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I was first pleased, then cautious/disappointed by the Oct. 6 testing. I'd still like to have seen them tear things down in the prototype device on Oct. 6, but the bulk of the analysis I've seen since then has been tilting positive.

There is some other important news from Ecatnews.com that I'll post below.

1 posted on 10/10/2011 11:23:42 AM PDT by Liberty1970
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Defkalion has posted a new press release, per Ecatnews.com:

Defkalion has issued a Press Release. Wow!

The technological breakthrough of LENR (or CANR) is no longer speculation. It is a fact that will eventually change the world’s energy problems and its sociopolitical divides through cheap, clean and green energy. The world needs LENR as a new energy source. Although change will not happen over-night, LENR will help reduce CO2 emissions, lower the cost of energy, and provide longevity to our planet’s energy needs.

Defkalion sees its role with responsibility and asks the community at large to continue its support.

Defkalion has:
• Enhanced technology and engineering on Rossi’s invention or similar inventions
• Prepared business models for international expansion
• Established a strong network of global contacts
• Prepared legislative and certification procedures
• Ensured national, regional and international network in politics and business
• Prepared global financing

Defkalion has worked in close partnership with Andrea Rossi for a very long time to prepare a commercially viable and industrially applicable product using his invention. Defkalion invested a lot of money to evolve Rossi’s E-Cat lab prototype into its Hyperion product. Defkalion is now at the stage where its industrial prototype is ready for production.

Defkalion has held direct business discussions with 62 interested companies who visited our offices in Greece and witnessed our work. Small industry and large energy players internationally were all impressed by our progress in technology and engineering. More are still coming. Despite this phenomenal progress, Defkalion never made promises.
Our aim has always been to inform and demonstrate to public our progress when the final product is ready for use, thereby avoiding any speculations.

Today, Hyperion engineering has completed version 7. We were surprised to see our old designs used in public testing. We were confused why our old designs were implemented wrongly, as well as witnessing insufficient use of instruments and testing protocols. We also identified confidential (yet shown in public) special instruments designed in collaboration with Rossi and prepared by Defkalion. These actions have already paved the way for more negative criticism (unworthy) against the inventor, which do not give credibility to his important work.

The plethora of positive and negative comments is not helpful, as pointed out recently on the Vortex mail archive:
(http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@es … 52357.html).

Defkalion fully supports and endorses this technology. Our mission is to introduce this technology on a global scale, responsibly. To date, we have self-financed all R&D and business development phases without asking for a single penny from anyone (private or public). We will soon be ready to announce the results of our extensive R&D with Hyperion final products.

Athens, October 10th, 2011
Defkalion GT S.A.


2 posted on 10/10/2011 11:25:10 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (30 yrs. ago we had Steve Jobs, Johnny Cash & Bob Hope.Now we have no jobs, no cash and no hope.)
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To: Liberty1970

Bolgna, Italy—is that a joke? If not, oh the irony.


5 posted on 10/10/2011 11:28:50 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Liberty1970

Nothin` new-

60 years ago we kids used to heat bricks red-hot in our coal furnace in the wintertime, put them by tongs into the cutter`s steel foot boxes to keep our feet warm. When we returned after a 2 hour jaunt through the snow later, we would take out the bricks by tongs and throw them into a large pot of water which would immediately start to boil for a long time.

Duhhhhh!! Nuclear Snow!

Hawaiians also use red-hot stones to cook the pig in the ground for hours. ``Hey! Look!! No power!! But we got lechon!! [Phils]
Duhhhh -
Big Kahuna Nuclear Power.


9 posted on 10/10/2011 11:54:23 AM PDT by bunkerhill7
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12 posted on 10/10/2011 12:05:32 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("If Herman Cain does become President, his Vice President will be known as Co-Cain." -- Laz, 2011)
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To: Liberty1970
As the dust clears and the chatter subsides, and we take a look at the facts pertaining to Andrea Rossi’s October 6th demonstration of the energy catalyzer, data collected indicates that unless Rossi has been able to rig an extremely sophisticated trick

It doesn't have to be sophisticated at all. Some of the biggest and most professional magic tricks are very simple once how they are done is revealed.

16 posted on 10/10/2011 12:25:40 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Liberty1970
even though there is a great deal of heat unaccounted for, especially the water from the condensed steam, which they poured down the drain.

That's called "getting rid of the evidence".

How do we know that it was water he was pouring down the drain. There are other possibilities. For example, Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2) reacts with nickel (among other metals) to produce heat, steam and Oxygen (O2). From what I've read, a 35% solution of Hydrogen Peroxide (commonly available as a sterilizing solution for the food industry) would produce as much energy as Rossi claims to be producing with his device. Has anyone actually tested the liquid being put into the device to prove that it is pure water? Has anyone tested the resulting condensed steam? (Apparently not, if they were pouring it down the drain.)

Maybe Rossi has made the breakthrough of the century. But he is working hard to avoid doing any tests that would eliminate the possibility of fraud. It is appropriate to be very skeptical of Rossi and his e-cat unless/until he allows the system to be testing with proper controls of everything going in to, and coming out of, his device.

18 posted on 10/10/2011 12:32:26 PM PDT by Johnny B.
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