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FLEET TO ‘ELIMINATE’ ATTACKING SUBMARINE; GREER CREW THINK THEIR BOMBS SANK U-BOAT (9/6/41)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library
| 9/6/41
| Frank L. Kluckhohn, C. Brooks Peters, Daniel T. Brigham, Cyrus L. Sulzberger, Eugene Petroff
Posted on 09/06/2011 5:06:12 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: milhist; realtime; worldwarii
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
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posted on
09/06/2011 5:07:15 AM PDT
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Gordon W. Prange, At Dawn We Slept
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posted on
09/06/2011 5:07:53 AM PDT
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Winston S. Churchill, The Grand Alliance
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posted on
09/06/2011 5:09:13 AM PDT
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Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Jimmy Dorsey and Co. are on a roll, holding the three top spots this week. Our new #10 is noteworthy in that the youtube music video it comes on has an integrated cast. Thats got to be unusual for 1941. Finally, I discovered to my horror that I have been posting the wrong version of Booglie Wooglie Piggy. It should be the Glenn Miller I changed to not Kay Kyser. I apologize for this crime against history.
Billboard Top Ten for the Week of September 6, 1941
#1 Green Eyes - Jimmy Dorsey, with Bob Eberly and Helen OConnell
#2 Yours Jimmy Dorsey, with Bob Eberly
#3 - Maria Elena - Jimmy Dorsey, with Bob Eberly
#4 - You and I Glenn Miller, with Ray Eberly
#5 - Daddy - Sammy Kaye, with the Kaye Choir
#6 - Yes Indeed! - Tommy Dorsey, with Jo Stafford and Sy Oliver
#7 - Piano Concerto in B Flat (Tonight we Love) - Freddy Martin, with Jack Fina
#8 - The Booglie Wooglie Piggy - Glenn Miller, with Tex Beneke and the Modernaires
#9 - Blue Champagne Jimmy Dorsey, with Bob Eberly
#10 - Let Me Off Uptown - Gene Krupa, with Anita ODay and Roy Eldridge
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posted on
09/06/2011 5:10:33 AM PDT
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Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; henkster; ...
Navy Ships in Hunt 2
British Airmen Helped Repel Attack, Greers Officers Say 3
Presidents Envoy Meets Soviet Premier (murky but important photo) 3
Pound Soviet City 4-5
The International Situation 4
Russian Thrusts in Center Gaining 5-7
Nazis Allies Warned Not to Make Peace 7
Soviet Marshal Holds Foe Misled by War Experience with France * 7
Finns Find Viborg Blasted to Ruins (by Svend Carstensen) ** 7-8
Russian Bombers Hit Berlin Again 8
France Protests U.S. Press Charge (by Lansing Warren) 8-9
Italian Cruiser Torpodoed; Big Liner, 3 other Ships Hit (by David Anderson) 9-10
Huge Nazi Spending in Argentina Cited in New Report to Congress 11
Russian Campaign-II (by Hanson W. Baldwin) 12
Texts of the Days War Communiques 13
Outlaw Markets Persist in France 13
* This is the first story I have seen submitted by a correspondent With the Russian Army.
** This one is datelined Somewhere in Finnish Karelia. The coverage is a little closer to the front today.
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posted on
09/06/2011 5:13:33 AM PDT
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Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1941/sep41/f06sep41.htm
Nazis require Jews to wear “Star of David”
Saturday, September 6, 1941 www.onwar.com
In Germany... Heydrich, head of German Security Services and the Security Police orders that all Jewish persons over the age of six are to wear a yellow badge, “Star of David” to distinguish them as Jews.
In Japan... Prime Minister Konoye bows to military pressure to agree to prepare for war by mid-October, if no agreement is reached with the Americans over the oil-embargo. The American Ambassador Grew cautions the United States that if Konoye’s conciliatory proposals are not considered, the Japanese Prime Minister could well be replaced by a Military Dictatorship.
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posted on
09/06/2011 5:18:20 AM PDT
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.etherington/month/thismonth/06.htm
September 6th, 1941
UNITED KINGDOM: Destroyer HMS Tuscan laid down.
Light cruiser HMS Argonaut launched. (Dave Shirlaw)
FRANCE: Paris: A German non-commissioned officer, Hoffman, is shot in the Gare de l’Est.
GERMANY: Heydrich, head of the SD, orders all Jews, over the age of 6, to wear a distinctive yellow Star of David badge. This measure is only an example of the increasing barbarity shown to the Jews and other groups. Recently experiments at Auschwitz concentration camp have started in an attempt to find the most efficient method of exterminating large groups of people. Among other methods, the gas Cyclon-B will be tested. This information needs to be gathered before the methodic Germans will begin full-scale exterminations in early 1942.
U-438 launched. (Dave Shirlaw)
U.S.S.R.: The Soviets recapture Yelna, near Smolensk, on the Moscow front.
LITHUANIA: The Nazis establish a “large” and a “small” ghetto at Vilna.
JAPAN: Prince Konoye as Prime Minister, bends under military pressure. An Imperial Conference decides that war preparations should be complete by the middle of October. And further that if agreement is not reached by then with the US the decision to go to war should be taken. Further conciliatory proposals to the US are not taken seriously.
U.S. Ambassador Joseph Grew meets with Japanese Prime Minister Prince Konoye. Prince Konoye states that Japan subscribes to the four principles of President Roosevelt and presents proposals for a basis of discussion. Grew goes on to say that, “The Prime Minister hopes that as a result of the commitments which the Japanese Government is prepared to assume . . . a rational basis has been established for a meeting between the President and himself.” (Jack McKillop)
Tokyo: The government decides that preparations for war should be completed in six weeks.
