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Krauthammer: "Middle-Aged May Never Get Employed Again"
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Posted on 07/05/2011 10:26:48 AM PDT by traumer

Edited on 07/05/2011 10:28:25 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

"The problem is at the consumer level, confidence is low and that is because, as you showed, showed we had underemployment with one out of every six Americans. The worst element of that is that among the unemployed, against the American history, more than approaching half, have [been] unemployed for over six months.


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1 posted on 07/05/2011 10:26:54 AM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

Rush is talking about this very thing right now.


2 posted on 07/05/2011 10:30:35 AM PDT by supremedoctrine ("uncurtaining the night,I'd let dark glass/hang all the furniture above the grass." -Nabokov)
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To: traumer
It will be harder than ever to uproot socialism if you have a large contingent of middle-aged people who are considered unemployable.

We can let them starve, or ... we can send them checks and make the workers pay higher taxes.

Pain is coming. It could take several forms, but there is no gentle trajectory that takes us out of this problem.

3 posted on 07/05/2011 10:34:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

but someone will have to pay for that all!


4 posted on 07/05/2011 10:35:53 AM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: traumer

As we dumb down the country and produce less and less we do not need more expensive experienced workers, we just need warm bodies; young & dumb.


5 posted on 07/05/2011 10:36:43 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: traumer

All I can say is that when you sow the wind, you reap the whirlwind. It was those middle-aged people who are most responsible for running up the various state and national debts.


6 posted on 07/05/2011 10:37:05 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: traumer
I wonder how those pro-Obama 20 somethings are going to feel when they get out in the workforce and their taxes go up so that middle age folks can sit at home and collect welfare and unemployment.
7 posted on 07/05/2011 10:37:54 AM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar

“I wonder how those pro-Obama 20 somethings are going to feel when they get out in the workforce and their taxes go up so that middle age folks can sit at home and collect welfare and unemployment.”

One word.

Euthanasia.


8 posted on 07/05/2011 10:39:13 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: ClearCase_guy
It will be harder than ever to uproot socialism if you have a large contingent of middle-aged people who are considered unemployable.

Although it hardly addresses the bigger problem of an out of control government that has grown into such a behemoth that it consumes and enslaves taxpayers in its wake --- a large degree of this problem would be alleviated by not providing jobs and taxpayer funded benefits to illegal invaders/squatters. There would be more jobs available to American citizens (youths and middle-aged 'between jobs'), and less of a tax-burden for the employed non-Government workers...
>30M illegals in this Country has a cost burden associated with it.

9 posted on 07/05/2011 10:40:09 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: MNDude

The only thing that will ease the pain is do everything we can do get people back to work. This debt/no debt, taxes/no taxes, cutting/no cutting are only partial solutions. Regulations need to be gutted and employers need to be able to fire worthless employees, union or not, with no worry about some trumped up discrimination case. Employers also need to be able to adjust inflated wages. Take a pay cut to what the market will bear, or go find another job. Worthless, non productive members of society can pick lettuce or get someone other than a taxpayer to pay their way through life. Not gonna happen, so we will all crash and burn.


10 posted on 07/05/2011 10:42:18 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: MNDude

I believe that is called reality.


11 posted on 07/05/2011 10:43:43 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Or wars...


12 posted on 07/05/2011 10:44:37 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: ClearCase_guy

Bar stool. Cell Phone. Racing Form. Employment in your old age.


13 posted on 07/05/2011 10:48:51 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: traumer
If there are an unemployed freepers out there who seek encouragement and advice, please send me a private email. I am NOT hawking anything! I am in my forties with a very good resume (”good” until unemployment, that is.) I lost my VP-at-a-large-company job in June 2009 and then couldn't look for work for a year on account of a family matter, so I was effectively in limbo from June 2009 to May 2010. From June 2010 to December 2010, I killed myself trying to find a job and then relievedly took a long-term temp spot in January 2010. Two weeks ago, the company where I've been temping made me a “regular” employee. My salary is 25% below what it was two years ago, but I have benefits and the future looks bright. I believe I can offer sound advice to middle-aged unemployed people who are despairing. Again, please shoot me a private email.
14 posted on 07/05/2011 10:49:15 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: massgopguy

Naaahhhh !

