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Police: Mom Assaults DCF Worker, Flees With 5 Children
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2011/04/13/police-mom-assaults-dcf-worker-flees-with-5-children/ ^ | 5/3/2011 | CBS

Posted on 06/03/2011 9:49:22 AM PDT by Morgana

MIAMI (CBS4) – City of Miami Police are desperate to find a mother and her five children after she allegedly beat up a Department of Children & Families case worker coming to take away the kids.

Authorities say DCF worker Lovern Alleyne-Babb, along with another co-worker, went to the home on the 400 block of Northwest 6th Street on April 8 with orders to remove the children from the home.

Once inside, police say the children’s mother, Caneema Atkins, lunged at Alleyne-Babb punching her in the nose and stomping on her eyeglasses.

(Excerpt) Read more at miami.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: child; children; escape; ontherun

1 posted on 06/03/2011 9:49:29 AM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

If Social Services have to take children away for reasons such as beating a child, starving one etc... perhaps it may be wise to bring law enforcement with you. I thought this was done usually by protocol?


2 posted on 06/03/2011 9:52:21 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Morgana

Holder’s ‘people’.


3 posted on 06/03/2011 9:54:04 AM PDT by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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To: Morgana

“After the attack, police say Atkins grabbed the children and fled the home in an unknown direction. She is considered to be dangerous.”

Dangerous to a government employee, apparently. They have not established (in this article) that she is a danger to her children.


4 posted on 06/03/2011 9:55:33 AM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Morgana

While this may have been an overreaction or evidence that DFC was right, it could just as easily be exactly the right response.


5 posted on 06/03/2011 9:56:56 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Morgana

5 Children, that’s a pretty big paycheck they are trying to take away from that woman.


6 posted on 06/03/2011 9:57:32 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Morgana

Five babies under the age of five and no mention of daddy. How sad.


7 posted on 06/03/2011 10:01:53 AM PDT by Millicent_Hornswaggle (Retired US Marine wife)
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To: momtothree

Back in 1973, the DC Police Department relieved Social Services of their responsibilities in the child abuse/neglect area. As a newly-minted Sergeant, I was assigned to that duty. Snatching kids out of a home can be a hairy experience. More than once, I wished I was back walking a beat in the projects.


8 posted on 06/03/2011 10:04:54 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN 66-67)
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To: Morgana

A friend of mine is a social worker in a similar job here in Los Angeles County. He hates his job. Overworked, and underpaid. It is thankless, sometimes dangerous, and painful work.


9 posted on 06/03/2011 10:09:36 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Immerito
They have not established (in this article) that she is a danger to her children.

they also don't say who the orders came from. was it just a DCF manager's sign off or an actual court order?
i don't trust children's service workers one bit, they do pretty much whatever they want on often unconstitutional grounds, and there's rarely any trial, parents are presumed guilty.
if there's sufficient evidence to remove children, there should be a uniformed officer bearing a warrant also there to arrest the parent.
11 posted on 06/03/2011 10:12:46 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: ComputerGuy

I can only imagine that anything “domestic” can get dangerous and quickly. Even in the worst abuse cases (starving, beating, burning with cigarettes, rape), the perpetrator feels that it is their “right” to these kids. They already have shown an attitude toward violence. What is probably the saddest are the little kids screaming for their mother... the same one who hurt them. I am sure those days are still with you in your nightmares.


12 posted on 06/03/2011 10:13:38 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: momtothree
During my thirteen months with the Marines in Vietnam, I saw things...
In no way did that prepare me for seeing what a parent can do to a child. Am I allowed to say that it pi$$ed me off?
13 posted on 06/03/2011 10:20:46 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN 66-67)
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To: momtothree

This is DCF. The word wise is not in their vocabulary.


14 posted on 06/03/2011 10:22:42 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: ComputerGuy

Absolutely. I have no sympathy for anyone, parent included, to hurt a child. I have a friend who use to volunteer as a children’s advocate (notice I used past tense). Her first case involved going to an emergency room and seeing a toddler with cigarette burns all over his little body. Social Services would “investigate later” and the hospital had no other choice than to release this baby back to his abuser. Well, my friend got so infuriated that she punched the woman in the face. Needless to say, she was asked to longer volunteer.


15 posted on 06/03/2011 10:25:35 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: momtothree

What evidence do we have that this mother abused or neglected her children?


16 posted on 06/03/2011 10:26:05 AM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Immerito

I’m too lazy to see if she has a record. If anyone wants to check, the Dade County Clerk of Court public access site will show any past and current charges against her.


