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Two Classics, One Car. A Collector Shows Off Her Lifelong Favorite (neat)
New York times ^ | July 7, 2011 | Margaret Dunning

Posted on 08/20/2011 12:44:30 PM PDT by rawhide

After six decades, Margaret Dunning, age 101, still breezes down the road in her creamy 740 Packard roadster.

http://video.nytimes.com/video/2011/07/08/automobiles/collectibles/100000000895665/two-classics-one-car.html

(Excerpt) Read more at video.nytimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: automotive; car; packard
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1 posted on 08/20/2011 12:44:40 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide
For the FReep Peeps on dial up:


2 posted on 08/20/2011 12:46:45 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: rawhide

What a cool car (and a cool owner (c; )!


3 posted on 08/20/2011 12:48:01 PM PDT by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: rawhide

Very Cool!


4 posted on 08/20/2011 12:48:55 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Carnival commie side show, started November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: rawhide

I want one.


5 posted on 08/20/2011 12:50:35 PM PDT by library user (I want my headstone to read: "He died while doing what he enjoyed most: breathing.")
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
For the FReep Peeps on dial up:

Bless you! Were all FReepers as considerate. (loaded up snappy, too!)

I hope to be driving at her age!! Heck, I hope to make it to that age!!!

6 posted on 08/20/2011 12:51:24 PM PDT by ozark hilljilly (Obama's Fault!!)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Link to a long article about this car and the driver: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/automobiles/packard-81-is-a-youngster-to-its-driver.html?_r=1


7 posted on 08/20/2011 12:53:42 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide
Ms. Dunning still changes the oil herself, but mostly relies on a small maintenance team that includes a 90-year-old friend. “His hands are just magic,” she said.
8 posted on 08/20/2011 12:59:20 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

That old broad is hard core. Those old Packards are manual everything and yet she can still muscle it around the roads. I liked that she puts a little towel on the running boards to get in. As a guy who has floor mats on top of the original floor mats in my classics, I appreciate that.

I think that car is somewhere in the $250K range for value.


9 posted on 08/20/2011 1:01:33 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: rawhide

A classic car and a classy lady!


10 posted on 08/20/2011 1:03:28 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm sticking with Herman. No more second terms!)
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To: rawhide
“His hands are just magic,” she said.

He's a pretty good mechanic too, I hear.

Badump...bump.

Thank you. Thank you. I'll be here all the week. Try the veal and don't forget to tip your waitress.

11 posted on 08/20/2011 1:03:34 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Deploy. Dominate. Disappear.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

We probably need a ping list for classics. I will be working on my 57 Bel Air this afternoon. Still a little rough, but getting there an inch at a time.

Once you get used to driving the old cars they aren’t bad at all. But there is a reason for those big steering wheels, when I got my car the previous owner had a dinky aftermarket wheel on there that was scary..


12 posted on 08/20/2011 1:07:24 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: rawhide

My Mom (age 93, who is currently in pretty bad shape, in hospice) has a 101 year old friend who routinely drives into San Francisco! Never mind the tolls, I wouldn’t drive into SF if there was any worldly way I could avoid it.

Ilsa. She is quite the pistola, major sparkplug, has indomitable spirit. Can’t hang up the phone with her without a smile on your face.


13 posted on 08/20/2011 1:07:50 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Both sides need to put aside the partisan bickering, & work out how much free stuff I get)
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To: rawhide

Love her answer to have “you lived here all your life?”. lol “Not yet!”


14 posted on 08/20/2011 1:09:03 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Prayers said for your mother. God bless!


15 posted on 08/20/2011 1:10:13 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: DaxtonBrown
But there is a reason for those big steering wheels - Armstrong steering.
16 posted on 08/20/2011 1:12:11 PM PDT by reg45
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

My grandfather died at 100. My great aunt at 104 just days shy of 105. Their aunt died at age 107.
They were living right up to the end.


17 posted on 08/20/2011 1:13:22 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: DaxtonBrown

There should be a old car ping.

I have a lot of old stuff. I had the family out in my 1969 Vista Cruiser today. It has drum brakes. You really need to pay attention with that one. The only worse car to drive is my 1969 Camaro that was ordered with manual drum brakes. You sometimes need to use two feet and pull up on the wheel to get enough pressure down to get that to stop. I doubt though that the old lady hot rods like I do.


18 posted on 08/20/2011 1:15:00 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: kalee

“They were living right up to the end.’

I hope they were living up to the end! ;)

I guess you meant, “They were living right... up to the end.”


19 posted on 08/20/2011 1:21:38 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

That is a stunning car.

Can you still get those tires?


20 posted on 08/20/2011 1:23:51 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog

Yes, there are a lot of places that offer “classic” whitewall tires.