I’m doing deals out of my home office.


15 posted on 07/05/2011 10:53:10 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: Jonty30
All I can say is that when you sow the wind, you reap the whirlwind. It was those middle-aged people who are most responsible for running up the various state and national debts.

Tell that to my BIL, a 49 year old engineer, laid off from a Fortune 500 company three years ago. 21 years there. The best he has been able to get in that time is temp work in warehouses for a few months at a time. He is fit, able and eager to work at any job. No dice for people over 45. He is a rock solid conservative.

He didn't sow any wind, Jerk.

16 posted on 07/05/2011 10:56:50 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: traumer

get rid of the EPA, get rid of 90% of regulations, and you would double manufacturing in 2-3 years.

non-right to work states would and will be screwed, as no one will build manufacturing plants in those areas because of the union regulations, unless they are offered millions or billions in incentives (which comes from the taxpayers).

but I don’t see this happening, manufacturing is gone, and I don’t think it is coming back.

the only jobs that can be created at this point are government, which as we’ve seen, costs 300k to a million bucks to create one part time position that pays 20k a year, and those jobs only last a year or two, because they get cut in budgets that need to pay for the pensions of the union members.

we’ll be moving more and more to a barter system for goods and services.


17 posted on 07/05/2011 10:56:51 AM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: utahagen

I am in my fifties and was laid off at the end of 2009. I am the left’s worst nightmare. A staunch conservative that has voluntarily dropped out of the workforce, cutting our family taxable income in half. Spending my new found spare time bashing the left and working to insure they are defeated in every election until I die. My small way of going Galt.


18 posted on 07/05/2011 10:56:53 AM PDT by Boiling point (Cain / Palin 2012)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic
Your solution is the correct one.

1. Reduce the risk of, and increase the potential gain from, creating a job. All federal, state, and local regulations and laws that disincentivise job creation should be reviewed, including those that ostensibly protect the environment and those that increase the difficuly of disciplining an employee who happens to be of a protected class.

2. Reduce or eliminate the corporate income tax. It makes no sense to tax corporate income twice, once at the corporate level and once at the dividend level.

3. Strictly enforce the ban on hiring illegals and forbid the participation of illegals in safety net programs.

4. Disincentivise idleness by reducing the level of support the unemployed receive - someone is going to have to do the jobs previously performed by the departed illegals.

If taken, these four steps would dramatically reduce the unemployment rate and improve all of our fortunes, monetary and otherwise.

19 posted on 07/05/2011 10:58:00 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: El Cid
Although it hardly addresses the bigger problem of an out of control government that has grown into such a behemoth that it consumes and enslaves taxpayers in its wake --- a large degree of this problem would be alleviated by not providing jobs and taxpayer funded benefits to illegal invaders/squatters.

There was an astonishing fact posted on another thread about California recently. The State Budget was something like $26B in the hole, and they estimated that paying for illegals was costing about $23B. Even with the obvious answer staring them in the face, California's "leaders" won't do the right thing.

20 posted on 07/05/2011 10:59:56 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: massgopguy
Bar stool. Cell Phone. Racing Form. Employment in your old age.

I'll take Barry O to place in the 2nd race.

21 posted on 07/05/2011 11:01:23 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Boiling point

Good for you! Go get ‘em! Life gave you lemons and you made lemonade. Keep fighting the good fight for conservatism.


22 posted on 07/05/2011 11:01:50 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: ClearCase_guy
We can let them starve, or ... we can send them checks and make the workers pay higher taxes.

Who's talking about sending them checks? Once their unemployment insurance (which they paid into) runs out they're SOL right? You can't get welfare unless you have dependent children under 18, or am I missing something?

23 posted on 07/05/2011 11:10:03 AM PDT by Bullish (The golfer takes all the credit and gives the jet fighter pilot all the blame.)
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To: Boiling point

You are my hero.


24 posted on 07/05/2011 11:10:38 AM PDT by farlander (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: traumer

The only way out of this, sustainably, is to get back to bedrock principles and fight our way out. I just don’t see the will to do that among many. We don’t even have a consistent national identity anymore. Interestingly, the last time public pride in America and confidence in our nation’s future were approaching levels as low as they are now was at the end of the Carter presidency.


