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White House Science Czar Says He Would Use ‘Free Market’ to ‘De-Develop the United States’
CNS News ^ | September 16, 2010 | Nicholas Ballasy

Posted on 09/19/2011 9:45:16 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear

In a video interview this week, White House Office of Science and Technology Director John P. Holdren told CNSNews.com that he would use the “free market economy” to implement the “massive campaign” he advocated along with Population Bomb author Paul Ehrlich to “de-develop the United States.”

In his role as President Barack Obama’s top science and technology adviser, Holdren deals with issues ranging from global warming to health care.

“A massive campaign must be launched to restore a high-quality environment in North America and to de-develop the United States,” Holdren wrote along with Paul and Anne H. Ehrlich in the “recommendations” concluding their 1973 book Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; Reference; Society
KEYWORDS: carbontax; climatechange; communism; czar; czars; dedevelop; economy; globalwarming; holdren; insanity; johnholdren; obama; paulehrlich; populationbomb
This guy is incredibly scary. Sorry if this has been posted before. I didn't see it in the search.
1 posted on 09/19/2011 9:45:24 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Hell in a handbasket.


2 posted on 09/19/2011 9:46:58 AM PDT by DelanoSAlways (The Obamas: Truly Something Awful)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Can you imagine, just try to imagine the quantity and volume of insanity that the next president will have to undo to get this country back on a patriotic road . . .

We're still suffering greatly from the aftermath of the Clintooon years, and now we'll have to basically upturn our society to repair the damage from the two grifters living in our White House. My God, we're in trouble.

3 posted on 09/19/2011 9:49:07 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Not even Peanuthead Carter was this bad.


4 posted on 09/19/2011 9:50:24 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

OK, Mr. Holdren, send me a picture of your log cabin sans electric service, your bicycle you use for your primary mode of transportation, provide proof you have no cell phone, do not fly in any air craft, have no investments in any industrial companies, and then we can talk.


5 posted on 09/19/2011 9:51:21 AM PDT by mtrott
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Thanks or posting this. I think. We are going to have to de-develop everything this bunch of America haters has done.


6 posted on 09/19/2011 9:53:18 AM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

It is amazing how the enemies of the United States and our civilization can speak so openly now of their goals, whether they be Islamic Jihadis in our midst, Marxists or proto-Nazis.

And even worse, many of these people are in our Government or maintained by the Government.

simply shocking.


7 posted on 09/19/2011 9:54:06 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Many of the practices inadequately supporting today’s population of 5.5 billion people are unsustainable

All 5.5 billion people can be stood up with a square yard of space in the Grand Canyon. Give everyone a house with maybe 4 or 5 to the house, and you couldn't fill up Texas.

To recycle Erlich is incredibly scary since the fool was shown to be an idiot back 20 or 30 years ago.

Is there no end to the radical communists in this illegal administration?

8 posted on 09/19/2011 9:54:24 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: mtrott
The only way a free market would decide to "de-develop" the U.S. would be after a massive (think cataclysmic scale) brain washing campaign. .... I guess you couldn't really call it a “free” market after that, could you?
9 posted on 09/19/2011 9:54:58 AM PDT by Pecos (Constitutionalist. Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
A massive campaign must be launched to restore a high-quality environment in North America and to de-develop the United States,” Holdren wrote

They usually aren't this open with their agenda. But in a nutshell, this is why the left fights domestic energy development, because expensive energy is their lever towards "de-development" - if commutes by car become unaffordable, people will have to move back into the cities, and the exurbs can then be bulldozed.

So to all of the liberals that have moved out into the suburbs from the city, take note - your political fellow-travellers on the far left want to send you right back from where you came.

10 posted on 09/19/2011 9:57:36 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

If you tried to de-develop a neighboring country, it would be called a war. In this case, the illegal czar is at war with us. Where is the Justice Department... oh, wait... never mind.


11 posted on 09/19/2011 9:58:19 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
White House Science Czar Says He Would Use MANIPULATE ‘Free Market’ to ‘De-Develop the United States’

Seems everything already going to play Mr. "Science" Czar. Does anyone see the irony in his stated goal? By a science czar?

12 posted on 09/19/2011 9:58:32 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Yes Holdren and a lot of the czars are a bunch of sickies. We need a day of reckoning for them in the not to near future.


