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Roger Ailes and Nicole Wallace

Posted on 10/09/2011 5:13:55 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative

I have been thinking about the past week and trying to connect dots and making sense of the Palin situation.

Two stories that broke the night before she said she wasn't going to run really stick in my mind.

Nicole Wallace told TIME that Sarah Palin was the inspiration for a female VP candidate who was crazy and mentally ill.

Roger Ailes came out and said that the only reason he hired Palin is because she is hot and got ratings.

Both stories were equally disgusting. My question to all of my good FReinds out there is this. Do you think these two stories were a factor in Governor Palin deciding not to run ?

And how big of a factor was Joe McGinness ?


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KEYWORDS: foxtv; nicolewallace; nicollewallace; palin; rogerailes; vanity; vichyrepublicans
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To: hinckley buzzard

“I think you need to stop obsessing ...”

Wrong. We on this board need to carefully analyze all significant political events.

Maybe you need to quit obsessing about other peoples’ obsessing. Please do that. Actually, you can say anything you like on this board.


21 posted on 10/09/2011 5:40:34 PM PDT by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Roger Ailes came out and said that the only reason he hired Palin is because she is hot and got ratings.

I don't know if I qualify as one of your good friends, but what other reason is there to put someone on the air? If they don't pull in ratings, they get canned. Ailes understands this, the other two idiot cable networks don't.

For my part, I've always loved Palin and never really considered her "hot". I just love her conviction and style. She does take great care of herself and has a nice disposition. That does make her hot.

22 posted on 10/09/2011 5:43:57 PM PDT by MovementConservative (Go Mariners! 2012!)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

The Palin candidacy was derailed last summer when the Romney/RINO/Establishment GOP cabal put Bachman up and gave her sufficient media exposure to dampen Palin’s buzz that was peaking about that same time.

I cite as evidence the fact that Bachman is nowhere to be found, now that Palin isn’t running. She’s not needed any more. Whether Bachman was a party to the plan, I do not know, but I suspect she was.

This technique was effectively used in 2008 by the McCain forces who tasked Fred Thompson with the job of keeping us conservatives occupied so as to not coalesce early around a candidate. You’ll recall how he never campaigned that hard, and once McCain became the likely nominee, he withdrew from the race.

That’s my theory and I’m sticking to it.


23 posted on 10/09/2011 5:44:47 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Nobody “told” Sarah what to do. In case no one noticed, Sarah doesn’t take orders well, nor march to the beat of someone elses drum.

I hadn’t heard that Roger Ailes said this. Would you cite the credible source that quotes him please? (NOTE: I said CREDIBLE, not LEFTIST)

To give Joe McGinnis’ book ANY credibility — that “one of the things he said” must have been true, is ludicrous. Even all the major LEFTIST organs have taken him down for the tripe he published.

Nicole Wallace, like so many others, has a name to be made, wants to self-promote, and knows she can do it by taking a shot at Sarah. That’s a very popular sport in “pundit-world” these days, and has been for 3 years. Did you read Kathleen Parker’s latest column this weekend re: Sarah? Yeah. Kathleen Parker is a witch, too.

The insinuation that Sarah was/is “mentally ill” is not only disgusting, it presumes that both the Media and the McCain Machine were COMPLETELY clueless and MISSED that little detail prior to her selection as VP nominee in 2008? That they didn’t find it until just NOW in 2011? Gimme a break! Had NOTHING to do with Sarah’s decision.

Sarah has made her decision after much prayer and talking with her family. I am very sad, but I respect her decision. She will have a future role in national leadership, I believe, but now is not the time. I think her decision actually clarifies just where this country really is. We are worse off than we even appear right now. And I’m not sure any candidate can pull us back from the precipice we are accelerating toward. Perhaps we have to go over that cliff and crash — and we’ll be hard-pressed to save much more than our families for a while, before we can start thinking about our States or the nation again....Maybe Sarah intuitively gets that. Something to consider.


24 posted on 10/09/2011 5:53:56 PM PDT by patriot preacher
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To: McGavin999

that’s the way the pubie party works.