25 posted on 07/05/2011 11:18:10 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: traumer
I'll be working two part-time jobs for the rest of my working years. I make half of what I made 5 years, BUT I am Soooo grateful to have steady work.
26 posted on 07/05/2011 11:18:59 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Bullish
I'm not making any sort of recommendation. I just see a good 10% of the population having no financial means to speak of.

Unemployment? It's gone. Used up. It only lasts for so long.
Welfare? They don't qualify.
Mortgage? They lost the house a long time ago.
Job? Officially declared unemployable.

If America has something like 20 million people in that situation, then what happens next? The number of options is limited:

Civil unrest and violence as an army of the unemployed express their frsustration.
Mass starvation as people with no resources give up and die.
Politicians decide to expand the notion of welfare and send out a lot of checks so that there is neither unrest nor starvation.

I don't know what will happen, but I don't see how society can limp along indefinitely just doing the same old same old. At some point, something has to give.

27 posted on 07/05/2011 11:20:00 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: traumer

I’m a:

1) 44 year old conservative male
2) college educated
3) Possess a class A CDL
4) Microsoft Certified
5) Own 1/5 of a bar—not much money there-bars have razor thin profit margins
6) I’m presently working in a dead end job(warehousing) at a company that really isn’t going anywhere
7) I have come to accept that my prime earning days have probably past me by.
8) I am in extreme economic survival mode at this time.

Am I angry or depressed??? NO!!!!

The government can tax me to death.
The left can PC me to death with insane racial quotas or EOE directed at women.
The media can ridicule white males as knuckle dragging, draconian,Bible Thumping, Bitter Clinging re-necks.

But none of this will ever break my F__kin’ spirit.

The left want a battle....they F’d with the wrong person.

In my mind, I’m a very free man and the left CAN NEVER take THAT away!!!!

JMO...


28 posted on 07/05/2011 11:20:20 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: traumer
I'll be working two part-time jobs for the rest of my working years. I make half of what I made 5 years, BUT I am Soooo grateful to have steady work.
29 posted on 07/05/2011 11:20:20 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Bump

TT


30 posted on 07/05/2011 11:24:32 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is real islam. Moderate islam is the trojan horse.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

But none of this will ever break my F__kin’ spirit.

The left want a battle....they F’d with the wrong person.

In my mind, I’m a very free man and the left CAN NEVER take THAT away!!!!

AMEN BRO! I’M THERE WITH YOU.


31 posted on 07/05/2011 11:24:57 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: traumer
Hey Charles, your'e an idiot. If Sarah wins the GOP nomination I am 100% certain that you will endorse Obama. NO elite will ever support someone like Sarah. Their arrogance knows no bounds.

Hey Charles, you and your stupid elites from the Ivy league schools have done irreparable harm to our Republic!

Hey Charles, you and your piggish elite friends think with your superior intellects can construct an economic system (Socialism) and out perform Capitalism. Never will happen.

Charles, you and your elites buddies are true parasites on back of the productive in this society. You deserve nothing but contempt.

Hey Charles, if we had the Republic our Founders wanted us to have, (unbridled capitalism, almost unseen central govt), then we would be enjoying vacation homes on the Moon and Mars. Instead, with the left winning, we are being pushed into a Socialist sewer, all the while being told it's our fault.

32 posted on 07/05/2011 11:26:05 AM PDT by sand88 (Sarah Palin announces her run: August 12, 2011 11:10am ET)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yeah, I see you understand the situation but some people seem to think that unemployable middle aged folks are laying around at home collecting welfare from taxpayers or something, they’re not. That they’re too lazy to go find a job, they’re are not. The jobs aren’t there for millions of them.

They’re in as dire a shape as people during the depression and many have nowhere to turn if they don’t have relatives that will help. I don’t see any quick solution for them. Do you?


33 posted on 07/05/2011 11:27:46 AM PDT by Bullish (The golfer takes all the credit and gives the jet fighter pilot all the blame.)
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To: p. henry

Sorry all your ideas would not create enough jobs quick enough. We can’t create enough new jobs here. Look at what you buy, see where it is made and you will see why our unemployment is high. We have to bring them back the old jobs we exported. Then those middle agers would be employed again doing what they did before. This is a no-brainer.


