Skip to comments.Noise Prompts Monroeville Restaurant To Ban Young Kids
Posted on 07/09/2011 7:21:34 PM PDT by Immerito
MONROEVILLE, Pa. -- Stephanie Kelley, of Trafford, has been a weekly customer of McDain's Restaurant and Golf Center. Not any more.
The eatery on Broadway Boulevard in Monroeville has decided to stop admitting young children, and she's the mother of a toddler.
"I can't believe this. I am offended. This is just an ignorant policy," Kelley told Team 4 investigator Jim Parsons.
In an email sent to loyal McDain's customers, owner Mike Vuick wrote, "Beginning July 16, 2011, McDain's Restaurant will no longer admit children under six years of age. We feel that McDain's is not a place for young children. Their volume can't be controlled and many, many times, they have disturbed other customers."
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It’s her prerogative.
I have a sneaking suspicion that her child was one of the misbehaving children (though she would never admit it).
The parents of well-behaved children in my acquaintance wouldn’t complain about a rule like this; they’d just make a note to have a date night at the restaurant.
“”I can’t believe this. I am offended.”
So am I every time I hear screaming kids and see useless parents letting it happen.
There’s a Chucky Cheese on William Penn In Monroeville.
You said it.
But, ask nicely for the useless parent to do something about their “precious” and they’re calling the cops on you.
I cant believe this. I am offended.
Your snotty brats offend me.
Theres a Chucky Cheese on William Penn In Monroeville.
I’m glad those days are long past.
When I want some entertainment on youtube, I input “hockey fights”.
When I want some REAL entertainment on youtube, I put in “Chuck E. Cheese Fights”.
Anyway, I will give any restaurant that bans screaming crumb crunchers at least a second look and no I do not hate children.
no one kicks smelly, loud, slow older people out of places...but kids are fair game...
and so it goes...our war on children and how "inconvenient" they can be....
I have three kids who do enjoy eating out. Of course, we tend towards family friendly joints, it’s amazing how quiet a menu and some crayons can keep kids. And they know our expectations.
It should be the resturant’s choice, but I have to wonder, is there a discrimination law they are violating?
Another RUDE thing that parents let their kids do...is give the waiter/waitress an order. I’m embarrassed and angry for the server when some 4-7 year old kid spits and stutters while giving the server an order while mommy and daddy giggle.
As the mother of a flock, good for the owner. Other people’s children drive me nuts sometimes.
I often feel like we’re the only parents who ever discipline their children or expect them to behave quietly in public.
It’s the restaurant’s choice—be it race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, age, or if they just don’t like your looks. Like your home, it’s their property, and they can admit whom they please. Sounds cruel, but only to the ignorant.
When my kids were little, noisy and PITA’s my hub and I went out to eat one night to what was considered an “adult” restaurant (it had a bar) to GET AWAY from our noisy bratty kids and spend some romantic time alone. Didnt happen...some a$$ brought their somewhat newly- born who cried (screeched) the whole time. We never went back. That restaurant soon closed. We only brought our kids to “kid friendly” places and McD’s is still there!
Some parents have allowed their children to run around the restaurant, play “hide and seek” under other patron’s tables, poke food on other patrons plates, and scream at the top of their lungs for several minutes without removing them.
I suspect that the restaurant’s patrons have had enough of the “well-behaved” children described above.
I have only had one experience with children being a nuisance when we were at a restaurant. We were at Cracker Barrel, waiting inside for a table because it was too cold to wait outside. There were several other families waiting inside, too, with children. If you’ve never been in a Cracker Barrel, you always enter through the retail store to get to the restaurant. Anyway, these kids were running in and around the merchandise aisles, yelling at each other. I saw a stuffed animal being thrown over one of the aisles, and then a little later, I heard glass breaking. When we were finally taken to a table, a baby started screaming at the table beside of us.
Other than that, children don’t bother me when eating out. haha
I stopped eating out a while ago for just this reason. If I can’t sit and enjoy a meal, then why do it?
My daughter was not allowed to act like an animal in a public setting and I expect the same from every other parent. Not a lot to ask. Since they don’t seem to agree, I just remove myself from the equation and the businesses that let kids rule the roost lose the income.
But it's a thought that brings a smile to my face....
Chilluns should be SEEN, NOT HEARD! An old adage — TRUE
“But, ask nicely for the useless parent to do something about their precious and theyre calling the cops on you.”
Yes, it is so irritating. And I say this as a mother who (years ago) had to bring her upset children outside when we tried to go to a restaurant. Sometimes, it just doesn’t work, and you have to go home.
If you OWN your own establishment in New York City you cannot allow smoking..even if you’re the owner and smoke you have to go outside your OWN building. I’m an ex-smoker but I hate this law because I believe in the logic you just stated. While we’re at it...I hate ALL no smoking laws on a LEGAL product!!!
“... feel like we’re the only parents who ever discipline their children”.
Right there with you, Mountainbunny. My children aren’t perfect but they have always behaved in a restaurant. We have received many compliments over the years because people were amazed at just how good they acted. Now, no one saw or heard the “talk” in the car before going in. It was clear cut instructions and expectations of behavior. NO loud talking, say please/thank you, eat like a lady or gentleman, no running, standing, walking around etc, etc, etc. They knew what was expected of them going in. I have seen wild hooligan children doing all sorts of stuff... dumping plates of spaghetti, throwing food, screaming, temper tantrums. To be honest, there have been other people’s kids that ruined our meal. If a private owner of a restaurant wants a ban on kids, it is his or her right IMHO
That resturant would make it to the TOP of my lists to go to. Tired of not being able to have a conversation; because some mis-behaving brat is throwing a tantrum, is running uncontrolled, is screaming or making noise.