21 posted on 08/20/2011 1:28:31 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

My 67 Camaro is up on blocks, will be back on the road hopefully in december. Both the Bel Air and Camaro have the drum brakes, but I think the Bel Air stops easier to tell the truth.


22 posted on 08/20/2011 1:35:29 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: rawhide

Thanks for the post.

The whole family enjoyed it.

Myself, I loved seeing the continued mental agility she still has at 101, when she answered: “Not Yet”, to the question: “Have you lived in Plymouth, Michigan all your life.”


23 posted on 08/20/2011 1:38:27 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Rennes Templar

No I meant they enjoyed themselves and lived life right up to the end and they were living right, too. (Christians and conservative) ;)

The great,great aunt was training Tennessee Walkers in her 90’s when she broke a bone and they told her “No More!” She then supervised from the sidelines.


24 posted on 08/20/2011 1:40:46 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: DaxtonBrown
"Once you get used to driving the old cars they aren’t bad at all.

Absolutely. True "motoring"at its finest, especially at the wheel of classic. My buddy let me keep his 1953 Mercedes 180 while he was on overseas assignment. The column mounted shift gate seemed to span 36," and the engine exhibited the neck snapping acceleration of an advancing fog bank, but she was a dream to drive. A one-car parade some days, as other Mercedes owners would flash their lights, wave, and honk as I drove by.
25 posted on 08/20/2011 1:42:46 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I hear you on the drum brakes. My dad recently bought a ‘66 Mustang with drum brakes and they really are a different animal from modern disk brakes. It’s a fun car to drive though in large part because the driving experience is so different. Slow heavy brakes, long hood, big steering wheel, primitive chassis and handling, and a hot V8.


26 posted on 08/20/2011 1:45:26 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: DaxtonBrown
will be working on my 57 Bel Air this afternoon

Too bad you don't live where I do. The Woodward Dream Cruise is going on today (last couple days and this weekend) which is approximately 10 miles worth of classic cars..........

Woodard Dream Cruise -live

Whoa, I just clicked on the video and it looks like it's pouring rain there now.......guess it's coming my way.

Anyway, the Dream Cruise is the biggest weekend of classic cars on parade that you could ever imagine.......

27 posted on 08/20/2011 1:46:50 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (FREE YOUR BREASTS! FREE YOUR MIND!)
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To: DaxtonBrown; Lazlo in PA; PowderMonkey; Hot Tabasco; martin_fierro
We probably need a ping list for classics.

 

According to what I understand to be the latest list of pinglists,

UPDATED MASTER List of FReeper PING LISTS; Vol. VIII - SPRING Edition!

there used to be an "automotive" pinglist managed by Sully777 but that person was banned during The Giulani Wars of  2007.  You can see his/her final posts here:

Posts by sully777

There's a "Motorcycle Hooligans" pinglist managed by Martin Fierro which is still active but I haven't seen a current, active pinglist for classic autos.

I would enjoy seeing more threads about classic cars and I feel that they're entirely appropriate for a conservative website, as they remind us all that we don't have to drive a battery-operated rollerskate.  Driving an older car can be viewed as a political statement....a rejection of the uncomfortable, unsafe, generic little toys that so often pass for cars these days and an embrace of an era where comfort, style, individuality, safety and raw power were the defining benchmarks of automobiles.

28 posted on 08/20/2011 2:04:31 PM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Yardstick; DaxtonBrown

I remember coming home from a show one time in the Camaro with manual drum brakes and a storm hit. I had to go through a decent size puddle and after that I had zero brakes. I drove for what seemed like a mile with my foot on the brakes and gas to heat the drums up enough to get them to dry out and work.


29 posted on 08/20/2011 2:05:54 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I remember coming home from a show one time in the Camaro with manual drum brakes and a storm hit. I had to go through a decent size puddle and after that I had zero brakes. I drove for what seemed like a mile with my foot on the brakes and gas to heat the drums up enough to get them to dry out and work.

I had a Camaro with the same set-up. It was a death trap, which is why I don’t have one like it now. A classic, but...


30 posted on 08/20/2011 3:04:54 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Yardstick
primitive chassis and handling

All real luxury cars and race cars are rear wheel drive. Ever stopped to wonder why? Because FWD sucks.

31 posted on 08/20/2011 3:09:38 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rawhide
In the terrible economy, you know it's bad when a Vayron owner uses a coin-operated car wash.


32 posted on 08/20/2011 3:11:03 PM PDT by Daffynition ("Don't just live your life, but witness it also.")
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

It’s gorgeous!


33 posted on 08/20/2011 3:25:50 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The Liberal Era is over.)
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To: central_va
All real luxury cars and race cars are rear wheel drive. Ever stopped to wonder why?

Because they don't drive in snow and ice....They're parked in the garages of the fair weather fairies during the winter months......LOL!

FWIW, I'll beat a Mustang Cobra from stoplight to stoplight on snow and ice every time with my front wheel drive honda..........