17 posted on 06/03/2011 10:29:11 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Immerito

The article simply isn’t forthcoming with information. In fact, child abuse cases are rarely reported unless they are severe: children found dead in a freezer, homicide, etc... We rarely read the cases like a toddler with venereal warts or a baby with an STD. There are both cases: one where Social Services completely over-reacts to something like bible study and the cases that make us want to vomit. It is that simple.


18 posted on 06/03/2011 10:29:48 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: momtothree

That’s why the MPDC was put in charge of those cases. The hospitals were required to call the police, not the social workers. We had the power of arrest - and used it :)


19 posted on 06/03/2011 10:30:52 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN 66-67)
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To: Morgana
“Unfortunately, this is something that our investigators face every day. They walk into these houses, they don’t have a badge, they don’t have a gun, they have their ID. They come in there into situations which may be dangerous,” said Lissette Valdes-Valle, a spokesperson for DCF.

This is directly from the story.

Well WTF does she expect. If some plainclothed so-called government employee with what may or may not be a valid ID tried to push their way into my home and couldn't produce a valid warrant to enter the premise, I probably would deliver a royal a$$kicking myself.

20 posted on 06/03/2011 10:34:04 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Morgana
Why does this photo not surprise me?


21 posted on 06/03/2011 10:35:16 AM PDT by NRA1995 ("In the [Mexican] border, we are asking, who are you?" President Calderon of Mexico)
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To: Morgana

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Mother-Takes-Off-With-Kids-After-Punching-Case-Worker-119808114.html

She turned herself in.


22 posted on 06/03/2011 10:37:40 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Use it up, wear it out, make it over or do without.)
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To: Morgana

The so called “Child Protective Services” people can be the most vile, cruel individuals imaginable. In many cases, the entire system is cynical and demonic.

If you’ve never done so, read this story. It’s very long, but eye opening, and I don’t think it’s an isolated account.

http://ivalenti.com/nosnow.pdf


23 posted on 06/03/2011 10:40:18 AM PDT by no gnu taxes
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To: ComputerGuy

“We had the power of arrest and used it”.

For those cases that weren’t easily explained (like toddlers really do fall or Junior really did stick frozen peas up his nose)... imagine the lives you may have changed for the better. If not the better, than at least for the time the abuser was locked up.


24 posted on 06/03/2011 10:42:25 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Morgana

My wife, who has spent over a decade helping single moms, often has told me of incidents where the child welfare agents have threatened clients with taking all children away if the mom would not follow their “recommendation” for this or that minor matter. Consequently, I now know that not all cases of “abuse” are abuse of a child by a parent but are in fact attempts at tyrannous abuse of government upon a relatively helpless and financially dependent poor family.


25 posted on 06/03/2011 10:43:16 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: momtothree

And they are sometimes falsely reported. Innocent families have been destroyed or marred because of DCFS.

You are assuming that the mother is guilty without information to support that warrant.

The presence of a government employee at the scene does automatically indicate that the private citizen is guilty.


26 posted on 06/03/2011 10:44:03 AM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: momtothree

I like to think that I/we were astute enough to recognize what was going on. Our track record was pretty good. As my old Sergeant told us in the Police Academy, “your greatest power is that of discretion.”


27 posted on 06/03/2011 10:46:59 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN 66-67)
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To: Immerito

“... they are sometimes falsely reported”

Very true. There are unfortunately the cases that go unreported, hidden or they simply find the little bodies later.


28 posted on 06/03/2011 10:49:41 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: momtothree
There are both cases: one where Social Services completely over-reacts to something like bible study and the cases that make us want to vomit. It is that simple.

True, but it seems the social serpents go after the former because they are less likely to suffer any personal repercussions than they would be from the latter. I have seen both ends of it, where there were good and gentle people unjustly accused, and the horror show of the real thing (as EMS). All too often, in the latter case, the child is released back into the genuinely abusive situation while the wrongly accused are dragged through a titwringer.

29 posted on 06/03/2011 10:51:39 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Immerito

The “child savers” destroyed our family. There are sooo many variables here, we can’t pass judgement either way. The most I will say is: I’m surprised this doesn’t happen more often. Pray for the kids.


30 posted on 06/03/2011 11:29:45 AM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: momtothree

None of those three scenarios apply in this case.

A false report, however, could apply.

It is a tragedy that, all too often, CPS removes children from loving, great parents because they fell afoul of some PC rule, and ignores cases of genuinely abused children.

The government (DCFS) is not there to help.

“Government (DCFS) is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.” —George Washington


31 posted on 06/03/2011 11:51:00 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: absolootezer0

I suspect the former, since a court order was not mentioned.

However, that does not mean there was no court order.


32 posted on 06/03/2011 11:53:13 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: LongElegantLegs

The comments at the site are interesting; many of them are in support of the mother.


33 posted on 06/04/2011 12:04:13 AM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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