13 posted on 09/19/2011 9:59:35 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
The 'free' market has not existed for decades.

When the government attempts to control nearly every aspect of the economy, it is anything but free nor does it resemble authentic capitalism.

14 posted on 09/19/2011 10:00:17 AM PDT by JOAT
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Holdren is a Neo-Eco-Luddite Collectivist Hypocrite piece of Inhuman Trash.

Think that sums him up quite nicely.


15 posted on 09/19/2011 10:01:25 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
he would use the “free market economy” to implement the “massive campaign” he advocated along with Population Bomb author Paul Ehrlich to “de-develop the United States.”

And how, exactly, would this help the poor and others in need? What about the Children? The elderly?

Obviously, the obama Regime hates the poor, children and the elderly, the most defenseless among us.

16 posted on 09/19/2011 10:01:58 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: arkady_renko

The first thing we need to do is “de-develop” them with extreme prejudice.


17 posted on 09/19/2011 10:02:38 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: mtrott

“OK, Mr. Holdren, send me a picture of your log cabin sans electric service, your bicycle you use for your primary mode of transportation, provide proof you have no cell phone, do not fly in any air craft, have no investments in any industrial companies, and then we can talk.”

Well said.

I second that.


18 posted on 09/19/2011 10:09:52 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; golux; tubebender; Fractal Trader; Genesis defender; 4horses+amule; Carlucci; ...
 




John Holdren,
Climate Specialist Susperstitionist

19 posted on 09/19/2011 10:17:59 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
To people like Holdren, "de-develop" means eliminate suburban sprawl and push everyone back into massive urban centers.

People like Holdren believe that families who own single-family homes are using "more than their fair share" of the surface footprint, and would prefer to see many families stacked into the same square footage.

-PJ

20 posted on 09/19/2011 10:23:47 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

These Leftist atheists and DESTROYING AMerica!! Obama MUST be defeated!!!


21 posted on 09/19/2011 10:25:37 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

These Leftist atheists and DESTROYING AMerica!! Obama MUST be defeated!!!


22 posted on 09/19/2011 10:25:37 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Yep. Agenda 21.


23 posted on 09/19/2011 10:26:05 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Attaaaack Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatch!!!!! XD)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Holdren is doctor Floyd Ferris. He hates humanity and wishes people to return to the hand-plow. And like the Nazis, he would sanction mass extermination for “greater good”.


24 posted on 09/19/2011 10:31:43 AM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: steelyourfaith

If we didn’t know before, now it has become painfully obvious that Obama’s agenda has always been to destroy the American economy, and the American way of life. After all, this Czar wrote this in 1973!!!

Science and technology be used to DE-DEVELOP the United States???!!!

WTF Win the Future-—NOT


25 posted on 09/19/2011 10:34:27 AM PDT by matchgirl ("He made it worse")
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To: Clock King

The whole regime has played out like a prequel to ‘Atlas Shrugged’.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Obama’s attacks on Producers drives many of them to effectively ‘go Gault’ (relocate themselves and possibly businesses to less antagonistic soil).


26 posted on 09/19/2011 10:39:45 AM PDT by Made In The USA (This post may be recorded for quality purposes.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

If he could get a truly “Free market” to De-develop I say
go for it.

All he would need to do is have a large majority of the population agree with him. It also cause a need to put a stop to all immigration. Only a developed country can take in large amounts of unskilled people. Most government social programs would need to stop. The less development you have the less income you have above what you need to live on. We could all live in fly over country. Work in the fields in the hot sun all day.

Maybe he hasn’t thought this though thoroughly. I though think many liberal would like it in flyover country.


27 posted on 09/19/2011 10:42:45 AM PDT by ThomasThomas ( Congressmen should wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers, so we can identify their corporate sponsors.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

30 million....yep folks that’s how many people they, the Democrats, want in the world. We have what, 300 million in this country. What do they want to do with the other 270 million people in this country? “Naw....that can’t be....they don’t really want to kill 270 million people in the US.” No, THEY don’t want to kill 270 million Americans...they want doctors and abortionists and federal law enforcement to do it. They also think that freezing people and starving them is a quite humane way of euthanizing our population. That’s why they don’t want an armed citizenry. Yes, they really are that stupid and cruel.


