Posted on 07/10/2011 5:40:26 AM PDT by harpu
Oops, but...VERY NICE!
Did you mean; I think that has "had to have" been altered...'?
She is Catherine, The Princess William, Duchess of Cambridge, Countess Strathearn, Lady Carrickfergus.
Her title is NOT Princess. She’s the DUCHESS of Cambridge. (Just like Fergie wasn’t Princess Sarah, she was the Duchess of York).
What are the rules for the title for the wife of a prince? Was Diana also a duchess rather than a princess? Was "Princess Diana" incorrect? It seems to me that was commonly used when referring to her.
I think they do that half-intentionally out of disdain for the rigid European caste system. Yeah. Yeah. I know. At the same time they're falling all over European royalty like a bunch of moviestars. People are not logical. And if it's all Hollywood anyway they don't have to be logical.
Oh yeah! Butt, you forgot to mention; ‘nice touche’!
Don't you get tired of all this silliness? One of the nicest things our ancestors did for us was to abolish hereditary titles.
Americans can never get titles right because we don’t have them here and we are unfamiliar with how they work.
But it’s like spelling. If you don’t know, look it up.
air-cooled beaver.
How embarrassing. Not her fault. As a woman I understand why she had a thong or no undies on. Been there done that. We women don’t want panty lines showing under our dresses, pants, etc. The wind got the best of her and it I’m sure she is completely shocked. I thinks it’s sad someone photographed it and put it out there for everyone to see.
When William becomes first in line to the throne (after his father, Prince Charles, presumably becomes King), Kate will become Princess Catherine.
Upon marriage, Diana became the Princess of Wales. From Wiki "Though Diana, Princess of Wales was commonly called Princess Diana after her marriage to Charles, Prince of Wales, it was officially incorrect, as Diana herself pointed out, because she was not a princess in her own right. Similarly Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, is neither Princess Camilla nor Duchess Camilla."
“Diana, Princess of Wales” or “The Princess of Wales” was the correct form
Good one! It also might help all of us remember her correct title.
I'm weird about grammar--get my teeth on edge at: "Everybody has a right to their opinion" and "Could you have dinner with my wife and I?"
But, it's kinda (sic) like music--or anything else--if you know the rules you know how to break 'em (sic again).
De Bussy was kicked out of the Paris Conservatory for breaking the rules of harmony etc. He was inventing new harmony etc. And Rachmaninov's harmony--breaking the rules--is gorgeous and innovative.
A few days ago, just for fun, I uttered: "Was someone calling I?" (You can just call me Claude-Sergei, thank you.)
So, if I refer to Princess Di as Princess Di, it's not that I don't know any better.
It's kinda like an Amercan referring to Her Majesty--I wouldn't do it, mind you!--as Cousin Lizzie. Maybe they just want to emphasize the close connection between the US and the UK.
See what I mean?
Good.
Now, would you explain it to me?
No sillier than your habit of referring to former political office holders by the title they may have had decades ago.
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Social-Etiquette-Good-2570/2010/3/Retaining-political-title.htm
...It is protocol that states that if someone earns a title because they were voted into office, they retain the protocol of address after they leave...
...Senators are Senators all their lives. Governors too. Members of the House of Representatives are Mr. and Ms. while they are in office and after they leave. Presidents are Mr. President when in office and Mr. Smith when they leave. Presidents do not keep their title after leaving office. All officials who have been voted in by election will be The Honorable for the rest of their lives...
Only in the US. And as I said, it’s silly
While I thought it was, that brings up other questions:
Why are some prince's wives (such as Diana) titled Princess and other princes' wives (such as Fergie) titled Duchess?
Does the territory of which one is a prince determine that?
Will the older of Charles' sons (sorry, I forget which one is older) become The Prince of Wales (and his wife The Princess of Wales) on the death of Prince Charles?
I don't agree that they're equally silly.
Well...on second thought...maybe you're right. They are both silly.
The first thing that comes to mind when I see these loooooooooooong, extraaaaaavigant titles is the looooooooooooong extraaaaaaaaaaaaavigant titles of the French nobility during the Bourbon regime. The contemporary French nobility is a tad more modest--at least in public--(and for good reason!!!). But in texts written before the (horrifying) French Revolution, the silliness of all this--and the folly--jumps right out at you! It's also annoying. And distracting. And a reminder of why the Revolution was so horrifying. And why it happened at all. And what's the good of all that? None that I can see.
...Senators are Senators all their lives."
Yes--and THEY SHOULDN'T BE!
That's part of the problem.
Ostrich Boy's got a damn good point.
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