34 posted on 07/05/2011 11:28:06 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: traumer

My simplistic concern on this issue is that -

‘Middle Aged’ have the real world technology know-how, the young ones have the academic know-how.

It could be that the young can and will rediscover first hand knowledge, but it could be argued that they will benefit from learning from the ‘Middle Aged’.

Companies hiring the 20-somethings mostly for their cheaper starting salaries and ‘gambled’ on the technology transfer by the Middle Aged willingly and completely.


35 posted on 07/05/2011 11:30:58 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: utahagen

my personal advice to the employed in this market:

1. keep your skill set very competitive. it’s a hassle but we have to constantly assess the market and then update our skills (e.g., classes, certifications) to match what is on the horizon and what recruiters currently want.

2. keep your boat in the river. keep your resume updated and out on the internet so others can decide they can’t live without you.

3. let God have control of your life and career. you can do all you can do to help your situation, but ultimately it is comforting to know that someone else is in control and has your best in mind.


36 posted on 07/05/2011 11:31:15 AM PDT by applpie
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To: Bullish
About the only thing I'm sure of these days is that there are no quick solutions.

Back in the Great Depression, a lot of people understood how to grow food, make clothes, fix things, or do manual labor. Rough times, but people got by. And, let's face it, life expectancy (emphasis on "expectancy") was short. If you could "get by" until age 50 or 55, then you did OK and people didn't make a big deal out of it when you keeled over.

Today? So many people cannot produce food, makes clothes, or fix anything. And just about everyone feels they are above manual labor. And everyone expects (there's that word again) to live to be 75, while vacationing at their beach house and taking the occasional trip to Europe.

People want to act like it's 1998, but it's really 1933. We are not prepared. I think when it really hits home, a lot of heads will explode -- "What do you mean? I thought we had green shoots!"

37 posted on 07/05/2011 11:34:06 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
If America has something like 20 million people in that situation, then what happens next?

Hello rooftop, hello rifle.

38 posted on 07/05/2011 11:35:05 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: p. henry
p.henry....excellent methods and ideas, these...
1. Reduce the risk of, and increase the potential gain from, creating a job. All federal, state, and local regulations and laws that disincentivise job creation should be reviewed, including those that ostensibly protect the environment and those that increase the difficuly of disciplining an employee who happens to be of a protected class.
2. Reduce or eliminate the corporate income tax. It makes no sense to tax corporate income twice, once at the corporate level and once at the dividend level.
3. Strictly enforce the ban on hiring illegals and forbid the participation of illegals in safety net programs.
4. Disincentivise idleness by reducing the level of support the unemployed receive - someone is going to have to do the jobs previously performed by the departed illegals.
If taken, these four steps would dramatically reduce the unemployment rate and improve all of our fortunes, monetary and otherwise.

However, the real "crux" of these four steps came in the last sentence above (underlined for our edification and enjoyment)

So...employing realism to these four steps, let's put a percentage on the probability of them happening in the next 5.5 years (the stain's full second term).

Step 1. = < 2%,
Step 2. = <5%,
Step 3. = ~15%,
Step 4. = ~ 20%

Now...next big challenge. Given the present state of the US economy, and the present political divisions...and assuming that the stain and his entire regime will be in power until 2016....please provide 4 steps that can be taken now - in the real world - that could actually happen and that would do the same amount of good the "fantasy" four steps already cited would do...but will never see the light of day.

39 posted on 07/05/2011 11:39:49 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be REMOVED (ERADICATED)....NOW!!)
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To: p. henry
p.henry....excellent methods and ideas, these...
1. Reduce the risk of, and increase the potential gain from, creating a job. All federal, state, and local regulations and laws that disincentivise job creation should be reviewed, including those that ostensibly protect the environment and those that increase the difficuly of disciplining an employee who happens to be of a protected class.
2. Reduce or eliminate the corporate income tax. It makes no sense to tax corporate income twice, once at the corporate level and once at the dividend level.
3. Strictly enforce the ban on hiring illegals and forbid the participation of illegals in safety net programs.
4. Disincentivise idleness by reducing the level of support the unemployed receive - someone is going to have to do the jobs previously performed by the departed illegals.
If taken, these four steps would dramatically reduce the unemployment rate and improve all of our fortunes, monetary and otherwise.