There's nothing funnier than watching a RWD muscle car in my rear view mirror doughnut on a stretch of ice from a stoplight or on a freeway........


34 posted on 08/20/2011 3:28:41 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (FREE YOUR BREASTS! FREE YOUR MIND!)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

What a picture! So beautiful. So classy. ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS. Thank you from this dial-up. You’re the best!


35 posted on 08/20/2011 3:56:42 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: Hot Tabasco

You must be WAY too young to remember traversing ice and snow in a 1959 Porsche convertible. Back then we knew how to DRIVE. Today, driving is a video game. Enjoy your Honda.


36 posted on 08/20/2011 4:00:21 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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I’m putting discs on my 67 Camaro.
The drums are just too unpredictable.

I’ve spent a ton of time trying to make them consistent, but not successful.


37 posted on 08/20/2011 4:04:21 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Clearly, there’s almost no one left alive who can remember it, but, yes, cars used to have character, long, long ago.


38 posted on 08/20/2011 4:17:12 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: famousdayandyear
You must be WAY too young to remember traversing ice and snow in a 1959 Porsche convertible

Actually I'm not, I was just a little too young to afford one. Had an uncle that wrecked his coming home from a day of skiing in Harbor Springs (northern Michigan) Turns out it wasn't so good on the ice and snow either.

With that being said, what's your point?

And yes, I do enjoy my small front wheel drive in the winter........

39 posted on 08/20/2011 4:30:50 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (FREE YOUR BREASTS! FREE YOUR MIND!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Just that today it seems to me ‘drivers’ are more interested in gadgets, mysterious electronic devices, getting ahead of the other fellow. Used to be, there was DRIVING—an art, a mutual courtesy on the road, an etiquette, an end in itself. I’m old that’s all—and I miss how it ‘used to be’. Guess that’s my point. (PS: my 356 was used, a little beat up, no heat, but it was all I had for shopping, getting baby to doctor, etc. in all kinds of weather. Don’t consider myself a —what did you write—a fairie?) Take care.


40 posted on 08/20/2011 4:39:15 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: famousdayandyear
I miss how it ‘used to be’.

I do too .....

41 posted on 08/20/2011 4:56:00 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (FREE YOUR BREASTS! FREE YOUR MIND!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Am so glad you miss things, too. Pax et bonum


42 posted on 08/20/2011 4:58:39 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: Hot Tabasco

Here is a funny thing - when I go out to plow in the winter, the ditches are full of ... audis.

Operator, head space, and timing.


43 posted on 08/20/2011 5:04:58 PM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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To: PowderMonkey
...the engine exhibited the neck snapping acceleration of an advancing fog bank...

LOL, beyooteefull, juuuust beyoooteefull...

44 posted on 08/20/2011 6:06:52 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

As a youngster in the 50s.....my dad had a Packard Caribbean Coupe....gawd..I wish he’d held onto it..the hood ornamnent is over $300 now...


45 posted on 08/20/2011 6:12:34 PM PDT by ken5050 (Should Christie RUN in 2012? NO!!! But he should WALK 3 miles every day.)
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To: ken5050
A lot of people don't know this, including some current owners I bump into, but the Packard Caribbean had reversible front seats. One side is leather and the other is cloth. Those cars are a very high quality cars for their day. I can't believe how fast they went down hill into the Packabaker era.


46 posted on 08/20/2011 6:23:49 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: yarddog

“Can you still get those tires?”

Whitewall Cancy Store.


47 posted on 08/20/2011 6:29:42 PM PDT by dalereed (uity wise!)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Thanks for the great pic..

I'm positive ours had the big Packard hood ornament..sort of a "Winged Victory" IIRC.

My dad worked for Packard after the war, then Packard merged with Studebaker..I remember him bringing home the Silver and Golden Hawks, which I always thought were beautiful cars, far superior to anything else being made in the USA. Raymond Loewey was a design genius. And or course, later on, Studebaker's last gasp..the Avanti. I drove one the first day I got my learner's permit..

48 posted on 08/20/2011 6:32:24 PM PDT by ken5050 (Should Christie RUN in 2012? NO!!! But he should WALK 3 miles every day.)
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To: nascarnation

[The drums are just too unpredictable.]

Yeah, one drum will grab and pull. Or they will heat fade, or get slick, or whatever.


49 posted on 08/20/2011 7:55:10 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: ken5050
Geez. A Hawk. Studebaker really made some high performance stuff. Hawks are some of the best sports cars of the day. And an Avanti. Your old man had taste. If you dig deep, the Avanti is the car that sank Studebaker. They put so much money into the development of the car, they couldn't stay alive.

I have a Studebaker in my barn with all the other old iron. A Gravely L.

Unlike this one, mine is all original. The mower attachment should be red.

50 posted on 08/20/2011 9:03:12 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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