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Short and Succinct Thoughts on Tonight's Debate Part II (Vanity)
October 18, 2011 | Self (Vanity)

Posted on 10/18/2011 7:01:22 PM PDT by katieanna

Greetings Friends, Neighbors and Fellow Citizens!

Come one, come all and give your summary of the debate tonight.

Looking forward to the commentary and I bid you all good evening.

My analysis:

Romney- dishonest and irritating as usual. Will not support. Cain- like a lot; but he means on the job training. No amateur hour. Perry- genuine. He stepped up tonight finally. Executive experience. I support

Santorum- Don't think there's much chance there

Michelle- Shrill, whiney. Five years in congress is not enough experience

Gingrich- Excellent. Can support.

Ron Paul- has got to go. Flat a**ed crazy.


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My analysis:

Romney- dishonest and irritating as usual. Will not support. Cain- like a lot; but he means on the job training. No amateur hour. Perry- genuine. He stepped up tonight finally. Executive experience. I support

Santorum- Don't think there's much chance there

Michelle- Shrill, whiney. Five years in congress is not enough experience

Gingrich- Excellent. Can support.

Ron Paul- has got to go. Flat a**ed crazy.

1 posted on 10/18/2011 7:01:28 PM PDT by katieanna
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To: katieanna
dump the freaking career politicians.

'nuff said.

2 posted on 10/18/2011 7:02:58 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: katieanna

I do not watch debates, because I think they are unfairly overrated, but thanks for the summary.


3 posted on 10/18/2011 7:05:35 PM PDT by jgge
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To: the invisib1e hand

After the irs is abolished, I’ll gladly accept 999.


4 posted on 10/18/2011 7:05:40 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: katieanna

WINNERS (tie):
Herman Cain - bold strong conservative
Newt Gingrich - erudite strong conservative

and the others:
Michele Bachmann - protects Romney
Ron Paul - occasionally conservative, then on Kolob2
Rick Perry - occasionally conservative, generally weak
Mitt Romney - lied repeatedly (eg. sanctuaries, RomneyCARE)
Rick Santorum - took on RomneyCARE
CNN - set up the debate up for Mitt;Romney given extra time


5 posted on 10/18/2011 7:05:58 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: katieanna

Here’s my take on your take:

Romney- Slippery and irritating as usual.

Will support Cain - like a lot; he appears to be honest and a fast learner.

Perry - genuine. Came off OK. Long term pol.

Santorum - Don’t think there’s much chance there

Michelle- Shrill, whiney. Five years in congress is not enough experience.

Gingrich- Excellent. Can support...maybe.

Ron Paul- keeps it interesting. Flat a**ed crazy.


6 posted on 10/18/2011 7:06:06 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: jgge

And thank you for stopping by! I tend to agree they can be over-rated. Blessings.


7 posted on 10/18/2011 7:07:50 PM PDT by katieanna
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To: katieanna

cain took a lot of shots,

but stood his ground.

romney looked petty, went down.

bachmann’s out.

santorum’s petulant kid.

newt, as usual, brilliant.

perry, a couple of good comments, feisty attack on romney.

paulard.


8 posted on 10/18/2011 7:08:10 PM PDT by ken21
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To: SuzyQue

I like your analysis Suzy! Thanks for stopping by :)


9 posted on 10/18/2011 7:10:09 PM PDT by katieanna
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To: katieanna
Newt is head and shoulders above the pack. The more I see of Perry the better Romney looks. And I don't like Romney. The questions favored Ron Paul because they largely avoided his psychotic side. Santorum--forget it. As someone said, back to filling in for fat Bill Bennett on Friday mornings. Bachmann--shrug. Cain--good pair-up with Newt, either way.
10 posted on 10/18/2011 7:12:35 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: katieanna

Romney was Romney. No change. He is what he is and I won’t vote for him.

Cain was pretty good but not great. He’s my #1 at the moment but I recognize that he is inexperienced in campaigning. This doesn’t make me doubt he’d be a good President, but we need for him to continue to improve so if he’s our nominee then he will perform well in the general election.

Perry had his best night yet but still he’s not very good up there. He just doesn’t express himself very well and doesn’t seem to have much to say either. (That is, there are problems both of substance and delivery.)

Santorum is not important and adds little to these events. I like him ok but I’ll be glad when he is out of the way.

Bachmann wants to tell a story every time she speaks. Several times she seemed to never get to her point. She gives me no reason to want to see her up there again.

Gingrich always adds substance but also always seems like a guy who is much better suited as a legislator than a President. He should run for Senate or something.

Ron Paul adds a bit being up there but I wish he got less time.


11 posted on 10/18/2011 7:13:49 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: katieanna
Perry- genuine. He stepped up tonight finally.

