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Man Sues Ex-Fiance for $53K Engagement Ring
KMJ Radio 580 ^ | 8-24-11 | KMJ News

Posted on 08/24/2011 12:38:58 PM PDT by Enterprise

"Fresno businessman James Makalian's lawsuit claims he's a victim of fraud and deceit after his ex-fiancee Nichole Grazioli (pictured above) broke up with him and then kept her $53,000 engagement ring and Hummer SUV that he bought for her."

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TOPICS: Local News; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: emotional; hummer; money; ring
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To: Enterprise

An engagement is an unwritten contract. It can be violated by either party in many ways. If the man had a valid reason for breaking the engagement, like the woman cheated on him, or something else that might be unforgivable, then I would think the man might have a case for getting the ring back, but he’d probably have a fight on his hands, if it wasn’t a mutual decision.


41 posted on 08/24/2011 1:17:51 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

I’m sure he would agree with you that he has a fight on his hands. That’s why he got a lawyer.


42 posted on 08/24/2011 1:22:00 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: shotdog

The dress is bad enough. What’s up with that hair?


43 posted on 08/24/2011 1:23:55 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

The guy said that the plan was to buy the house, fix it up and resell it for twice what he paid. Then he would repay Mom with interest, but he housing market tanked and his plans collapsed.

I can believe him, where he went wrong was with the new wife. Instead of dumping the house and getting out with what he could salvage, he just kept getting in deeper.


44 posted on 08/24/2011 1:23:55 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva
The solution would be to give every bride to be a cigar band.

This b**** is a perfect example of "you don't know someone until......"

The problem with the verbal agreement is it's one way...So what's her part of the agreement....Nevermind....

45 posted on 08/24/2011 1:27:02 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Arm_Bears

“Golf ball . . . garden hose . . .”

Chrome. . . . Trailer hitch. . .


46 posted on 08/24/2011 1:31:03 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Enterprise

Again, a bland, neutral opinion, but might it be a thought trying to escape? sd


47 posted on 08/24/2011 1:33:42 PM PDT by shotdog (I love my country. It's our government I'm afraid of.)
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To: Sacajaweau

The solution is to not get engaged to someone that you don’t know VERY well.


48 posted on 08/24/2011 1:41:30 PM PDT by Eva
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To: GeronL

It’s traditional to give the engagement ring during the proposal, and the wedding ring during the wedding. I don’t know of anyone who ever did it the other way around.


49 posted on 08/24/2011 1:53:21 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: shotdog

she looks like a “guidette”


50 posted on 08/24/2011 1:54:50 PM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: Enterprise; Responsibility2nd
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Do NOT Laugh at Zeppy!

51 posted on 08/24/2011 2:01:38 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Feel the power of the greatest rock band of all time--now a crack legal team. On ABC this fall!)
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To: svcw

Not sure if it’s an actual law, but that’s been common etiquette forever. If she dumped him, he gets the ring.


52 posted on 08/24/2011 2:02:26 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("I know that God's tomorrow will be better than today!" A. H. Ackley)
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To: Enterprise
Business Law 101 - An engagement ring is not a gift. It is given in anticipation of completing a promise. In the absence of completion, the ring reverts to the party that brought the ring to the party. The SUV was a gift and is hers to do with as she pleases.

As for, “She says her client is suffering because he doesn’t know if she loved him or his money. “ Dude, you gave her a 100k worth of stuff up front and she still stepped out on you? You really need a judge to sort that out? Really? Your actual suffering is more likely related to a failure to dose up on antibiotics.
53 posted on 08/24/2011 2:36:17 PM PDT by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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To: windcliff

ping


54 posted on 08/24/2011 2:41:19 PM PDT by stylecouncilor (Some minds are like soup in a poor restaurant...better left unstirred.-PG Wodehouse)
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To: T. Jefferson

He needs to sue his optometrist.


55 posted on 08/24/2011 3:10:15 PM PDT by T. Jefferson (Batton down the hatches, full speed in reverse)
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To: Perdogg

You’ve got me there. What is a “guidette?” I’m guessing I’ve outrun the significance of the term. sd


56 posted on 08/24/2011 3:15:01 PM PDT by shotdog (I love my country. It's our government I'm afraid of.)
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To: Lazamataz
Not good enough for all that.

But I'd still hit it.

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I'll reserve judgment on the “not good enough” till we see a picture of HIM. Good enough is kind of a relative thing.

With you on the rest though

57 posted on 08/24/2011 4:12:27 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Enterprise

“...the man can still get the property back because they were given in anticipation of marriage.”

That’s my understanding, and I think it is pretty well established. Who on earth would want to decide who REALLY dumped who?

And don’t forget, often people give family heirlooms for engagement rings, so it is not just the value of the ring itself.

But, my guess is she can probably keep the car.


58 posted on 08/24/2011 4:57:24 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: GeronL

Engagement rings are given as part of a contract to marry. No marry, man gets ring back...Wisdom from Judge Judy on many cases....Its not just a gift its a contract...


59 posted on 08/24/2011 6:23:59 PM PDT by goat granny
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Has society deteriorated to such extanct that 10 y/o's in "lounger'e" is acceptable norms of society? And there's curiosity - not alarm - where the pedephiles come from.

I believe that Ann Landers set the matter straight already 35 years ago: if the groom-in-training breaks off an engagement (his fiance' keeps - as consolation prize - any engagement gift); if the bride-to-have-been breaks a marriage engagement (the suitors's intrinsic value is deemed worth less than the engagement present; its in the engeaged-fiance's interest to return whatever engagement present was presented).

I believe the issue stems from financial repercussions there may be of proto-groom leaves his fiance' standing at the alter; who pays for what in the marriage transaction?

60 posted on 08/24/2011 9:33:50 PM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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