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Donít Fear Islamic Law in America (NY Slimes Mega-Barf)
NY Times ^ | Sept. 2, 2011 | ELIYAHU STERN

Posted on 09/03/2011 1:28:47 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

MORE than a dozen American states are considering outlawing aspects of Shariah law. Some of these efforts would curtail Muslims from settling disputes over dietary laws and marriage through religious arbitration, while others would go even further in stigmatizing Islamic life: a bill recently passed by the Tennessee General Assembly equates Shariah with a set of rules that promote “the destruction of the national existence of the United States.”

Supporters of these bills contend that such measures are needed to protect the country against homegrown terrorism and safeguard its Judeo-Christian values. The Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich has said that “Shariah is a mortal threat to the survival of freedom in the United States and in the world as we know it.”

This is exactly wrong. The crusade against Shariah undermines American democracy, ignores our country’s successful history of religious tolerance and assimilation, and creates a dangerous divide between America and its fastest-growing religious minority.

The suggestion that Shariah threatens American security is disturbingly reminiscent of the accusation, in 19th-century Europe, that Jewish religious law was seditious. In 1807, Napoleon convened an assembly of rabbinic authorities to address the question of whether Jewish law prevented Jews from being loyal citizens of the republic. (They said that it did not.)

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: islam; islamic; islamiclaw; moslem; muslim; nyslimes; sharia; shariah; sharialaw

1 posted on 09/03/2011 1:28:51 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Aren’t these liberals the first to cry about church and state. This scum would betray this country at the drop of a hat.


2 posted on 09/03/2011 1:32:03 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative
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To: Free ThinkerNY

We have our own laws. Live under our laws or leave.


3 posted on 09/03/2011 1:32:22 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

F*** shariah law !


4 posted on 09/03/2011 1:33:57 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I fail to understand,How this vermin brings up the VERY EVIL that will try to poison our way of life,Then gets away with it?


5 posted on 09/03/2011 1:34:49 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Carnival commie side show, started November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
NYT-types are such duds. Of course shariah law is a danger to the United States. It's a danger to every country on Earth. One of its principle characteristics is that IT MAY NOT BE CHANGED.

Obviously law has to be changed from time to time simply to deal with new technologies, or previously unforeseen conditions ~ yet, just before the Turks conquered all the Arabic and other Moslems it was decided to CLOSE THE BOOK.

This problem creates eternal strife ~ and it is only through great difficulty that a modern state can survive in the Islamic orbit ~ there are constant upheavals among the populations in such places simply because their legislature, or king's majlis, or other authority changes a law ~ e.g. to drive on the right and use electric stop lights.

No modern person thinks such things are worthy of revolution, but Moslems do.

The only way to deal with shariah law is to BAN IT and severely punish those who advocate its use.

6 posted on 09/03/2011 1:36:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Winstons Julia

“marriage through religious arbitration”

Does that include the 14-year old girls and virgin inspections? How about the requirement for multiple witnesses to a rape? Or beheading for infidelity? I hardly think that this is comparable to Jewish/Catholic “laws”, where if you don’t like it - you can just leave the church.

That newspaper wouldn’t be of good enough quality to be used as Bin Laden’s toilet paper - if, indeed, he had actually ever used toilet paper.


7 posted on 09/03/2011 1:39:36 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The NYT can't wait to be renamed The New Mecca Times—of course with so many homosexuals on the paper's payroll there will be considerable “downsizing” once that happens.

Giving a whole new paradigm to the term, “heads will role.”

8 posted on 09/03/2011 1:40:19 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("11/4/2008: The day America elected a pyromaniac in the middle of a fire storm.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Same way German Jews felt about the Nazis in the late 1920's-early 1930's. We saw how well that worked out. Tolerance, when it is tolerance of alien ideology, is not necessarily a virtue.
9 posted on 09/03/2011 1:40:39 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: The Antiyuppie

Get ready for the polygamy as a religious freedom argument.

It’s happening in Europe.


10 posted on 09/03/2011 1:42:12 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: Happy Rain

given the author’s last name, his head will be one of the first to roll.


11 posted on 09/03/2011 1:43:24 PM PDT by OldCorps
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To: Free ThinkerNY
is disturbingly reminiscent of the accusation, in 19th-century Europe, that Jewish religious law was seditious

that is an invalid moral equivalence. The ultimate goal of islam is world domination. Judaism does not have that as its goal.

12 posted on 09/03/2011 1:52:10 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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>> The crusade against Shariah undermines American democracy,

Stern, you asshole, Christians responded to the crusades. Now go off to Syria where you belong you ignorant fool.


13 posted on 09/03/2011 1:52:34 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been Redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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To: Happy Rain

Just get the NYT staff to “convert” and they can take turns tossing each other out the windows!


14 posted on 09/03/2011 1:54:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Free ThinkerNY

With Jews like this guy, the Hebrew religion is headed for extinction!


15 posted on 09/03/2011 1:57:03 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

TWANLOC at work.


16 posted on 09/03/2011 1:57:19 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; All
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"Every 'moderate' Muslim is a potential terrorist. The belief in Islam is like a tank of gasoline. It looks innocuous, until it meets the fire. For a 'moderate' Muslim to become a murderous jihadist, all it takes is a spark of faith.

It is time to put an end to the charade of “moderate Islam.” There is no such thing as moderate Muslim. Muslims are either jihadists or dormant jihadists – moderate, they are not."