Totally agree! He is either getting some really good coaching or the experience is finally kicking in or BOTH!! lol
12 posted on 10/18/2011 7:14:09 PM PDT by lahargis
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To: katieanna
What a crock, it will take perry two days to get willards shoe out of his rear, what a butt kicking. Cain did excellent, newt did well, as did bachmann, santorium only messed up once. Paul is correct on the budget, and spending, misses the boat on the rest. Current standings are the same, Cain is the man in the beat, Willard second, then newt and bachmann. That is what the real non cnn polls will show.
13 posted on 10/18/2011 7:14:15 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: katieanna

Perry reminds me a lot of George W. Bush.


14 posted on 10/18/2011 7:17:22 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: katieanna

Just adding to your already good analysis.


15 posted on 10/18/2011 7:21:26 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: lahargis

He started out Very good and then let Romney off the Hook giving him another chance for More applause Lines by rehashing those Texas versus Mass. employment figures,Romney has that stuff memorized and clobbers Perry whenever he does that, Hit Him where Santorum did He is A flip Flopper and cant be Trusted. Perry in his Opening statement called him a Convienient Conservative and never Mentioned that again. The Democrats have a Campaign ready to go on that very theme to Bury Romney but the other candidates wont do it


16 posted on 10/18/2011 7:25:46 PM PDT by ballplayer
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To: katieanna

Just saw the last half hour or so. Romney was definitely given preferential treatment in the form of more air time.

Perry was ok. Won’t vote for him no matter what so it doesn’t matter.

Bachman did well. Didn’t like her response about cutting aide to Israel.

Gingrich did well.

Cain rocked. Loved his response about aide to Israel.

Paul would be a joke candidate against zero. He just doesn’t have the overall charisma/charm/sanity it takes to be a viable candidate.

Santorum did well. But we all know he will never get the nomination.

As stated above, Romney was given preferential treatment by the moderator, and almost every question was directed to him.

Anderson Cooper was annoying.


17 posted on 10/18/2011 7:28:29 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: katieanna

I am voting for Newt in the NH primary.


18 posted on 10/18/2011 7:29:40 PM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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Perry comes across looking stupid and stubborn and tentative. (Sorry, Perry supporters). Poor command of the English language. Romney fluid, as usual, but one suspects he is just playing conservative. Newt incredible, once again, and makes you want to support him till you remember he sat on the sofa with Pelosi and wanted carbon credits. He is reliably Newt, as he ended it with an attack on Anderson Cooper and his inability to end the bickering and stop all the commmenters from being Perry and Mitt. Newt’s mind can wrap itself around any problem, and talk about it like he is giving the Gettysburg address. If elected, will be one of the great orators in American history. I like and agree with Bachmann’s politics—every point she makes, but am left wondering why she is so low in the polls. Cain—he blew 2 questions—one on negotiating with hostages and I forget the other one (I think it was on the border fence). He needs to continue to think thru every issue. But still, you gotta love him. Santorum is petulent, the kind of guy you would not want to be stranded in an elevator with. Ron Paul was Ron Paul—defender of liberty to the death. A male incarnation of Ayn Rand.


19 posted on 10/18/2011 7:30:44 PM PDT by worriedinoregon
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To: katieanna

lol


20 posted on 10/18/2011 7:32:51 PM PDT by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: katieanna
Sarah certainly agrees with you on your Newt comments. She very solidly remarked on his solution oriented speak. Greta interviewed her as well as Newt tonight.
21 posted on 10/18/2011 7:52:13 PM PDT by Republic (SO-uhbama sought help from romney MA healthcare authors? DUMP ROMNEY, no way will he kill obamacare.)
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To: katieanna

NEWT GINGRICH ... I see a thread in many many replies.

Erudite, cool under fire, adult, brilliant, excellent, smart, smooth, firm, unwavering... all in reference to Newt Gingrich.

Other than sitting with Nancy on globull warming and his wives and failing to impeach Clintoon (Senate does this actually)... what has he done wrong? He is the only candidate that has not yet stepped on his ...

So far, he is the best candidate I can see for hire. He is a CO that needs a very energetic, smart, willing XO to close and act on his ideas because he doesn’t have the time to close them before moving on to something new. He is a good idea man who needs a great helper(s)


22 posted on 10/18/2011 8:17:23 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Newt is mesmerizing in these debates. Love to listen to him. Brilliant on any subject tossed at him. Hope he is close to whoever is nominated.


23 posted on 10/18/2011 8:24:21 PM PDT by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: katieanna

There are no winners and if this debate frenzy keep up, a Republican win in November becomes less likely. People are tuning the candidates out...they are beginning to wear thin and opening themselves to ridicule. The debates have become a glossy circular firing squad. . I suspect Zero is starting to breath a sigh of relief. Collectively, they should agree to one or two more debates and can it.