However, the real "crux" of these four steps came in the last sentence above (underlined for our edification and enjoyment)

So...employing realism to these four steps, let's put a percentage on the probability of them happening in the next 5.5 years (the stain's full second term).

Step 1. = < 2%,
Step 2. = <5%,
Step 3. = ~15%,
Step 4. = ~ 20%

Now...next big challenge. Given the present state of the US economy, and the present political divisions...and assuming that the stain and his entire regime will be in power until 2016....please provide 4 steps that can be taken now - in the real world - that could actually happen and that would do the same amount of good the "fantasy" four steps already cited would do...but will never see the light of day.

Game on???

40 posted on 07/05/2011 11:40:02 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be REMOVED (ERADICATED)....NOW!!)
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To: p. henry

Tort reform needs to be in the list.


41 posted on 07/05/2011 11:42:19 AM PDT by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Back in the Great Depression, a lot of people understood how to grow food, make clothes, fix things, or do manual labor.

True, most people were less specialized and citified than now. And there were still plenty of family farms in those days, many people had relatives with land that could feed an extended family if necessary.

42 posted on 07/05/2011 11:43:16 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

People want to act like it’s 1998, but it’s really 1933.


Then FDR started the WPA to hire older people and the CCC for the younger folks. But today there is work. Look at what you buy. It is work elsewhere. This is work that used to be here. Bring it back. Why isn’t it done? Campaign contributors owns both parties. Perot, who heard the job sucking sound, would be elected today. The alternative to private business not hiring people, is that the government will. Some call that socialism, some call it work.


43 posted on 07/05/2011 11:44:59 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: traumer

Old school unemployment charts which have not been tinkered with by Zero’s administration can be found at http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts

Real unemployment has been above 20% for a long time


44 posted on 07/05/2011 11:45:15 AM PDT by Nobel_1 (bring on the Patriots!)
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To: traumer

When my business crapped in December of 2008, I fired up the resume machine and looked forward to returning to some type of manufacturing job. After almost two years of looking and hundreds of resumes sent out, I was told by a friend in the placement industry that because I was sixty years old, I should find a way to retire gracefully. It was providential that my sixty-second birthday was around the corner so we went ahead with an early retirement. I could not imagine being a few years younger and having to hand out smiley faces at Wally World to scrape by until retirement.


45 posted on 07/05/2011 11:48:12 AM PDT by Big_Harry (Ecc10:2 "A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left")
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To: buccaneer81

The fact is that the baby boomers got their education subsidized, got the government to give them all sorts of goodies, regardless of the damage they were doing to future generations.

The baby boomer generation could have stopped the debt from getting impossibly big, as they stopped Vietnam, but their subsidized living was more important to that generation than the consequences.

Would it be nice if the consequences of liberalism could fall on those who are liberal-minded? Sure, but the rain has always fallen on the good and evil.

Don’t call me jerk. I didn’t play a part in creating this mess to the same degree anybody 45 years or older played. I just get to live with the consequences.


46 posted on 07/05/2011 11:53:56 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

What are you? A mamaluke? They’ll put a wire on your home phone!


47 posted on 07/05/2011 11:53:56 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Codeflier
Agreed.

The net affect of the current tort system is to increase the premiums for liability insurance, in that it socializes individual losses and attorneys fees through the insurance industry. Tort reform, which would include class action suits, construction defect suits, ADA suits, and medical malpractise, and would resuscitate the concept of assumption of risk, would help the general economy through the reduced premiums that would result from causing some losses to be retained by individuals and not spread over society as a whole.

48 posted on 07/05/2011 11:59:22 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: apillar; PetroniusMaximus

Pro-Obama 20 somethings don’t have feelings. They have thrills.


49 posted on 07/05/2011 12:11:06 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: Max in Utah
Hello rooftop, hello rifle.

Yes, I think it's just a matter of time. It's hard to say exactly when this will begin, but trouble rides a fast horse.

50 posted on 07/05/2011 1:00:03 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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