Surprisingly, every parent thinks that what they produced is the golden child, their precious little prince/princess can do no wrong - that any noise they make is merriment to everyone else. The rules that everyone else must live by; are utterly optional for them.
Good for this resturant; I hope their business SURGES.
I have friends whose two boys were taught from a very young age how to behave in nice restaurants.
When they behaved, they were treated with respect and were made a part of the whole group. The took part in the conversation with everyone else and so, had a good time with everyone else.
When they misbehaved one parent or the other would mostly just give “the look” and that was mostly all it took. The parents decided what was for dinner, not the boys, and because it had always been that way, there was no argument.
I had another friend who was so impressed with her children, he walked over to her table with a bottle of nice wine, thanked her for how well behaved her children were, and filled her glass.
Read my post...I’m sure it will and good luck to him ...I say!
I love that sign. A local toy store has that sign and they added “a large chocolate bar”.
Yes, some people have no common sense. Your habits with the kids sound like ours when ours were little. My 14 month old grandson is such a joy. Now it’s my daughter’s turn and it’s fun to watch her and her husband with that little guy.
I have no grandkids yet but like You, they will do no wrong and they won’t be screeching... they’ll be whimpering...so get used to it, you “looking-for-romance bigots”...LOL
Years ago we went on trip to Florida with my grandparents. They took the whole family.
My young cousin was usually a brat in the restaurants. My grandad was a calm quiet man. One day my cousin was screaming and acting out in the restaurant.
Grandpa got out of his chair, picked my cousin up and took him out to the car and shut the door. The kid was still screaming. Grandpa stood there smoking his cigar and told him “when you decide you are done screaming, we will go back inside”. LOL About 15 minutes later they returned and not a peep came out of the kid.
The boy was always good after that in the restaurants.
I don’t think too many people care to have to eat their dinner around noisy brats. It should be the job of parents instead of restaurant making the rules. If this place can afford to lose those customers, the owner has a right to set the rules.
An older couple seated near us stopped at our table as they were leaving to compliment us on how well-behaved our son was.
Now, he was was no paragon of perfect behavior, but he had stayed in his chair and not screeched nor pitched a fit.
He did, however, appear a perfect little angel compared to the two or three families seated near us. Their children were running around the restaurant, chasing each other, yelling, and (Yech!) playing in the food still on the buffet line. The parents all sat at their tables, drinking coffee, conversing, and paying no attention whatsoever to their offspring.
I never found misbehavior and excessive noisiness "cute" in my children nor anybody else's, and I get less patient with it as I get older.
I'd pay this place a visit if I lived anywhere near it.
We didn’t go out to eat very often when the kids were small, but when we did, on at least two occasions, strangers approached us and complimented us on how very well behaved our children were. Of course, we felt proud of them, but I always was worried that after saying that, the kids would start acting up. Thankfully, that never happened.
Sigh - if only I could bok a “kiddo-free” flight.
OH well, at least in 1st class there is a smaller chance of being stuck next to smelly screamer for 4 hours.....
Yeah, I’ve got two little kids. We go to restaurants with balloons and free kids meals. There for a while we didn’t go to any restaurants because one kid had a penchant for what I like to call “the random screams.” He grew out of it. Then we could go back to balloons.
I don’t care for screaming/ill-behaved kids in public, whether it be a restaurant, movie theater, church or retail store. My mother didn’t allow me to act like a brat.
Another RUDE thing that parents let their kids do...is give the waiter/waitress an order”
Strongly disagree with you. When we are in a family restaurant and there is a children’s menu, once my grandson learned to read he was allowed to order. Children learn by doing. My grandson orders in about one tenth of the time it takes my DIL and then she always changes her mind. We have always let him choose something to take with him to the restaurant to occupy himself. Everyone is much happier this way, including those sitting around us.
Good. I hope it is the start of a global trend!
No, it’s a private business. They have the right (or ought to ) to ban people from their establishment if they choose to do so. Restaurants that ban too many customers find themselves at a competitive disadvantage. This restaurant must have a good reason for its policy.
There are plenty of sit-down restaurants that allow children.
It is possible she has a good child. She may feel she’s being “discriminated against” because of others of “her” group, IYW.
However, I think I would be more disappointed than anything else if I really liked the place. After all, the age thing changes - she can go back with him in a few years.
“No, its a private business. They have the right (or ought to ) to ban people from their establishment if they choose to do so.”
“Ought to” is the operative. Too many things have been declared off-limits already in our fascist nation, even though everyone should have the right to associate as they wish. They’ll put this under “age discrimination” before long.
This place seems to be in Pitcairn, but has a Monroeville address. It’s at the intersection of Rtes. 130 and 48. I’ve driven past, but haven’t eaten there. I don’t have kids, so it doesn’t really bother me that he doesn’t want young kids there. My parents never took us out to eat until we were about 10...and even then, it was McDonald’s or Big Boy. A big treat was getting to stop at Howard Johnson’s for some ice cream!
“there is no law that protects children from being denied service.”
Oh, call out the UN on the Rights of the Child!!!!
Get over it.
My children received many compliments on their good manners. Children under two, IMO, can be unpredictable. When my young children started fussing (even at a fast food restaurant), I’d leave with them. No one should have to listen to my kid fuss.
Not only do they insist on talking, but whoever they talk to is deaf. So, "Huh? What?" and the deaf usually shout instead of whisper. If an old couple try to sit near me, I'll move.
Oh, I have taken little kids to nursing homes to visit the inmates. They beg and cry for any little scrap of attention the child will give them. Just a few years before, I'll bet they were blackballing some young family in a gated club because they're "retired, don't want to do that anymore."
Hey, the world goes round and round.
Like I said, it should be the restaurant’s choice, but there are so many things private businesses have dictated to them, I was just wondering if there’s some regulation somewhere that the institution is actually violating.