29 posted on 09/19/2011 11:06:19 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: ThomasThomas
The less development you have the less income you have above what you need to live on. We could all live in fly over country. Work in the fields in the hot sun all day.

If you de-develop you will have less machinery and fertilizer, so you will need many more acres of land to produce the same amount of food. A lot of the less productive former farmland which has been allowed to return to the wild will have to be cleared and plowed (horse or oxen only) again.

30 posted on 09/19/2011 11:08:18 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Compare "Delay is preferable to error" - Thomas Jefferson // "Pass this bill now!" - Barack Obama)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

There is a Grand Canyon in America’s Southwest, into which these elitists are free to march, and lead this “depopulation” by example.


31 posted on 09/19/2011 11:11:48 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
These are the kind of people who view humans as parasites who are destroying the planet.
They are truly scary.
32 posted on 09/19/2011 11:14:15 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Yep. Here’s a good example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsLOcZQheoE&feature=player_embedded


33 posted on 09/19/2011 11:18:06 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Attaaaack Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatch!!!!! XD)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Well, the commies certainly are trying to hide anything any more. This is about the 4th thread I've read this morning that various bambi and his lackeys have been so brazen.

If this isn't a huge issue for the Republican nominee to run on, I don't know what else is. It addresses everything from their job-killing bills, to stated re-distribution of income, to stated lowering our stand-of-living, to reducing our military power and on and on.

Traditional Values OF Freedom To Guide Your Own Destiny; or Socialist Control Of Your Life From Cradle to Grave.

34 posted on 09/19/2011 11:24:45 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (Obamanists think they can make socialism work this time. See ya later, Europe.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Traitors ALL.

LLS


35 posted on 09/19/2011 11:31:20 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Is the person that you support a Crony Capitalist... A.K.A. CRAPITALIST?)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

By “free market” he means tax the Hell out of anything he doesn’t like.


36 posted on 09/19/2011 11:32:38 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: CodeToad

“Not even Peanuthead Carter was this bad.”

Agreed, because he wasn’t DELIBERATELY trying to destroy this country.


37 posted on 09/19/2011 11:44:51 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
De-develop America? What exactly does that mean?
Let's see:

Just what is this idiot "Czar" proposing to do to America and it's people?

38 posted on 09/19/2011 12:13:26 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

There are some traitors that ought to be strung up with natural fiber rope.


39 posted on 09/19/2011 12:25:20 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I’m sure most Americans would “love” to go back to living like their grandparents and great grandparents did 100 years ago. Few people had cars, electric appliances beyond light bulbs were minimal, people mowed their yards with push mowers and walked to work... just ideal for the eco-concious. However life expectancy was about 60, but that’s OK as there won’t be such a burden on the healthcare system and Social Security.


40 posted on 09/19/2011 2:22:01 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Holdren deals with issues ranging from global warming to health care.

They make it sound like he's really really important.

Where do I get my job like this.....?

.....No responsibility

.....Big title

.....Answer to nobody

.....Good pay

.....Stupidity is no hindrance

41 posted on 09/19/2011 5:39:53 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Smart Grid is Stupid)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Remember this name: Steve Spinner He's the guy who 'decided' which 'green' companies got what 'loans.' http://trevorloudon.com/2011/09/smug-shot-of-the-week/
42 posted on 09/19/2011 6:36:40 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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“John Holdren, Obama’s Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet

Book he authored in 1977 advocates for extreme totalitarian measures to control the population”

http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/

“Obama may fire pollution particles into stratosphere to deflect sun’s heat in desperate bid to tackle global warming”
By David Gardner

Last updated at 3:00 PM on 9th April 2009

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1168637/Obama-pollution-particles-stratosphere-deflect-suns-heat-desperate-bid-tackle-global-warming.html#ixzz1YS7J2Nj4http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1168637/Obama-pollution-particles-stratosphere-deflect-suns-heat-desperate-bid-tackle-global-warming.html


43 posted on 09/19/2011 6:41:54 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; Black Agnes

“We just need to chop up a lot of nasty filthy disgusting humans. Except for us liberal demi-gods, of course. Someone must bear the burden of leadership.”


44 posted on 09/19/2011 8:07:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

*shudder*


45 posted on 09/19/2011 8:15:01 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Attaaaack Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatch!!!!! XD)
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