CANADA:
Minesweeper HMCS Granby launched.
Corvette HMCS Brantford launched.
Corvette HMCS Morden commissioned.
Minesweeper HMCS Burlington commissioned. (Dave Shirlaw)
U.S.A.: Washington, the Japanese Ambassador Nomura hands Secretary of State Cordell Hull a draft proposal outlining what the U.S. and Japan will do to establish peace in the Pacific. Two of the items that the Japanese purpose to undertake are (1) that Japan will not make any military advancement from French Indo-China against any of its adjoining areas, and likewise will not, without any justifiable reason, resort to military action against any regions lying south of Japan and (2) that Japan will endeavor to bring about the rehabilitation of general and normal relationship between Japan and China, upon the realization of which Japan is ready to withdraw its armed forces from China as soon as possible in accordance with the agreements between Japan and China. (Jack McKillop)
Light cruiser USS Astoria laid down.
Anti-aircraft cruisers USS Atlanta and San Juan launched.
Light cruiser USS Cleveland launched. (Dave Shirlaw)
ATLANTIC OCEAN:
U-141 sank SS King Erik.
U-95 sank SS Trinidad. (Dave Shirlaw)
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posted on
09/06/2011 5:20:08 AM PDT
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Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
On the cusp of WW2 the railroad unions were threatening to strike. Wow, that tells you a lot about unions even in those days.
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posted on
09/06/2011 6:19:57 AM PDT
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GeronL
(The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Rains once more show signs of setting in persistently with their accompanying slowing-down effect on the invaders communications, and the first faint symptoms of the cold that is coming already are insinuating themselves into the fog-ridden Leningrad airWow, they just dont write like that anymore in the Times.
To: Homer_J_Simpson
couple goodies today.
the interview with timoshenko is fascinating and has the ring of total truth, as opposed to most of the war communiques
news to me that russia bombed berlin. i thought only the brits and US did that
if you read carefully, everyone has figured out the germans are in trouble in russia. red army not going to fold, resistance stiffinening, germans running out of troops and materials as supply lines become unmanageable.
and as Ned Stark says: winter is coming.
To: beebuster2000
news to me that russia bombed berlin. i thought only the brits and US did thatI'm a little surprised about that, also. If any of these raids really occurred I'm guessing they were merely nuisance raids.
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posted on
09/06/2011 7:23:26 AM PDT
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Larry381
(If in doubt, shoot it in the head and drop it in the ocean!)
To: beebuster2000
Strange that there is very little legitimate reporting of the fighting east of the Dnieper river where in a few days the Germans will win one of their greatest victories in Russia and arguably one of the greatest in history.
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posted on
09/06/2011 10:02:22 AM PDT
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Larry381
(If in doubt, shoot it in the head and drop it in the ocean!)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
September 6, 1941
- "The Vilna Ghetto is created with a population of 40,000 Jews.
- The Germans also establish a working ghetto at Vilna, Lithuania.
- German and Lithuanian units kill tens of thousands of Jews in the nearby Ponary woods."
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posted on
09/06/2011 2:46:23 PM PDT
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BroJoeK
(a little historical perspective....)
To: Larry381
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posted on
09/06/2011 4:38:17 PM PDT
by
Rebelbase
(Disgusted with the establishment GOP and their enablers.)
To: Rebelbase
Which victory is that?The Germans had sent some of their Panzer and Motorized divisions belonging to Army Group Center toward the south where they were able to get behind five Soviet armies commanded by Marshall Budennyy and surround them. They captured Kiev, including 665,000 prisoners causing the Russians nearly a million casualties. The numerical scale of the battle was unprecedented in history.This battle was to cost Stalin the Ukraine, open up the road to the Crimea and the Donets basin.
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posted on
09/06/2011 5:29:32 PM PDT
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Larry381
(If in doubt, shoot it in the head and drop it in the ocean!)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
- "I know that the 108th Tank Division has fallen into encirclement and has lost many tanks and crews. This could have occurred only because of you bad management. It is not permissible to launch a division into the attack alone, neither covering its flanks nor protecting it with aviation. If aviation could not fly due to bad weather conditions, you should have postponed the tank division attack until the moment the weather improved and aviation was capable of supporting the tank division. Henceforth, I oblige you to not tolerate such rash actions. I also oblige you to find means to rescue the tankists and, in so far as possible, the tanks from encirclement. Also consider that the reference to pilots in bad weather is not always correct. Shturmoviki [assault aircraft] can fly even during bad weather, if the visibility is not less than 100-150 meters. Tell Comrade Petrov that I oblige him to refer to bad weather less and that it is a little better to employ Shturmovki for flights in bad weather." - Joseph Stalin
- "The initial operational successes against enemy forces between the Army Group South's and Centre's adjoining flanks and additional successes in encircling enemy forces in the Leningrad region, have created the prerequisites for conducting a decisive operation against Army Group Timoshenko, which is conducting unsuccessful offensive operations on Army Group Centre's front. It must be destroyed decisively before the onset of winter within the limited time indicated in existing orders...To this end we must concentrate all of the efforts of ground and air forces earmarked for the operation, including those that can be freed up from the flanks and transferred in timely fashion." - Adolf Hitler, Führer Directive No. 35
- Hitler orders Leeb to encircle and starve Leningrad rather than take it by a frontal assault.
To: Larry381
It was Guderian’s Panzergruppe 2.
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posted on
09/06/2011 8:57:35 PM PDT
by
PzLdr
("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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