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Gun-smuggling cartel figures possibly were paid FBI informants.
LA Times ^ | July 17, 2011 | Richard Serrano

Posted on 07/18/2011 6:42:35 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote

Congressional investigators probing the controversial "Fast and Furious" anti-gun-trafficking operation on the border with Mexico believe at least six Mexican drug cartel figures involved in gun smuggling also were paid FBI informants, officials said Saturday.

The investigators have asked the FBI and the Drug Enforcement Administration for details about the alleged informants, as well as why agents at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which ran the Fast and Furious operation, were not told about them.

The development raises further doubts about the now-shuttered program, which was created in November 2009 in an effort to track guns across the border and unravel the cartels' gun smuggling networks. The gun tracing largely failed, however, and hundreds of weapons purchased in U.S. shops later were found at crime scenes in Mexico.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; batf; castaway; castawayfbi; dea; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; murder; obama; treason
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Wow. Read the rest. Unreal.
1 posted on 07/18/2011 6:42:38 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: GlockThe Vote

Bump


2 posted on 07/18/2011 6:54:27 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

When are they going to call Holder to testify under oath? Has he done so already. I mean, he either has to spill the beans and tell the “truth”, or he goes to jail for “perjury”? Which is it?

When is this going to happen? - or has it already happened?


3 posted on 07/18/2011 6:55:06 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: GlockThe Vote

I wonder if this rumor has been floated so that the cartels will eliminate potential witnesses? In other words, put the word on the street that the gun runners were snitches and the cartel will take care of the problem. That way, no gun runners can be called to testify and the story gets covered up.

It is SOP for spy agencies to pick up one of the enemy’s agents and then let the word leak out that they turned the guy into a double agent. The enemy would then kill their own agent for us.

I never believe anything I see in the MSM. If they print the truth, it’s an accident.


4 posted on 07/18/2011 6:56:24 AM PDT by darth
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To: The Bronze Titan

I think they are just gathering enough ammo, no pun intended, to nail him to the cross so he can’t wiggle out of trying blend gunrunner and fast and furious.


5 posted on 07/18/2011 6:56:35 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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...which was created in November 2009 in an effort to track guns across the border and unravel the cartels' gun smuggling networks...

Well, I suppose we should be thankful the LA Times is covering this, but I think this sentence is giving Holder credit for something he doesn't deserve. I remember reading here that an e-mail surfaced showing the real reason was to have an excuse for more and stricter gun laws in the US.

6 posted on 07/18/2011 6:56:47 AM PDT by arkady_renko
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LA Times has been on this like White on Rice.


7 posted on 07/18/2011 6:58:20 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

BATFE allowed firearms to be sold to FBI informants with money from the Stimulus Plan.

Both agencies are under the DOJ......Eric Holder.


8 posted on 07/18/2011 7:02:24 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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So the BATFE was conducting a sting on undercover FBI agents, who were conducting a sting on gun dealers?

That's how I read it.

9 posted on 07/18/2011 7:15:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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This entire story makes me literally put the govt in a worse light than the cartels and mafia.


10 posted on 07/18/2011 7:21:34 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Bttt.

5.56mm

11 posted on 07/18/2011 7:23:05 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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How could the AFT be said to have pulling off the Fast and Furious scam, and NOT KNOW the background of the sewer slime they were controlling.

This stinks, but then anything ATF touches is crap. Proof once again; like attacts like.

12 posted on 07/18/2011 7:51:43 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (Quaeras de dubiis, legem bene discere si vis)
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It was the only way they could assure the guns would be paid for with U.S. taxpayer money...


13 posted on 07/18/2011 7:54:42 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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14 posted on 07/18/2011 7:58:37 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: Robert Drobot

This entire fiasco makes me so mad you have no idea.


15 posted on 07/18/2011 8:45:25 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: Robert Drobot

This entire fiasco makes me so mad you have no idea.


16 posted on 07/18/2011 8:45:25 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Read somewhere that, at one time, nearly half the KKK were paid FBI informants. Dues paid by the FBI’s informants were what kept the KKK going...

Probably the same situation here.


17 posted on 07/18/2011 8:51:54 AM PDT by Little Ray (Best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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This entire story makes me literally put the govt in a worse light than the cartels and mafia.

They aren't worse, they are exactly the same.

18 posted on 07/18/2011 9:07:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Thanks. I wasn’t aware of that.


19 posted on 07/18/2011 9:14:06 AM PDT by arkady_renko
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20 posted on 07/18/2011 9:17:08 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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