25 posted on 10/09/2011 5:54:23 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: abb

I am inclined to agree somewhat with your theory. I also think Bachmann and Santorum have been carrying water for Mitt to try and eliminate Perry, hence the constant attacks. Now he is down, they have slacked off. However, Cain has been attacking him for likely the same reason. I will be interested in seeing what occurs on Tuesday night at the next so called debate. Depends on who the moderators are.


26 posted on 10/09/2011 6:05:25 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
"I am not obsessing, im just trying to figure it out. We don’t what events really had an impact and what did not."

Sarah Palin doesn't just function for Sarah Palin. She functions for God, her family, her country & at the bottom of the list, herself.

Isn't that what we all loved about Sarah Palin? Her honesty? Her love of country? Putting her country first, even though she had to walk through the firing squads of the liberal media, democrats & obama supporters?

And you don't believe in her judgement now because you don't understand it?

She said she thinks she can do more for her country if she doesn't run for president. Well, maybe, just maybe one of our hopeful candidates has asked her to think about being their VP? We don't know.

Or maybe she is just telling it like it is. That she feels she can do more for her country if she is free to get behind other candidates. Help more conservatives get elected to congress and the senate to make sure that we can turn this country back from the brink of being turned into a socialist nation.

It's her choice of one elected (herself) or many elected by her helping them. A very unselfish act by a God loving Country loving woman with the heart of a hero. IMHO

27 posted on 10/09/2011 6:18:40 PM PDT by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: GloriaJane

What you say is true, but all her great speeches and exquisite executive skills will be going for naught. You can’t changa America without the power to do so. Bob


28 posted on 10/09/2011 6:27:04 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Was she forced into her MSM job by Ailes? How often was she working there? Was she a regularly scheduled host or just an occasional contributor?


29 posted on 10/09/2011 6:30:30 PM PDT by posterchild (I'm old enough to remember when journalists bothered to look things up on wikipedia.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

The Aug. 15 announcement of “Defend the Republic,” a paying gig with Glen Beck was announced was the final, big, red flag for me. It was after Iowa’s Undefeated premiere and scheduled for October.

I just thought to myself she’s not running and it irked me a bit. It’s the first time I though she’s yanking chains and she should stop it if she’s not serious about this run. It was the topper to the Fox/Ailes meeting, trademarks and Bristol’s book.

Hoped I was wrong.


30 posted on 10/09/2011 6:30:59 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I think that it was 100% her daughters’ fear for her life that caused her no to run, and 0% extraneous criticisms by the likes of creeps such as Wallace and Ailes.
I HAVE ONE BIG QUESTION THOUGH: Can anyone name even *one* thing that Sarah is “free” to say today that she could not have said as an active candidate? I can’t think of anything. Bob


31 posted on 10/09/2011 6:31:16 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
My opinion is that you've got to leave the "Vanity-A-Day" Club.

Either keep your musings to yourself or find an existing thread - they're here....24/7.

Your thoughts really aren't all that important.

32 posted on 10/09/2011 6:44:04 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Obama Voters: Jose Baez wants YOU for his next jury pool.......)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I fully believe she had tentatively planned to run, but when she started getting just as much crap from her own ‘supposed’ allies (Fox News and the GOP establishment), it became pretty obvious there was no way going forward. The final attacks on her family were just the final straw.

It’s like she was getting a bayonet in the front from the typical rabid Dem opposition, she was getting daggers in the back from the GOP establishment, and the scum in the media was tossing a noose around her neck with lies and smears every waking moment. As huge a political talent as she is, this was just an impossible situation to advance from. You can’t buck reality.

But she’ll keep fighting, I’m sure of that. It will just have to continue to be in the guerilla/asymetrical warfare vein. Might ultimately be far, far more effective this way, as opposed to have just tossed herself into the suicide mission of the presidential race.


33 posted on 10/09/2011 6:49:25 PM PDT by greene66
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

The main “disappointment” I had with Sarah Palin’s throwing in the towel was from a spiritual connection. I believe our Nation is in deep trouble, and that some of the root causes are SPIRITUAL.

I have felt in my gut that Sarah, like Esther of old, was “brought” onto the National/World stage, from the relatively obscure wilds of Alaska because God had a mission for her. That mission was to spend 8 years in the gargantuan task of taking the helm of the “Ship of State” of these United States, and whip a 180 with it, and get us headed AWAY fron Godless socialism and back in the direction the God-fearing Founders originally had us headed.