Ali Sini

Ali Sini is head of Faith Freedom International. FFI is a grassroots worldwide movement of ex-Muslims and all those who are concerned about the rise of the Islamic threat.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/

http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/index.php?sid=861cecf699f5b0faff20b13df6396817

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Be sure to read (at the site) Anatomy Of The Attack and the moving essay,’That Day’ by Steve Golding, a New Yorker who lived through it.

17 posted on 09/03/2011 2:03:19 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So when we have Sharia no-go zones, will there be a Planned Parenthood “clinic” in it?


18 posted on 09/03/2011 2:05:42 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: CORedneck
I will up you on that and Piss on mohamhead and all of the mosques in the USA. I am not on to bow down to anyone especially the muslimes...
19 posted on 09/03/2011 2:09:43 PM PDT by SledgeCS (If this is an example of a transparent government, I would hate to see what a secret one is.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; All

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Chris Christie slams fearmongering over Sharia law

Aug 4, 2011

New Jersey Republican Gov. Chris Christie defended his decision to nominate a Muslim judge to the state Superior Court against conservative critics who warned that the new judge will implement Sharia law. The notoriously blunt-spoken Christie calling their fears “crap” and “crazy.”

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/chris-christie-slams-fearmongering-over-sharia-law-210648303.html

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20 posted on 09/03/2011 2:10:20 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
That is a very strange argument indeed. It helps to skim the article and summon up vague feelings of moral righteousness, which is precisely what his liberal audience will now proceed to do, rather than actually to read the thing and think about what the author is saying. In fact, the author is arguing that we should not make laws restricting the application of Shari'a in the United States in the 21st century because Jews were discriminated against in France and Germany in the 19th century, as pure a form of non sequitur as it is possible to imagine. He then proceeds to cite neither the proposed legislation itself nor the objectionable aspects of Shari'a at which it is aimed. Once established, a bleary moral equivalency will lead us to the erroneous conclusion that it's all the same thing.

Well, it isn't. There was no well-funded social movement to extend rabbinical law to universal application throughout the world, for one thing, as there is for Shari'a. For another, the legislation is not aimed at preserving Judeo-Christian anything, but at preventing the displacement of secular law that permits freedom of religious expression for all faiths. And third, the notion that such laws will discourage immigration of Muslims is entirely beside the point, the point being that anyone coming to this country must agree to abide by its laws, period, and if anything other is preferable, they shouldn't come here.

To be more blunt, we should not be constrained from protecting our legal system by fear of offending the tender sensibilities of Muslim, Jew, Christian, Zoroastrian, atheist, or devout follower of the Great Cosmic Muffin. If that serves to remind the good Professor of other oppressions to other people in other times, it's his problem, not ours.

21 posted on 09/03/2011 2:18:37 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Winstons Julia
Stuck.

Email Urges Boycott of USPS 'Muslim Stamp'

22 posted on 09/03/2011 2:23:25 PM PDT by Daffynition ("Don't just live your life, but witness it also.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Feeding the aligator, hoping he’l eat us last. Just great.


23 posted on 09/03/2011 2:43:52 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

NYT will be the first (and the loudest) to scream, “UNFAIR!” when the islamists tell them that they can’t support homos and abortionists. You have to wear blinders to be a liberal.


24 posted on 09/03/2011 3:09:47 PM PDT by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Just wait until WalMart and other stores are made to hide or cover pork products and alcohol beverages. Then too, any Kosher foods as well all in the name of Muslim sensitivity.


25 posted on 09/03/2011 4:12:29 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach government employees how to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

CNN Muslim in America show just finished with Soledid Obrien, BARF!!!

My question is: If being Islam or Muslim is so liberating and empowering for both male and females, why are they fleeing their own so-called great countries to come to America?

Are Muslims in America assimilating and becoming American, NO they are not. Much like the new generation of Mexicans, they are NOT either.

Wake up America, it’s way past time you pull your head out!


26 posted on 09/04/2011 6:11:12 PM PDT by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: TheDailyChange

After this genius said
“A recent Pew Research Center poll found that Muslim Americans exhibit the highest level of integration among major American religious groups, expressing greater degrees of tolerance toward people of other faiths than do Protestants, Catholics or Jews.”
We know that he is totally clueless. How can he use a biased poll that totally ignores reality to back up the rest of his mindless analysis.
Given that every month we hear about those integrated American Muslims committing terrorist acts either here or in far away places such as Somalia. That is all we need to know to see that this poll is totally rubbish!


27 posted on 09/04/2011 7:12:49 PM PDT by cassandra2010
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To: cassandra2010

Yes, and let’s not forget about this peace loving Muslim Professional Muzzammil Hassan.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,493645,00.html

Mr. Muzzammil made this statement regarding his so-called Bridges TV station.

“Every day on television we are barraged by stories of a ‘Muslim extremist, militant, terrorist, or insurgent,’” Hassan said in the 2004 release. “But the stories that are missing are the countless stories of Muslim tolerance, progress, diversity, service and excellence that Bridges TV hopes to tell.”


28 posted on 09/04/2011 7:38:49 PM PDT by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

29 posted on 09/05/2011 6:27:24 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And how exactly how do the libs(pro-abortion, homosexuality, feminism, pornography, alcohol, secularism, etc.) who run the NY Slimes expect to live under the Sharia law they’re being apologists for?


30 posted on 09/05/2011 8:46:01 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Free ThinkerNY
OK, you liberal Jews go first, and we goyim will watch as a test case.

Wait -- we don't have to.

Just look at Israel.

Cheers!

31 posted on 09/09/2011 10:33:51 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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