24 posted on 10/18/2011 8:26:18 PM PDT by yetidog
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To: varina davis

Likewise. Gingrich is the over achieving underdog you can really root for. Probably not a prayer of a chance. I’m not swept away by him or anything like that but he actually looks Presidential to me. He stands out as well kept and fully assembled for the combat.

I wonder if Gingrich has the energy or the fire in his belly to be a great candidate?

I’m really afraid it is Cain in the end and pray it is not Romney... he is a fake pretty boy. Disingenuous to the core.

Cain needs better handlers and needs to listen more and talk less. He isn’t as smart as he thinks he is. Cain would work hard to be a good candidate but I wonder if his stamina will hold out?

Perry is struggling, he is monodimensional... we created a lot of jobs in Texas... rather be lucky than smart anytime. I don’t think he is a terrible candidate just not a great one and I don’t think he can win against obastard.

Bachman is light weight and shrill but a patriot. Can’t win.

Santorum ... just angry and a little immature. Can’t win.

Paul is the perennial fruit cake. I don’t know why he keeps running or how he gets money. Can’t win.


25 posted on 10/18/2011 8:37:19 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: yetidog

“Collectively, they should agree to one or two more debates and can it.”

I second that.


26 posted on 10/18/2011 8:37:23 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: katieanna

The media overrates the debates because the media controls them.

Now that the media is out of the closet socialist, the GOP needs to change to professional debaters asking questions and leave the media out. They can broadcast on youtube and other spots on the net. Even Fox makes a bozo show out of the Republican debates.


27 posted on 10/18/2011 8:42:47 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Reddy

Anderson Cooper was annoying.


Running the debate, he had a lot to do with the outcome. Why does the GOP let gay communists run their debates?


28 posted on 10/18/2011 8:44:50 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: hinckley buzzard

It looks to be about time to take stock of exactly what the “baggage” that Newt carries amounts to. He endorsed global warming (so perhaps he knows better now). He has a problem with adultery (Hopefully he’s too old to stray now). He supported Scuzzafaza (can you spell it)? I feel pretty sure he regrets that endorsement. Anything else? Most of us are pretty certain that he is basically a good conservative. He knows history and how to avoid repeating it. He knows the ropes in D.C., and he can probably get Sarah’s endorsement. He looks to me like the only viable candidate we have. I think I could vote for him if Sarah endorsed him. I won’t be voting for any of the others.


29 posted on 10/18/2011 8:48:10 PM PDT by WVNan (!)
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To: lahargis; katieanna

‘Perry - genuine.’

Saw him in person a few weeks ago.
He addressed a crowd of about 400.
‘Genuine’ was my first impression.
Debate not his forum - talking to us was different.

Not actively supporting anyone yet, but tend toward Cain. Had been waiting for Sarah.

Have always liked Gingrich. Also saw him in person a few years ago and told him this family would have supported him had he run in 2008. . . so blame us for his running this time!
Always enjoy waiting to hear what he has to say, and how he says it! Never disappoints.
Nourishment For The Ears.
The vision of him sitting with N. Pelousy, is
f-a-d-i-n-g . . . (I hated that combination, too. Was shocked! But when you think of it, it’s sort of hilarious, those 2 on the same couch. . .)

Santorum - watched him ‘up and come’ over the years, thought he was doing well, but now he seems/sounds totally desparate.

An aside - in this day and age, believe many vote for someone who looks good on TV. It’s been this way for years.
Besides other negatives, Ron Paul, appears almost sickly - probably age, and bad posture. Wouldn’t LOOK strong up against some world leaders. Even the squirt of Iran looks healthier.

Nothing new, but to a degree, charisma counts.


30 posted on 10/18/2011 8:51:48 PM PDT by USARightSide ( * SUPPORTING OUR TROOPS * Click on my screen name)
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To: katieanna

I am supporting Cain because he has lot of common sense, business sense, and is a dependable conservative. Perry is OK but hurt by the tuition break to illegals meme and the heartless comment. Newt has the best intellect and knowledge of congress.

A Cain-Newt ticket would energize voters for sure.


31 posted on 10/18/2011 8:56:49 PM PDT by federal__reserve (Economy on life support needs a revolutionary tax plan, not fiddle around the edges!)
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To: federal__reserve

Agreed. Would love to see the two of them combining talents to guide US. With Cain setting the direction and Newt navigating, I would be very happy. If Newt is not on the ticket, any nominee being elected and not making Newt Secretary of State would make a huge mistake. Other nominees not making the ticket would do well to accept Cabinet posts as well. Egos must be set aside and the nominees unit to save and guide America. Do a good job and advance on the ticket in the future.


32 posted on 10/19/2011 7:29:38 AM PDT by Boomer One
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