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Does Cain have Palin's Conservative Credentials?(Vanity)
Randy | Randy Larsen

Posted on 10/25/2011 9:01:39 PM PDT by Randy Larsen

This "Cain Train" took off right after Sarah Palin decided she would not run for the Republican nomination for president.

Since then I've noticed that Herman Cain fears no one to the right of him and seems to cherish the fight with those he considers to be to his left(politically speaking).

Do you think that Herman Cain is the (CAIN+PALIN) express because of his conservative values?

Can Herman Cain win if Palin won't endorse a candidate in the primaries?

Do you believe Herman Cain has proven to be equal or better than Palin as a conservative?

Finally, Why as Herman Cain risen so fast while Perry has plunged in the polls?


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To: Sonny M

Well stated!


21 posted on 10/26/2011 6:01:44 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Sonny M
We assume he has our values, because he says he does, and there is no record that can contradict it, but there is also no record to verify it, and he has never had to be tested on how committed he is to those values.

Except for the record of two interviews. I discount the CNN/Morgan interview because you can sense the antagonism in Morgan, even in a transcript, and he did try to twist the question into another issue. But the Stossel and MacCallum interviews demonstrate that Cain is either ignorant of the clear semantics of decades of discussion of the topic, or he's fence-straddling and pandering, or in the clinches some of his own contradictions slip through, or they're his true feelings. Any way you slice that pie, I don't care for it.

And lest anyone say I am passing on "smears" -- here are the interviews for your own eyes and ears to judge:

Stossel interview discussed here, with transcript: http://theiowarepublican.com/2011/vander-plaats-on-cain’s-abortion-stance-“sounds-like-john-kerry-in-2004”/

MacCallum interview here: http://www.lifenews.com/2011/10/21/herman-cain-in-new-interview-abortion-should-not-be-legal/

22 posted on 10/26/2011 6:34:10 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: sklar
“Palin is a once-in-a-generation Leader. She is the Real Deal, the Ronald Reagan of our Generation.”

Reagan was a two-term governor of our most populous state, and had been a well-known spokesman for conservative positions on a wide range of issues (both domestic and foreign) for many years before he entered electoral politics. Reagan had a crystal-clear vision for the US at home and in the world, and devoted forty years of his life to seeing that that vision materialized.

Palin was a half-term governor of one of our least-populous states, who left office when the going got tough. She doesn't have the executive experience, single-minded determination, and political instincts that Ronald Reagan possessed when he first ran for the Republican nomination in 1976. As much as I liked and campaigned for her in 2008, while holding my nose for the top of the ticket, she has been a terrible disappointment since then.

23 posted on 10/26/2011 6:34:42 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: iowamark

Wouldn’t surprise me in the least if Palin endorsed the nominee, even if it’s Romney. She’s already said, ABO.


24 posted on 10/26/2011 6:36:19 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: Randy Larsen

Does Palin have Palin’s conservative credentials?


25 posted on 10/26/2011 6:48:53 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Springfield Reformer
Being conservative is not only possible outside of holding political office, it is the statistical norm. Cain dropped a million of his own dollars into the promotion of prolife values. And he has lived his life according to the principles of meritocracy, not gimme-ocracy. That is the root of fiscal conservatism. The only area in which he is truly untested, IMHO, is foreign policy. But inasmuch as his life has been lived, on the record, as one who genuinely treasures his country, that puts him light years ahead of the current occupant of the WH.

I'm not doubting his patriotism, and I'll be more then glad to say, he is a true American success story. However, how has his views on gays been tested ? How have his views on on environmental versus jobs been tested ? How have any of his views been tested ?

On abortion, if I give him the benefit of the doubt, he misspoke badly and sounded like he was trying to impersonate Mario Cuomo, on muslims, he backtracked and apologized, what if he does this same thing, while he is in office with regulations ? As for the root of fiscal conservatism, I'm sorry, but the fact that he was the senior economic advisor for Bob Doles presidential campaign, really hurts his case, along with having been chairman of the board for the KC Federal Reserve. I also don't like how he answers questions on it, and I hate his justification of TARP.

Its funny, but yes, he is light years ahead of the current occupant in the white house, but thats such a low standard, that, it actually is unfair to Mr. Cain, he should not be compared to Obama, he needs to be compared to other conservatives, which is impossible, because they h ave records where push has come to shove, and he doesn't.

26 posted on 10/26/2011 7:18:19 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Soothesayer9

Have you seen the videos of her debating for the AK guv race?

She was formidable.


27 posted on 10/26/2011 7:28:14 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Randy Larsen

To suggest that Cain was ...as good or better than Palin????

OUTRAGEOUS


28 posted on 10/26/2011 8:27:51 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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To: Randy Larsen

To suggest that Cain was ...as good or better than Palin????

OUTRAGEOUS


29 posted on 10/26/2011 8:28:40 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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To: riverdawg

AND YOU SUCK!


30 posted on 10/26/2011 8:30:32 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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To: Springfield Reformer

“the current occupant of the WH.” After seeing their best I have this gut feeling that Mr. Cain may go tribal and get sucked in by the evil entitlement brothers.


31 posted on 10/26/2011 9:09:17 AM PDT by mcshot (Neither handsome nor handy but took an oath and will vote to save our Country.)
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To: Randy Larsen

Cain’s ascendency began after his win in the Florida Straw Poll which was probably a month before Palin announced that she was not running but if it makes you feel better to think these things by all means continue.


32 posted on 10/26/2011 10:06:34 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Get ready for an aberration of epic proportions! - Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Florida Straw Poll was on September 25th. Palin’s announcement was on October 5th.

Pretty clear from the RCP polls that Perry’s fall started with Florida but Cain didn’t overtake Romney until after Palin’s announcement.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html#polls


33 posted on 10/26/2011 10:20:39 AM PDT by LimberJim
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To: Friendofgeorge
“AND YOU SUCK!”

There is no reason for you to shout or to make a personal attack, which (in case you forgot) is against FR policy.

It simply isn't credible to compare her to Ronald Reagan. It does a disservice to her genuine accomplishments.

34 posted on 10/26/2011 10:40:47 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Randy Larsen

I was hoping for a Palin/Cain ticket.


35 posted on 10/26/2011 11:30:32 AM PDT by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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To: OriginalChristian

Me too.

I’m still PO’ed over her letting the conservatives down in our time of greatest need!


36 posted on 10/26/2011 1:37:08 PM PDT by Randy Larsen
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To: riverdawg
Palin was a half-term governor of one of our least-populous states

Then I assume you do not support no-term-anything Herman Cain.

37 posted on 10/26/2011 2:56:34 PM PDT by sklar
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To: TwoSwords
You got that right! There's Palin, and then there are pale shadows of actual greatness aspiring to pinnacles they'll never see, but which are such familiar ground to Sarah.

So very sad.

38 posted on 10/26/2011 3:26:17 PM PDT by Gargantua (Sarah Palin for Emperor of Earth!)
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To: Randy Larsen

New Site: Reagan-Palin Conservatives for Newt Gingrich, http://t.co/oJAmLh9a

As a Reagan-Palin conservative, I cannot justify supporting any of the others.

Newter Obama!
Newter the Progressive Movement!


39 posted on 10/26/2011 5:21:52 PM PDT by GlockLady ( Sarah Palin is a walking middle finger to the BosNYWash elite.)
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To: OriginalChristian

I was hoping for a Palin/West ticket. I am now hoping for a Newt/Palin ticket. [Only because she will not run for the top of the ticket this time around.]


40 posted on 10/26/2011 5:28:00 PM PDT by GlockLady (Newter Obama! Newter the Progressive Movement!)
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