If indeed God DID thrust her onto the stage “for such a time as this,” as Uncle Mordecai admonished Esther; then I don’t believe she will ever feel right or complete, or have peace in her soul, no matter what else she accomplishes, even as Jonah when he ran away from what the Lord directed HIM to do.

I do not minimize the awfullness of the vitriol that would have been spewed in her direction, had she persevered; but I am not forgetful of the 91st Psalm; if you are dwelling fully under God’s protection, evil cannot harm you.

Psalm 91:7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.


34 posted on 10/09/2011 6:52:47 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I think her decision to not run for POTUS has more to do with continuing to build a foundation for restoring our Republic. I think she thought:
1. There is a chance that BO could get re-elected through Alinsky tactics and voting fraud, money, the GOP machine and the media.

2. Even if a Republican gets elected, there is a chance it would not have been her. (Due to the same reasons in #1)

3. Her efforts could be more productive by helping to get the right kind of Tea Party Conservatives elected to the House, Senate, Governor, and other state offices. That way, it wouldn’t make as much difference if BO or a RINO is President. Kinda following her same efforts for 2010. Building that strong foundation in the Legislative Branch and the States.

Just like her One Nation bus tour and speeches. She is inspiring people to reconnect with the spirit and history of our founding and what makes America exceptional. Inspiring citizens to get involved in the issues and the fight. That is why she keeps saying ‘you don’t need a title to make a difference’. She is setting the example.
I also doubt she will endorse anyone in the primary. She would rather the individual get involved and do their own research, vetting, and decision-making. That builds a sense of ‘ownership’ and makes for a more lasting restoration.

Well, that is what I’ve come up with anyway....


35 posted on 10/09/2011 7:05:57 PM PDT by GlockLady ( If you're going to make change, you're going to piss people off. And, Sarah doesn't care. - Todd)
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To: ErnBatavia

Most fellow FReepers seem to like me as a person. So you are in a minority. I have a lot of friends here.


36 posted on 10/09/2011 7:11:47 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: alstewartfan

........as my posts reflect, I have been a big supporter of Sarah since her speech at the convention and certainly over the past year or so when it looked like she was going to run. One of my reasons for being so steadfast in my support for her was I felt she had demonstrated sufficient toughness to tuff out running for and therefore being President of the United Stats. In other words she would have been a good investment for my hard earned contributions to her.

With that predicate laid,I’m having a little party at my house Tuesday night and I am going to pose to the ladies present this question,just for fun: “Uh ladies, for the first time in the history of this country, we had a lady running for president and NONE OF YOU supported her (one is my daughter)!”

Now, Sarah threw in the towel even though there can be no doubt she was one tough lady !! So, question to you ladies, MAYBE running for President of the US and actually being president is too tough of an assignment in today’s environment (Gabby Giffords, hateful leftist press, McGinnis, hateful elitist’s party leaders, daughters scared for her life, children need her at home and on and on and on) for a lady??????

Arguably, some of us men think, rightly or wrongly, that if Sarah Palin could not tuff it out that it is likely to be a hundred years before we see another woman even try it..............assuming there is still a republic in a hundred years...................

That ought to really stir em up!


37 posted on 10/09/2011 7:13:07 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Tucker39

>> “The main “disappointment” I had with Sarah Palin’s throwing in the towel was from a spiritual connection. I believe our Nation is in deep trouble, and that some of the root causes are SPIRITUAL.” <<

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How about ALL of the root causes!

The essence of every issue is its spiritual ramifications.


38 posted on 10/09/2011 7:22:01 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Sarah Palin - 2012 !)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
McGuiness was of no consequence. Governor Palin decided not to run because Christie stayed out of the race.

His "I really, really mean it, this time" speech was the day before, also.

39 posted on 10/09/2011 7:25:26 PM PDT by Prospero
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

My take on Mc Cain and Palin is this. Mc Cain had already been extorted or corrupted to lose the election. He picked Palin because he believed she was weak and would add nothing to the ticket. He and his crooked staff were shocked and had to go full tilt to help discredit her and lose the election. Mc Cain’s and his staff’s performances are no less obvious than the actions of the NBA referee’s throwing games a couple of years ago. In hindsight it is very obvious.


40 posted on 10/09/2011 7:33:38 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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