thrown off the bench.


28 posted on 05/13/2011 6:52:07 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: jimfree

“I don’t care. Shoot the MFs.”

With the increasing disregard of property boundaries by merely claiming to be police - both by police and in home invasion robberies, we’ll probably only resolve this after many more police and citizens are shot and killed by each other.

If the stated purpose was to avoid unnecessarily escalating violence, then it will fail - It may change where it escalates, but it will still fail.


29 posted on 05/13/2011 6:52:11 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: jaydubya2

This will not stand.


30 posted on 05/13/2011 6:52:23 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
This case must surely wind up in the USSC.

Only if the homeowner has the time and resources to appeal to the federal level. There is a good chance that he does not. Much of this comes from the intentionally broad definition of "domestic violence" to include simple arguments.

31 posted on 05/13/2011 6:52:25 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: jimfree
Easy to say. But I can guarantee that the POlice will have superior firepower as that poor Marine Corp veteran in Tuscan found out.

When the SWAT team arrives in full combat gear their adreline is pumping so hard, any sign that THEY feel is resistance will be met with massive firepower.
SHOCK & AWE!

In the immortal words of Mel Gibson as William Wallace, “We are fooked.”

32 posted on 05/13/2011 6:52:40 AM PDT by Tupelo
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To: jaydubya2

Sounds like the ex-droogie cops in Clockwork Orange


33 posted on 05/13/2011 6:52:59 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

This case must surely wind up in the USSC.

What do you think they’ll rule based upon their current history of ruling for institutions and against individual citizen rights? International bankers and corporations have more rights than citizens.

The trend in the USA is towards loss of privacy, loss of individual rights, and a police state and that has been in place even before 9-11. In MD and other states you can’t even record police actions as a defense or you’ll be charged. 9-11 was just icing on the cake for the fascists.


34 posted on 05/13/2011 6:53:59 AM PDT by apoliticalone (Conservatism is about putting the USA first, not international bankers and corporations)
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To: Sans-Culotte
Instead, they took the case as an opportunity to throw out unlawful search and seizure.

Like MOST liberal court decisions, they took a slim situation to over throw a HUGE law (you know that pesky 4th Amendment)! Can anyone say "over-reach?"

More importantly, their reasoning and ruling for the "modern" 4th Amendment, reads like current police officers would NEVER do anything illegal! What a crock! Corruption is readily available in every business/industry/service - all it takes is someone who is willing to be more self-serving! PERIOD!
35 posted on 05/13/2011 6:54:37 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: jaydubya2

First appeal the ruling then recall/remove/fire those judges.


36 posted on 05/13/2011 6:55:25 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: allmendream
The 4th Amendment now means nothing Indiana - you have NO right to unreasonable search and seizure - and the Police can and will search you and your home with or without any reason.

Well no actually, since the US Constitution trumps a ruling by a state Supreme Court. It is their ruling that means nothing. Of course to prove it, you would have to get a cop to enter your house illegally and then shoot him or something. Then appeal to the federal courts if your prosecuted under this ruling. So it might be a while before there is a test case.

37 posted on 05/13/2011 6:55:43 AM PDT by apillar
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To: jaydubya2
Any LEO who thinks this ruling is like “body armor” will end up seriously hurt. They should ask themselves right now...”Is the buzz that I get from violating a persons civil rights worth me not going home to my family tonight?”
38 posted on 05/13/2011 6:57:00 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Jared Lee Loughner - Disciple of Michael Moore)
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To: jaydubya2

Where the hell is Mitch Daniels?

The legislators need to pass a law to tell the courts that the Fourth Amendment is still in effect and to bug off.

Seriously.


39 posted on 05/13/2011 6:57:09 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: MrB
I’ll let the criminals know that all they have to do is yell “police” before they invade your home and attack your family,

While I lean on the side of shooting uninvited visitors, at that point, the homeowner knew that they were police.

40 posted on 05/13/2011 6:58:04 AM PDT by glorgau
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